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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 8
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Brake booster removal/install
OK, removed master cylinder, disconnected booster from brake pedal, removed 4 nuts holding booster in place from inside cabin, but when I tried to get it out of the engine bay, the intake manifolds in the way. I search the archives and found others with the same issue but no one answered the question, "Does the manifold need to be removed to remove the brake booster?" Could someone whose done this repair please advise.
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 212
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While the FSM doesn't say so, the Haynes manual says to remove the clevis from the back of the brake booster inside the truck....
"...Locate the pushrod clevis connecting the booster to the brake pedal. It's accessible from inside the vehicle, under the dashboard. Remove the clevis pin retaining clip with pliers. Holding the clevis with pliers, loosen the locknut with a wrench. Note: It isn't necessary to remove the clevis, unless the new booster unit isn't equipped with one. Remove the clevis pin Disconnect the hose from the brake booster. Be careful not to damege the hose when removing it from the booster fitting. Remove the four nuts and washers holding the brake booster to the firewall Slide the booster straight out from the firewall until the studs clear the holes." I don't know if this helps or not, never done this job on this truck, but maybe this will provide some insight. But for the love of God, don't start trying to remove the intake !!!! Keep the Cruiser Faith, R. __________________ Robert Callaway '03 LX470 42k mi. - The Smooth Ride '94 FZJ80 207k mi. - Bone Stock and Locked, less the OE roof rack, add a D31M '85 FJ60 - Sold |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Apr 2005
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__________________ Robert Callaway '03 LX470 42k mi. - The Smooth Ride '94 FZJ80 207k mi. - Bone Stock and Locked, less the OE roof rack, add a D31M '85 FJ60 - Sold |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: May 2008
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Dallas, TX
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You might want to remove the clevis from the pushrod on the back of the booster to gain some "wiggle room" coming out of the firewall.
__________________ Robert Callaway '03 LX470 42k mi. - The Smooth Ride '94 FZJ80 207k mi. - Bone Stock and Locked, less the OE roof rack, add a D31M '85 FJ60 - Sold |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 12
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I just did this about 2 months ago. I had searched everywhere trying to figure out how to remove it when I was taking one off my wrecked '93 with no luck on how to get it out. I ended up buying one from Napa for about $250 took it home and was determined to get it changed out. Unbolted the booster, master cylinder ( I left the brake lines attached and carefully moved it out of the way ), and clevis from the pedal then removed both motor mount bolts ( the single bolt under the main mount on both sides ) used an engine hoist to lift it up off the mounts a few inches had my father-in-law push the motor to the passenger side and with a little wiggling it came right out. The biggest pain was putting it back in as Napa rebuilt it and put the front cover on upside down ( the pushrod for the pedal is not centered in the 4 bolt pattern that goes in the firewall ) so my vacume hose is on the bottom rather than the top. No adjustments were needed on the master cylinder pushrod. I have gotten so much help and tricks on mud I am glad to give something back. Sorry for not putting this write-up out sooner, Ihave been pretty busy. Hope this helps you and many others, its's the least I can give back. BTW mine had about 250K miles on it when it gradually quit helping me stop this overengineered beast.
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Panamá
Posts: 9,147
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Luck I do it in my HDJ-80 with no problems .. no really intereference with the intake in my 1HD-T ( no much contribution in this post ..
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: May 2008
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UPDATE. I was wrong. I didn't have the same problem as GPOCruiser. My unit was assembled properly Last edited by thuffman; 06-24-08 at 05:48 PM. |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 8
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Is there a trick getting it thru firewall?
I've attempted at least five times to get this thing thru the firewall without success. Is there some trick I'm missing? All the holes inside the engine line up but I can't get the 4 mounting screws thru so I can bolt the booster down. HELP!!
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 12
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So did you get it installed, or are you still having problems? I also had to reuse the rubber grommet and check valve from my old booster, the rebuilt one was a little loose and the pedal didn't feel right. After I changed it to the tighter fitting origional the pedal felt alot better, it was leaking vacume pressure. The grommet just pulls out and is not attached to anything inside the booster.
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 8
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Can't get it thru the firewall
GPO, I did get it kinda installed. What I'm having a major problem with is getting the 4 bolts to line up thru the firewall. There appears to be a piece between the wall inside the engine and the one inside the compartment. Each time I get the screws of the booster thru the holes in the engine area I can never get them thru into the compartment. I've tried putting a large philips screw driver thru one hole to hold whatever is getting misaligned in place with no success. With the booster out, however, I can easily push the screwdriver thru each hole individually without problem. It's only when I attempt to install the booster "something" gets skewed - HELP!
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2006
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I'm at work and didn't drive the cruiser so I can' see what might get in the way. You can look in the floorboard area to see what is misaligned inside once you get it in the holes. It may be the pedal assembly, if there are other bolts that hold the pedal assembly loosen them and wiggle it in, unless the assembly is welded in, but I beleive it is bolted in. I've had Toyotas since I was 16 and I'm 35 now and I never let anyone work on them but me. Good luck, I'll keep checking back and will look at the cruiser when I get home.
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: May 2008
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GOT IT!
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Atlanta
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Thanks __________________ 97 40th 240K Stock 98 Boxster 67K (Wifes)
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Atlanta
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Update: I adjusted the play in the rod about 10 times. The peddle kept bottoming out before I had full braking. I finnaly went so far the brakes were dragging and I still did not have full braking. I exchanged the booster for another one and brakes work perfectly. Be carful with rebuilt boosters. Hope I have not screwed up the new rotors I installed over the winter.
__________________ 97 40th 240K Stock 98 Boxster 67K (Wifes)
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 10
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First, thanks to all who've posted on this thread. You've provided invaluable info on the R/R of the brake booster.
And thanks to cdan for the parts. Just wanted to add to the thread that I was able to remove and install the booster w/o moving the engine or removing the manifold. It was a tight fit, but only took about 5 minutes once the MC was out of the way. |
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