Mud Tire Selection / Help me out

[Red Sox Cruiser]

TrXus Mud Terrain Tire Reviews

Yokohama Geolander MT + Mud Tire Reviews

BFGoodrich Mud Terrain T/A KM2 Reviews

[Atoyot1031]

Criuserdan had a set of Dunlop Mud Rovers on his wife's rig. He said thatt they're cheap, but great tires. I don't question the shaman...

...my MTRs chuncked pretty bad at CM08.

I like the idea of the Trxxus.

[Nay]

Originally Posted by Skillet

I was reading reviews on the TrXus M/T and it looks like a high rate of sidewall blowouts.

This is one reason why I always lean towards BFG, the tripple sidewall and all that.

I've read that trxus had some sidewall failures early on in production, but haven't ever heard of anybody in person, not that this means anything.

Those highway failures would be a manufacturing issues, not a sidewall strength issue, and I don't blame anybody for casting a wary eye in Interco's direction on that subject, although Denman manufacturers the Trxus MT now.

As for BFG 3 ply, that's marketing stuff in terms of offroad durability.

You are sounding more and more like a candidate for the Toyo MT, and I will say that I really like the look of the Toyo in a 13.5" wide tire on the 80. Does increase the chance of rubbing, but that tire looks about perfect on an 80 if that matters to you.

I dunno, though, in terms of liking to be different, if I didn't have to deal with a lot of snow and icy hardpack, I'd want to try the KM2 to see how it does, because shockingly for BFG, this tire is innovative. Although I have to say those tires in a 315 just plain look smaller than my 2 year old trxus, and that bothers me because I hate having big tires look kind of small on my rig

[Skillet]

The more I look into reviews, the Hankooks are looking fairly sweet.

[Red Sox Cruiser]

I have read and heard really good things about those as well. Not bad for the money either.

[Volunteer]

Swampers of any model are not HWY friendly or wear friendly tires don't let them tell you different not to mention about twice the weight of a radial MT and the reason I switched years ago. They are also very hard on the frontend and tough to keep a good alignment or balanced. For a trail only rig they have just the right tire for your needs wether its mud, rock, trail and will last many years on a trail rig. I hate to put down a locally made product but thats just the honest truth. I've had several sets over the years they were founded, tested and produced right down the road in Rayne, LA. The TSL SX were my favorite 35x15.50 tough as nails and great traction but not road friendly.

[Red Sox Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Volunteer

Swampers of any model are not HWY friendly or wear friendly tires don't let them tell you different not to mention about twice the weight of a radial MT and the reason I switched years ago. They are also very hard on the frontend and tough to keep a good alignment or balanced. For a trail only rig they have just the right tire for your needs wether its mud, rock, trail and will last many years on a trail rig. I hate to put down a locally made product but thats just the honest truth. I've had several sets over the years they were founded, tested and produced right down the road in Rayne, LA. The TSL SX were my favorite 35x15.50 tough as nails and great traction but not road friendly.

More of my .02


I daily drive my 80 with the TrXus (no weight, no problem) and have no issues with them on the highway at highway speeds. In a previous thread I found people were getting 30,000 miles out of them no problem. Those two things considered alone were enough to convince me to try them out and then after I got them and found out how well they performed off road I was convinced that for OREGON Trails where we can be in deep sand, crawl on rocks and deep snow all in a matter of a couple of hours they were the tire for ME. The bottom line is that it is personal preference. I chose the tire I chose because of the reviews I found online, from this forum, cost and I am only planning on running them for about a year before I step up to 37's. Creeper-Sleeper is a good friend of mine who has the Toyo's and for Oregon and the wheeling he does, they suck and he hates them, but the same rig with those tires in other parts of the country they are perfect. Remember there is more to consider in this decision than just price, looks, and ratings.

Sorry for my rant I hope this helps someone.

['74 UA FJ]

Originally Posted by Skillet

The more I look into reviews, the Hankooks are looking fairly sweet.

Better plan on rotating at every oil change. The hankooks that I am familiar with (an AT version) wear uneven as hell.

[Skillet]

Originally Posted by '74 UA FJ

Better plan on rotating at every oil change. The hankooks that I am familiar with (an AT version) wear uneven as hell.

Damn...

Is there a perfect tire?

[Red Sox Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Skillet

Damn...

Is there a perfect tire?

NOPE

Only the one you choose

[ArmyFJ]

I have really liked my Toyo MTs. Thick sidewall, you can air them way down, and they have been great for me in the heavy snow, rocks, mud, muddy water (4 feet deep), and hwy. They only thing I don't like about them is its a little too wide for my rig.

[Nay]

Originally Posted by Skillet

Damn...

Is there a perfect tire?

Sure, in the sense that there is a perfect woman, too. Marry a beautiful woman and expect to spend some time balancing

I'm not convinced an MT is the right tire for you, and maybe that's why you can't decide. I say this because you seem focused on the negatives rather than what these tires really do well, and negatives like balancing and road mile wear are irrelevant if you really need the performance. They are just drawbacks that you spend more money on if you don't really need the performance.

So if you are trying to decide on an MT by picking the least amount of poison, you are really an AT user. If you are trying to decide on an MT by focusing on solving a significant problem (that is icy hardpack to blizzard to offroad snow combined with highway friendliness and rock crawling in a single tire for me), then you focus on what tire has what features to meet your needs.

I get back to trxus every time, because no other tire solves that criteria above as well as trxus that I can find, so it's easy for me to make that choice and deal with balancing as needed (twice in 16K miles).

If I took out the snow part, I'd be lying if I said that I'd have any reason to run the tires I run except for looks. It's not like you have to have MT traction for dry Colorado rocks and Moab, after all.

[FJ809496TLC]

I have the top two of your choices and love them both.

[jginca]

Jeb,

I am also looking to change to 315s. I want to go with the yoko, but it is a C rated 2 ply tire. When loaded my 97 is about 800 pounds more that me Chevy work truck, I do not like the way my work truck drives with 265 C rated tires, pretty mushy in the turns. I would hate to drive a taller C rated with a higher center of gravity. I have been going in the same territory you witht he excepction of sand, I am concerned about the 2ply sidewall.

[BROKEROB1]

I will toss in a STRONG recommendation for the Trxus MT's. I do NOT run mine as a DD and I will be honest, I would not want to DD those tires as they are heavy. You really need to consider them, though, if you are serious about having the best tire in conditions as Nay has described (he has had several sets of these). They will always get you where you point your truck. I have mine aired down for the entire day at 12 psi with no issues. They are certainly acceptable on road and we frequent our cabin (1.5 hr drive) with these tires on in the winter months regularly. I would not even put these in the same class as the traditional BFG MT's, as these are head and shoulders better performers in all terrain (from personal experience).

[landtoy80]

Originally Posted by d0ubledown

if its strictly a weekend warrior/trail rig, id look at some bias tires like irocs or sx's..heavy SOB's, but much more capable off road than the usual radial lot from BFG, GY, Toyo's...etc.

What are the good/bad of a bias tire on a 80, on and off road?

[Taco Blonco]

Im a fan of the Maxxis Big Borns. they have worn very well and preformed in all conditions quite well.

My .02

[Cj80cruiser]

I second the Maxxis. Landspeeder runs them too and says he likes them a lot better than his old BFG's. He's pretty rough on tires too and they are holding up nicely. I'll have to say they ride well on the street also. BTW Maxxis also makes the Summit Mud Dawg which will be a little cheaper. Both are around $150-$170 in the 315 variety here in Opelika.
Didn't take much weight to balance either.

[Cj80cruiser]

Originally Posted by landtoy80

What are the good/bad of a bias tire on a 80, on and off road?

Bias will be better off-road pretty much but the sidewalls should be a little stiffer which might affect airing down. They also tend to get flat spots while sitting although they work themselves out when heated from driving. If you're sensitive to tire feel and ride quality I'd stay away from the bias but they never bothered me before when I had some baja belted Mickey t's.
Better off-road = tougher
Did I help or state the obvious?

[reffug]

Toyo M/T's

Oh and although swampers have great sidewalls they do not work well out west from what I have been told by many who have tried them.

[Skillet]

So...

What is a price that I should be paying on...

Toyo M/T = full set of 5

TrXs M/T = full set of 5

Hankook M/T = full set of 5

??

The prices I am finding are all over the board.

[Ruadhrigh]

Originally Posted by Skillet

So...

What is a price that I should be paying on...

Toyo M/T = full set of 5

TrXs M/T = full set of 5

Hankook M/T = full set of 5

??

The prices I am finding are all over the board.

check this place:

onlinetires.com




Toyo M/T = full set of 5 $1100

TrXs M/T = full set of 5

Hankook M/T = full set of 5 $780



I just ordered 5 BFG muds 255/85 for $855 w/ shipping

[Cj80cruiser]

Come on skillet see the light and go with the cheaper better choice-----Maxxis

[Ruadhrigh]

what is the cost of 5 maxxies?