How to distinguish an FJZ80

mtkreitz · 06-10-08, 10:29 PM

Ok this is probably a newbie question, but I have to ask... How do you determine that an LC is an FJZ80? Can you tell by the VIN, the year, or someother external way? Meaning... if someone out there unknowingly has an FJZ80, how could you tell (without seeing it) if it is an FJ80 or an FJZ80?

If this is obvious, please forgive the dumb question...

chibo · 06-10-08, 10:31 PM

Fj80 = 91/92
Fzj80 = 93+

Trunk Monkey · 06-10-08, 10:33 PM

The way I ID them usually is that the wheels are different (4 kinda double spokes and 15" rim on an FJ, 5 spokes and 16" rim on an FZJ)

Vitesse_6 · 06-10-08, 10:34 PM

Could be a few quick ways, Engine, wheels, IIRC 3rd row seats, VIN should tell, That or the door sticker

Wheels..
FJ80 has dual four spoke, FZJ80 has a 5 spoke
Engines...
FJ80 has the 3FE FZJ80 has the 1FZ
3rd row, Again IIRC..
FJ80 didnt have 3rd row or the brackets on the rear wheel wells FZJ80 has them.
Im sure there are alot of other ways, Just a though

Vitesse_6 · 06-10-08, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey

The way I ID them usually is that the wheels are different (4 kinda double spokes and 15" rim on an FJ, 5 spokes and 16" rim on an FZJ)

I type too slow

Beowulf · 06-10-08, 10:37 PM

As Cory pointed out, the wheels are the easiest way. Next is the flares; they are different (narrower) and a few FJ80s were flareless. Then the tailpipe is on the left side and they are a little bit "taller" than an FZJ80 but that is really hard to tell.

Other than those things, I can't tell an FJ80 from an FZJ80 without opening the bonnet.
-B-

mtkreitz · 06-10-08, 10:40 PM

Thanks a bunch. I did not realize it was that easy. I assumed that 93+ were a combination of FJ and FJZ but that clears it up. One mystery down, a gagillion to go...

Beowulf · 06-10-08, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitesse_6

3rd row, Again IIRC..
FJ80 didnt have 3rd row or the brackets on the rear wheel wells FZJ80 has them.

I believe the 3rd row was an option on all 80-Series; FJ80 and FZJ80. The picture of the FJ80 that Cory posted has 3rd row seats. Maybe it is an early FZJ80 with rear drums and retro-fitted FJ80 wheels but I'd bet it is an FJ80 with 3rd row seats as an option.

FYI, retrofitting 3rd row seats in an 80-series truck that didn't have the option is a major hassle. The cargo area is built differently and the brackets DO NOT bolt in. I am sure someone could do it if they wanted but it is non-trivial.

-B-

Lka1988 · 06-10-08, 10:47 PM

Huh? Some of that is wrong.

The tailpipe on ANY 80 series is on the RIGHT side, and several FJ80's DID come with 3rd row seats, including mine.

91-92 VIN will say "FJ80", frame will also say "FJ80". 91-92 have 4-spoke 15" wheels, 93+ have 5-spoke 16" wheels.

And just for kicks and giggles, 1997's "sombrero" logo is centered on the rear hatch.

Beowulf · 06-10-08, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lka1988

The tailpipe on ANY 80 series is on the RIGHT side, ...

I stand corrected. I knew the exhaust manifolds exit on the left side and I thought the whole exhaust went along the left frame rail out to the rear. I guess it crosses over underneath.

-B-

Lka1988 · 06-10-08, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mtkreitz

I assumed that 93+ were a combination of FJ and FJZ but that clears it up

93-94's are oddballs. Some had semi-floater rear axles with drum brakes. And they all had that funky PAIR junk...

Bear80 · 06-10-08, 10:53 PM

fj80 also had clear windows, fzj80's had either brozne or green tinited rear windows.

Lka1988 · 06-10-08, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

I stand corrected. I knew the exhaust manifolds exit on the left side and I thought the whole exhaust went along the left frame rail out to the rear. I guess it crosses over underneath.

-B-

62's are like that. I assume Toyota routed the early 80 series exhaust toward the passenger side due to the gas tank....The exhaust crosses over the rear driveshaft, just behind the TC, then leads to the rear.

Lka1988 · 06-10-08, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear80

fj80 also had clear windows, fzj80's had either brozne or green tinited rear windows.

That would have been a nice option... I had to tint mine myself.

Vitesse_6 · 06-10-08, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lka1988

93-94's are oddballs. Some had semi-floater rear axles with drum brakes. And they all had that funky PAIR junk...

However I have no idea what a pair I have

Bear80 · 06-10-08, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lka1988

That would have been a nice option... I had to tint mine myself.

Well one nice thing about that is, all the tint will all match in color. No one has anything to match the factory tint for the front doors on fzj80s.

I've been keeping an eye out for a wrecked fj80 with all the glass so I can tint them all to match.....yeah I'm obsessive like that.

Bugzinarug · 06-11-08, 12:10 AM

Sooooo, here is one more area where I have to plead ignorance. Is the LX-450 still considered an FJ80? Thanks!

bugsnbikes · 06-11-08, 12:48 AM

fzj80- pulling out of the gas station....

fj80- pulling into the gas station.......

ncrockinfj · 06-11-08, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bugsnbikes

fzj80- pulling out of the gas station....

fj80- pulling into the gas station.......

... neither get outstanding gas milage so I dont see your point

4dmalamute · 06-11-08, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ncrockinfj

... neither get outstanding gas milage so I dont see your point

The point being.......the FZJ 80 has a tiny bit more HP (power).....be it only a littel bit more, its still more power, thus resulting in him or her getting the pump faster....thus, filling up sooner.....thus, pulling away from the fuel station sooner.

4dmalamute · 06-11-08, 01:17 AM

The 93+ have a third tail light in the back window, the FJ80's did not. That is how I tell.

chibo · 06-11-08, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugzinarug

Sooooo, here is one more area where I have to plead ignorance. Is the LX-450 still considered an FJ80? Thanks!

FZJ80

Doc · 06-11-08, 08:32 AM

Please quit calling them "Fjz80" The Z goes BEFORE the J.

ncrockinfj · 06-11-08, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 4dmalamute

The point being.......the FZJ 80 has a tiny bit more HP (power).....be it only a littel bit more, its still more power, thus resulting in him or her getting the pump faster....thus, filling up sooner.....thus, pulling away from the fuel station sooner.

Ahh I see

Bluetribal · 06-11-08, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear80

Well one nice thing about that is, all the tint will all match in color. No one has anything to match the factory tint for the front doors on fzj80s.

I've been keeping an eye out for a wrecked fj80 with all the glass so I can tint them all to match.....yeah I'm obsessive like that.

A previous owner of mine had the front tinted light and I think it matches fine....

Grolar · 06-11-08, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lka1988

93-94's are oddballs. Some had semi-floater rear axles with drum brakes. And they all had that funky PAIR junk...

What's a PAIR?

06-10-08, 10:29 PM	#1
mtkreitz IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 4	How to distinguish an FJZ80 Ok this is probably a newbie question, but I have to ask... How do you determine that an LC is an FJZ80? Can you tell by the VIN, the year, or someother external way? Meaning... if someone out there unknowingly has an FJZ80, how could you tell (without seeing it) if it is an FJ80 or an FJZ80? If this is obvious, please forgive the dumb question... __________________ Michael Kreitz Phoenix, AZ. 96 LX450 OME 3" 315 Toyo MT ARB Bull Bar

06-10-08, 10:31 PM	#2
chibo IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 937	Fj80 = 91/92 Fzj80 = 93+ __________________ 97 FZJ80 - Sold 96 Nissan 240SX

06-10-08, 10:33 PM	#3
Trunk Monkey IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Salt Lake City TLCA# 11251 Posts: 3,011	The way I ID them usually is that the wheels are different (4 kinda double spokes and 15" rim on an FJ, 5 spokes and 16" rim on an FZJ) Attached Images __________________ Cory Fillmore TLCA Western Individual Representative 99 UZJ 100 Series Wheels FOR SALE-CLICK HERE

06-10-08, 10:34 PM	#4
Vitesse_6 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Taylorsville Utah TLCA# 8382 Posts: 1,274	Could be a few quick ways, Engine, wheels, IIRC 3rd row seats, VIN should tell, That or the door sticker Wheels.. FJ80 has dual four spoke, FZJ80 has a 5 spoke Engines... FJ80 has the 3FE FZJ80 has the 1FZ 3rd row, Again IIRC.. FJ80 didnt have 3rd row or the brackets on the rear wheel wells FZJ80 has them. Im sure there are alot of other ways, Just a though __________________ Enjoy Brian Passey KE7TGH wasatchcruisers 71 FJ40 Stinky 94 FZJ80 Ryoku Ryu Cruiser ring's anyone Stuff I've done... My 40 work in progress

06-10-08, 10:37 PM	#6
Beowulf The quick brown fox ..... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somewhere in the foothills... Posts: 10,566	As Cory pointed out, the wheels are the easiest way. Next is the flares; they are different (narrower) and a few FJ80s were flareless. Then the tailpipe is on the left side and they are a little bit "taller" than an FZJ80 but that is really hard to tell. Other than those things, I can't tell an FJ80 from an FZJ80 without opening the bonnet. -B- __________________ 97 FZJ80 - Wing Nut MAF, locked, 315 Toyos, 4.88s, Slee 4", George's sliders, Slee bumpers, M12000, OBA, Outback drawers + other stuff. Transformation in progress... Sometimes you find yourself in the middle of nowhere. And sometimes in the middle of nowhere, you find yourself.

06-10-08, 10:40 PM	#7
mtkreitz IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 4	Thanks a bunch. I did not realize it was that easy. I assumed that 93+ were a combination of FJ and FJZ but that clears it up. One mystery down, a gagillion to go... __________________ Michael Kreitz Phoenix, AZ. 96 LX450 OME 3" 315 Toyo MT ARB Bull Bar

06-10-08, 10:53 PM	#12
Bear80 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Antonio, TEXAS TLCA# 14779 Posts: 2,480	fj80 also had clear windows, fzj80's had either brozne or green tinited rear windows. __________________ 40th FZJ80 - Range Rover Recovery Vehicle Alamo City Land Cruisers -Benjamin-

06-11-08, 12:10 AM	#17
Bugzinarug IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 18	What about the LX-450? Sooooo, here is one more area where I have to plead ignorance. Is the LX-450 still considered an FJ80? Thanks!

06-11-08, 12:48 AM	#18
bugsnbikes IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bay Area Posts: 285	fzj80- pulling out of the gas station.... fj80- pulling into the gas station....... __________________ 94-80 121k miles-locked-metaltech sliders-slee shortbus-warn8k- 71 FJ55- rip 69 Bug

06-11-08, 01:17 AM	#21
4dmalamute IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sacramento Ca. TLCA# 15346 Posts: 535	The 93+ have a third tail light in the back window, the FJ80's did not. That is how I tell. __________________ 1993 J springs with 1.5inch spacers on top, locked, snorkel, BFG 315's with spacers, Con-Ferr rack with some lights, stripped of the running boards and mudflaps, Slee rear bumper with tire carrier, CB, Hanna Sliders and a tjm bullbar up front with some hella lights. 270k and still going strong

06-11-08, 08:32 AM	#23
Doc Corn Eater Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Iowa TLCA# 17266 Posts: 4,566	Please quit calling them "Fjz80" The Z goes BEFORE the J. __________________ Eric P. 1993 Landcruiser, 190K miles. Lifted, Locked, Slidered, Slee'd, Snork'd, Winched, bobbed. Daily driver. ROTW Tall Corn Cruisers- El Presidente.