Lexus Battery vs. ?

4xoddic · 05-31-08, 09:50 AM

Disclaimer: as an FJ62 owner since '90, I've gone through a # of batteries & hold down brackets.

LONG AGO I switched to Optima (red top only option back then) to avoid corrosion & shock to the price of another new OEM hold down bracket (ere I knew of CDAN).

About the time the Optima finally died, I scored 2 Champion VORTEX when Monkey Wards closed for ~$75 @!

Romer · 05-31-08, 09:55 AM

whats your question?

4xoddic · 05-31-08, 10:06 AM

Believe that was circa 2001.

When I bought my 2nd FJ62, I scored a stainless steel hold down tray & swapped the OEM into the old FJ62 (now on its 3rd bracket set).

When one of the Vortexs went south this year, I installed an Exide Orbital.

In April 08 we bought a 97 LX450 in which the Lexus dealer had installed a new Lexus battery. Are these batteries prone to corrosion? Or is the problem more related to FJ62s?

As I'm about the sell the FJ62s, I figured on swapping an Exide into the LX450 or using it in a Samurai some year soon. If the Lexus (brand) battery is very high quality, not prone to causing corrosion, I'll keep it in the LX450. Otherwise, it will ride out in style in an FJ62.

TIA!

cruiserdan · 05-31-08, 10:26 AM

Toyota's factory replacement batteries (both divisions) are made by Interstate Batteries to Toyota's specifications (they have a higher amperage and greater reserve capacity than the "regular" version). They are very good batteries.

4xoddic · 05-31-08, 11:30 AM

The FJ62 will leave with a new (low cost) alternative.

gotmud · 06-01-08, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruiserdan

Toyota's factory replacement batteries (both divisions) are made by Interstate Batteries to Toyota's specifications (they have a higher amperage and greater reserve capacity than the "regular" version). They are very good batteries.

Are you 100% on that? I frequently purchase 27F's from a local dealership and theirs are identicle (sans labels) to batteries I get from WalMart, which are made by Johnson Controls. Both carry "Made in Mexico" stickers, similar manufacturer codes, etc...

IdahoDoug · 06-01-08, 03:21 AM

Gotmud,

Individual dealers can source batteries from wherever they want = generally lower quality. If they source the official Toyota P/N battery for you, I think that's what Dan is referring to. Just like you can find dealers who will sell you parts from outside the Toyota parts system without necessarily pointing it out to you.

DougM

gotmud · 06-01-08, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IdahoDoug

Gotmud,

Individual dealers can source batteries from wherever they want = generally lower quality. If they source the official Toyota P/N battery for you, I think that's what Dan is referring to. Just like you can find dealers who will sell you parts from outside the Toyota parts system without necessarily pointing it out to you.

DougM

Sure. -We see this a lot with fasteners, chemicals, belts, hoses, etc... However, the batteries we source from two local dealers have what appear to be a Toyota label. To me this would indicate they are "official Toyota p/n's". All I know is our cost on them from Toyota is way less than any other group 27F

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kbellve · 06-02-08, 03:45 PM

I bought the Interstate version of my LX450 battery directly from Interstate. Six years later and it is still going strong.

cruiserdan · 06-02-08, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotmud

Are you 100% on that? I frequently purchase 27F's from a local dealership and theirs are identicle (sans labels) to batteries I get from WalMart, which are made by Johnson Controls. Both carry "Made in Mexico" stickers, similar manufacturer codes, etc...

Yes, I am sure they are Interstates (they are delivered to us by an Interstate truck and Interstate handles the warranty exchange units). They could be made in Mexico, it may depend on the proximity to the Mexican battery plant. The ones I have on the rack right now do not have made in Mexico stickers on them. I would not be surprised if Johnson Controls makes Interstate's batteries.

gotmud · 06-02-08, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruiserdan

Yes, I am sure they are Interstates (they are delivered to us by an Interstate truck and Interstate handles the warranty exchange units). They could be made in Mexico, it may depend on the proximity to the Mexican battery plant. The ones I have on the rack right now do not have made in Mexico stickers on them. I would not be surprised if Johnson Controls makes Interstate's batteries.

No doubt you're right, Dan. I was just surprised to see the same stampings in both batteries (J/C and Interstate) I do know that both have facilities near Durango Mexico. Perhaps just the cases are molded there.

knorrena · 06-03-08, 10:07 AM

Gotmud,

You realize that because you challenged Dan on something that he is intimately familiar with and derives his livelihood from that you are now hexed and your truck will soon suffer catastrophic failure.

gotmud · 06-03-08, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knorrena

Gotmud,

You realize that because you challenged Dan on something that he is intimately familiar with and derives his livelihood from that you are now hexed and your truck will soon suffer catastrophic failure.

LOL. Not to worry, I have the Force.

05-31-08, 09:50 AM	#1
4xoddic IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manhattan, KS TLCA# 8537 Posts: 246	Lexus Battery vs. ? Disclaimer: as an FJ62 owner since '90, I've gone through a # of batteries & hold down brackets. LONG AGO I switched to Optima (red top only option back then) to avoid corrosion & shock to the price of another new OEM hold down bracket (ere I knew of CDAN). About the time the Optima finally died, I scored 2 Champion VORTEX when Monkey Wards closed for ~$75 @! __________________ Joe aka 4XODDIC ( allow me to pronounce that for you: 4 By, Odd Eye, See! ) aka the One Eyed Guy Owning Toyotas Since 1975 TLCA 8537 99-00 Tundra LTD 4X4; 01-90 Samurai; 07-88 TinTop Samurai; 08-97 LX450 Last edited by 4xoddic; 05-31-08 at 09:51 AM. Reason: Who the heck hit that button?

05-31-08, 09:55 AM	#2
Romer Kneel for the Shaman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Englewood, Colorado TLCA# 13968 Posts: 7,551	whats your question? __________________ Ken Romer ~ Friend of Shaman Keeper of the FAQ, Defender of Newbies, and Slayer of Tards Commander Rising Sun 4WD Club - K0ROM 97 LX450, Supercharged, Locked, and lots of other stuff ROTW 96 LX450 - ROD's 06 4Runner - Wife's 99 4Runner - daughterofromer's 03 BMW Z4 Roadster

05-31-08, 10:06 AM	#3
4xoddic IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manhattan, KS TLCA# 8537 Posts: 246	grrrr, continued . . . . Believe that was circa 2001. When I bought my 2nd FJ62, I scored a stainless steel hold down tray & swapped the OEM into the old FJ62 (now on its 3rd bracket set). When one of the Vortexs went south this year, I installed an Exide Orbital. In April 08 we bought a 97 LX450 in which the Lexus dealer had installed a new Lexus battery. Are these batteries prone to corrosion? Or is the problem more related to FJ62s? As I'm about the sell the FJ62s, I figured on swapping an Exide into the LX450 or using it in a Samurai some year soon. If the Lexus (brand) battery is very high quality, not prone to causing corrosion, I'll keep it in the LX450. Otherwise, it will ride out in style in an FJ62. TIA! Attached Images __________________ Joe aka 4XODDIC ( allow me to pronounce that for you: 4 By, Odd Eye, See! ) aka the One Eyed Guy Owning Toyotas Since 1975 TLCA 8537 99-00 Tundra LTD 4X4; 01-90 Samurai; 07-88 TinTop Samurai; 08-97 LX450

05-31-08, 10:26 AM	#4
cruiserdan Parts Shaman (per Romer) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where's my glasses? TLCA# 11332 Posts: 14,052	Toyota's factory replacement batteries (both divisions) are made by Interstate Batteries to Toyota's specifications (they have a higher amperage and greater reserve capacity than the "regular" version). They are very good batteries. __________________ Original owner 93 FZJ80,locked,blown,water/methanol injected(like a WWII fighter aircraft),lifted,winched,snorkeled,slidered,Sleeed ,moneypit. Balanced on a pin head. 95 FZJ80 trail truck (hers), 94 FZJ80 320K with a knock and a lumpy old Dodge car.

05-31-08, 11:30 AM	#5
4xoddic IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manhattan, KS TLCA# 8537 Posts: 246	THANX Romer & CDAN The FJ62 will leave with a new (low cost) alternative. __________________ Joe aka 4XODDIC ( allow me to pronounce that for you: 4 By, Odd Eye, See! ) aka the One Eyed Guy Owning Toyotas Since 1975 TLCA 8537 99-00 Tundra LTD 4X4; 01-90 Samurai; 07-88 TinTop Samurai; 08-97 LX450

06-01-08, 03:21 AM	#7
IdahoDoug IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,544	Gotmud, Individual dealers can source batteries from wherever they want = generally lower quality. If they source the official Toyota P/N battery for you, I think that's what Dan is referring to. Just like you can find dealers who will sell you parts from outside the Toyota parts system without necessarily pointing it out to you. DougM __________________ Buy Head Gasket DVD for you OR for your mechanic HERE '93 FZJ since new, 2.2kw starter, Revo 275s, locked, big Hellas, rr fog, rr flood, rr Airlift, synthetics, ARB bullbar. 97 FZJ - exact same stuff but Michelin Alpins in winter "Slicker than owl shit on a wet log." - Carter

06-02-08, 03:45 PM	#9
kbellve IH8MUD Junior Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 146	I bought the Interstate version of my LX450 battery directly from Interstate. Six years later and it is still going strong.

06-03-08, 10:07 AM	#12
knorrena IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary Posts: 889	Gotmud, You realize that because you challenged Dan on something that he is intimately familiar with and derives his livelihood from that you are now hexed and your truck will soon suffer catastrophic failure. __________________ 1997 LX 450 190000kms, locked, 285 Revos, Supercharged. You cant kill yourself on a pogostick. (Harry Parker, world famous geostatistician)

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