F.O.R. Lift -- any one else waiting too?

[Cj80cruiser]

Originally Posted by FJBen

What???

Slee uses OME shocks, but I'm pretty sure they aren't buying OME comp springs and powdercoating them silver.

That's exactly what i've been told. Must have been lied to.

[FJBen]

Originally Posted by Cj80cruiser

That's exactly what i've been told. Must have been lied to.

wow...

[concretejungle]

i would be interested to hear slee's response to that allegation.

[Cj80cruiser]

Originally Posted by concretejungle

i would be interested to hear slee's response to that allegation.

X2...

[sleeoffroad]

We do use OME shocks, and they are supplied as OME. The springs are custom made for us to our specs, as is all the rest of the parts in the kits we sell.

[Cj80cruiser]

Guess that's settled.

[bhmmapping]

Originally Posted by Cj80cruiser

That's exactly what i've been told. Must have been lied to.

just out of curiosity, who told you that?

[Cj80cruiser]

Originally Posted by bhmmapping

just out of curiosity, who told you that?

I'd rather not say since it would bring unwanted attention to this person.

[calstyl2]

Originally Posted by Cj80cruiser

I'd rather not say since it would bring unwanted attention to this person.

Your in Al right.........................

[bhmmapping]

Originally Posted by Cj80cruiser

I'd rather not say since it would bring unwanted attention to this person.

Understood. really I was more curious if it was a vendor who told you that(which would be bad and I wouldn't want to give them any of my business), or if it was just another mud member (which would probably just be a misinformed opinion).

[Cj80cruiser]

Let's just say it was probably just a misinformed opinion.

[Nay]

Originally Posted by landtank

If you guys know what you want how about taking a stab at it your selves. I've had some luck building what I wanted. There is a whole cottage industry out there with professionals working in their basement for extra cash. Times are getting tight and all it takes is some phone calls and a little face to face time and the leads start to flow.

Look for a small spring manufacturer who might be willing to work with you on getting started. Don't go in there talking big numbers because they see pie in the sky dreamers all the time. Go in with a good basic knowledge of what you want and be honest with your situation and have reasonable expectations.

I've done it. It can be frustrating at times and down right disappointing. But then all of a sudden things fall into place and it's pretty damn exciting and rewarding.

So Nay, get some of these guys together, talk about what you want and put something together or at least give it a try.

I've bought custom coils in the past and know the challenges. It would take probably 3-4 iterations unless the spring manufacturer is already familiar with the 80.

For me, since I was involved in the FOR design, it would be an adaptation of that result in terms of the taller coil. Still, the safe bet would be a 1" coil spacer on top of FOR 3.5" with a 10" 7100 or Fox (longer than the FOR bilsteins shocks) spacing travel down another ~1" and therefore bumpstops another 1" to fit 37's with no trimming - shock mounts could be modified to fine tune, 1" wheel spacer's added for the 37's. That's how I'd prototype, and of course if the end result is good then my work is done, because I already have the exact coil features I want.

If I keep it up I'm going to talk my self into 37's when I get new tires next spring. It would be oh so easy, and 37" trxus weigh quite a bit less than 35" Toyos so I'm sure I wouldn't be busting anything .

I won't be putting out a kit, though, just can't add the load with my kids being so young (and so many ), but it sure would be a fun and highly doable project.

[Cj80cruiser]

Nay since you're familiar with the F.O.R. kit, I have 5100 bilsteins from frankie do you know how much lift I need to use these with my adaptors from Frankie?

[Nay]

Originally Posted by Cj80cruiser

Nay since you're familiar with the F.O.R. kit, I have 5100 bilsteins from frankie do you know how much lift I need to use these with my adaptors from Frankie?

Do you have the 5100's that come from the kit? They are a different length than a standard 10" 5100.

If you have the kit shocks, they will be balanced in travel up/down at ~3"-3.5" of lift with the eye adapters. Varying much from this would not be ideal, although OME uses the same shock from no lift to heavy, so take my statement with a grain of salt.

I'd wait to run them until you get the springs, the valving is so soft that you might not like them with a different spring (read: ).

[Cj80cruiser]

Yeah I do have the kit shocks. I thought they would be stiffer not softer. I was wanting to run them with my OME's and possibly a spacer if needed. Judging by your post the spacer will be needed. Guess the softer ride will have to do since getting different shocks won't happen.

[FJBen]

Originally Posted by Nay

If I keep it up I'm going to talk my self into 37's when I get new tires next spring. It would be oh so easy, and 37" trxus weigh quite a bit less than 35" Toyos so I'm sure I wouldn't be busting anything .
.

Per Interco:
35x12.50x16 Trxus = 76lbs 35" OD.....19/32
37x12.50x16 Trxus = 79lbs 37.2" OD.....21/32

Per Toyo:
315x75x16 Toyo = 76lbs 34.9" OD.....21/32
38x14.50x16 Toyo = 99lbs 37.7" OD.....21/32 (couldn't find a 37x16" listed)
37x13.40x17 Toyo = 93lbs 37.0" OD.....21/32 (have to run a 17" rim)

Unless interco is wrong, the 35" Toyo and Trxus weigh the same. They say the 37" only weight 3lbs more per tire which seems a little odd for over a 2" larger tire.

I'm not sure where you were getting that the 37" truxus weighs quite a bit less than the 35.

I really would like to try FOR, but I"m not 100% on the spacers to get a true 4" (which isn't a big deal) I'm more concerned about an overly soft ride. I know Sam is running it, but looking for a bit firmer shock, which is what I'd like as well. My rig is fairly heavy, and isn't getting any lighter. I'm happy with the way it rides on the Slee up front, will probably do the rear Slee 4"

[Walking Eagle]

I have the elusive FOR bumper - custom done w/ my requested stinger. Frankie lost his butt on it, but he stood by the price he origonally gave me - which was WAY WAAAYYYY less than anything else out there. He's a good guy. But dealing with a start up buisness (he's been in other buisness for a while, the 80 series stuff is start up though), and a small buisness is sometimes difficult. He doesn't have 10 guys in the shop building stuff, and he doesn't have much time for spending on mud - unfortunate for him and us.

[cruiser-poor]

I'm sure it's a fine bumper, Heath. I might have had one myself if it had ever made it to production.

I'm not knocking Frankie at all. Everything I've read suggests he's a skilled fabricator and a quality guy too. But I'm wondering -- and I think this is a fair question -- how long are you considered to be in start-up mode with a business or product line? More than two years? And hasn't this kit already been in production before?

It seems to me the 80-series stuff is just a side line for FOR, not the main business, however good the product. Nothing wrong with that, as long as your purchasing timeframe aligns with their production window.

[Beowulf]

Originally Posted by Walking Eagle

I have the elusive FOR bumper - custom done w/ my requested stinger. Frankie lost his butt on it, but he stood by the price he origonally gave me - which was WAY WAAAYYYY less than anything else out there.

This might be a reason for why he lost interest in the 80 market. It would be hard to feed the dogs on deals like this.

Did you offer to cover his labour and materials costs?

-B-

[Walking Eagle]

Originally Posted by Beowulf

This might be a reason for why he lost interest in the 80 market. It would be hard to feed the dogs on deals like this.

Did you offer to cover his labour and materials costs?

-B-

Well, since the center section was one of two prototypes that cost about 1800 each - uhm, no.

[Cj80cruiser]

I just got an email from Frankie. He said, "We have our shit together now new springs are rockin and a guranteed delivery of 10 weeks is done today so its on now ! Bumpers to follow soon..

Frankie,..,,."

[WildHare]

Originally Posted by Cj80cruiser

I just got an email from Frankie. He said, "We have our shit together now new springs are rockin and a guranteed delivery of 10 weeks is done today so its on now ! Bumpers to follow soon..

Frankie,..,,."

So... springs in ~ 2 months, bumpers after that?

If so.... let them come!

-Dan

[AZLX450]

Any updates on when the 3" will be available again?