anyone use locright lockers ?

[roamingaz]

I have been shopping around for lockers and Locrights seem like a pretty good deal. I know ARB would be the way to go but untill I get the cash to do gear change and front and rear lockers, something less exspensive sounds good.
any one use these and how do they handle on the road ?

[Hilux]

Two things: One, don't let price dictate something as important as your traction source, IMO LockRights don't have the best rep. Their principal is the same as any other lunch box so that leads me to believe its the metal quality.


And two:

I been doing some thinking and I feel if you're going to put a locker in the front I feel you might as well put a spool in it.

Has anyone had an experience where the front diff had enough backlash to unlock a front locker?

I wouldn't want a spool in a steer axle. A locker that does not unlock will have characterizations of a spool only a full spool would be much more stronger.

[medtro]

Originally Posted by Hilux

I been doing some thinking and I feel if you're going to put a locker in the front I feel you might as well put a spool in it.

Spool in the front? Can you please explain why?

[Hilux]

Originally Posted by medtro

Spool in the front? Can you please explain why?

Originally Posted by Hilux

***Has anyone had an experience where the front diff had enough backlash to unlock a front locker?***

I wouldn't want a spool in a steer axle. A locker that does not unlock will have characterizations of a spool only a full spool would be much more stronger.

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[roamingaz]

I am considerng just locking the rear.

Who would spool the front ? !

[KingBeeIII]

I've got Locrights in both axels on my 40. I personally don't like the way it handles on the street, not that it was that great to begin with. I'm assuming that your 80 sees a lot of double duty, so I wouldn't do it.

Then again, I'm really good at doing things I shouldn't do.

[Hilux]

Originally Posted by roamingaz

I am considering just locking the rear.

Who would spool the front ? !

I didn't see that distinction in your first post, sorry.



I'll say thins again for the cheap seats, A locker that will NOT unlock is the same as a full spool.

I do not think a lunch box locker will have enough backlash or drag to UN-lock it in a turn, so therefor it's the same thing as a full spool.

M.O, and I've asked, if anyone had an experience, and only those with an AWD transfer case should acknowledge, if I am wrong in my hypothesis.

[tacomafj-80]

I run them front and rear on my daily driven tacoma and they have never let me down. I love these suckas. They are noisy when Im taking a corner on the street, but that dosent bother me- kind of like it. My truck also has a manual tranny, so the locker acts up more on the street. Its my experiance that an auto tranny tames down the harshness a little more. I wouldnt run one in the front diff of an all wheel drive truck. My trucks been on everything from mud to rocks and I have no problems with them letting me down. As long as your on the gas, the locker will not ratchet, they will stay locked. When it ever rains here, I need to be a little more carefull- but thats with any fulltime locker. good luck

[medtro]

I drove a 1993 FZJ80 with lockrite in the rear before. I didn't feel anything while driving on streets and freeway. If I were to get a lunchbox locker today, I would probably get an Aussielocker.

[medtro]

Originally Posted by Hilux

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I am starting to understand the poll about you in chat

[35inchoverdrive]

Originally Posted by Hilux

I been doing some thinking and I feel if you're going to put a locker in the front I feel you might as well put a spool in it.

Has anyone had an experience where the front diff had enough backlash to unlock a front locker?

I wouldn't want a spool in a steer axle. A locker that does not unlock will have characterizations of a spool only a full spool would be much more stronger.

I run Aussie Lockers front and rear in my 40, and I have found that I can get the front one to unlock in a turn. If if bump the throttle just a little while initiating the turn, it will often unlock and ratchet around the corner. Of course, if I'm on the throttle hard, then it's going to stay locked up throughout the turn.
As others have said though, I would *not* run an auto locker in the *front* of an 80.

[inkpot]

Originally Posted by roamingaz

I am considerng just locking the rear.

Who would spool the front ? !

Howdy! For your situation, I would recommend the LockRight/Aussielocker as a good choice. Improved offroad traction, inexpensive, can be installed easily and quickly, the ratcheting and twitchy steering is much less of a problem in a wagon than in an FJ40.

I run LockRights front and rear. Most of the time I do not have any problem with the front ratching free on turns when I am offroad, but occasionally on real loose rock I can hear the front tires slide over the rocks instead of the outer tire freespinning.

In the young and early days of lunchbox lockers, there were a lot of stories of them having metal failures. It still happens nowdays, but I don't hear it near as often. Anything can be broken, even Longfields. My rear locker has lasted over 15 years, which includes a major catastrophe that sheared the rear pinion between the inner and outer bearings, and then the gear wedged between the ring and pumpkin. The locker survived OK, but I did loose a couple of the pins and springs while gutting the diff in the dark, on the trail. LockRight mailed me replacements for FREE!

You mentioned that you plan on ARBs front and rear later on. I recommend that IF and WHEN you can afford them, selectable lockers are much better for most rigs, especially the front axle. John

[WarDamnEagle]

Originally Posted by Hilux

I didn't see that distinction in your first post, sorry.



I'll say thins again for the cheap seats, A locker that will NOT unlock is the same as a full spool.

I do not think a lunch box locker will have enough backlash or drag to UN-lock it in a turn, so therefor it's the same thing as a full spool.

M.O, and I've asked, if anyone had an experience, and only those with an AWD transfer case should acknowledge, if I am wrong in my hypothesis.

So why didn't you just advise him not to put one in the front instead of these esoteric, only you can understand answers (your first post)? I think you have a lot of knowledge on these vehicles but you speak an entirely different language most of the time.

[roamingaz]

Hmmmm. looks like my offroad trailer on Ebay is going to sell , so I may just wait and get the ARB 's and not have to worry about the side affects of the lock right. I had a Detroit locker in the rear of my full size Blazer and it sucked driving in snow when I went hunting.

[Hilux]

Originally Posted by WarDamnEagle

So why didn't you just advise him not to put one in the front instead of these esoteric, only you can understand answers (your first post)? I think you have a lot of knowledge on these vehicles but you speak an entirely different language most of the time.

I like to think this thread will be used in the teaching of someone else and not just him.

If I can establish (since this is 80's tech we have the AWD case ) that the locker will in fact not unlock then let him figure out with the rest of the millions of threads about a spool in a steer axle. BUT every part time case 4wheeler has answered "yes" to the "I run lock right" question so far, cant argue with that.


I love answering vague a** questions only to have "I wasn't planning on that" as a response. I am a mime reader

[WarDamnEagle]

Originally Posted by Hilux

I like to think this thread will be used in the teaching of someone else and not just him.

I love answering vague a** questions only to have "I wasn't planning on that" as a response. I am a mime reader

Yes oh wise Sensi. But instead of "wax on, wax off" couldn't you just tell him not to get into a fight?

Originally Posted by roamingaz

Hmmmm. looks like my offroad trailer on Ebay is going to sell , so I may just wait and get the ARB 's and not have to worry about the side affects of the lock right. I had a Detroit locker in the rear of my full size Blazer and it sucked driving in snow when I went hunting.

Right answer. You're much better off, IMHO, in an 80 with part time lockers.

[-Spike-]

Hilux, you may have great info to impart, but you are impossible to understand.

On subject, I ran a Lockright in the rear of a Nissan 4x4 with a manual tranny. Worked great, and rarely knew it was there on the road except for decelleration, although the effect is supposedly negligible with an auto tranny.

-Spike

[caldentey]

I've run a lockright in my 91 FJ80. It was in the rear. They aren't that noticable in an AWD vehicle. Everybody says "great bang for the buck" and they truely are. If money is tight, this is a great option. CDL and rear locked 80 is a beautiful thing. If you wheel in the snow, you'll have to come to grips with the rear pushing around a bit. Other than that, in my experience, they work great in an 80. Good luck.

[Cj80cruiser]

Originally Posted by Hilux

Two things: One, don't let price dictate something as important as your traction source, IMO LockRights don't have the best rep. Their principal is the same as any other lunch box so that leads me to believe its the metal quality.


And two:

I been doing some thinking and I feel if you're going to put a locker in the front I feel you might as well put a spool in it.

Has anyone had an experience where the front diff had enough backlash to unlock a front locker?

I wouldn't want a spool in a steer axle. A locker that does not unlock will have characterizations of a spool only a full spool would be much more stronger.

Sorry guys to ruin your rip on Hilux but this made sense to me.

[Sc0-]

I have a Loc-Rite in a rear Dana-60 132" wheelbase Jeep truck running 35" tires and a hopped up Old 455 V8. It Holds! Turns are a little noisy on the street with the ratcheting sound and always feared having low air pressure in a tire but offroad it's a definite locker. Now I can't comment on the Detroit EZ-Locker as when I bought the truck the previous owner gave it to me in a box saying that he replaced the springs once and it still locks/unlocks on him so he yanked it out and mentioned that if I replaced the springs it can be reinstalled. The Aussie Locker looks to be similar as well. (The Jeep was not AWD, P/T)

I am dreaming of a full build using ARB's but TJM hasn't replied back about their ProLockers, Detroit doesn't have an Electrac available for the LC and OX has yet to offer something... So the Aussie sounds good especially for the price.

[TX80Fan]

go with an Aussie in rear only and, if needed, an ARB setup in the front. then, get your popcorn ready for 'scary' traction and adrenaline elevations...

[Hilux]

Originally Posted by TX80Fan

go with an Aussie in rear only and, if needed, an ARB setup in the front. then, get your popcorn ready for 'scary' traction and adrenaline elevations...

X2, and keep your eyes open for stuff like this: 80 series locked axles with 5:29's $1200obo!!!! colorado

Prolly gone, but things like this have happened before, and will happen again

And unless I'm mistaken, you can get a cable lock mechanism for E-lockers, if the computer or electrics scare you.


IMO, stuff like this you can do yourself so that leaves out mucho money for someone else's labor.

[ThaiCruiser]

Originally Posted by TX80Fan

go with an Aussie in rear only and, if needed, an ARB setup in the front. then, get your popcorn ready for 'scary' traction and adrenaline elevations...

Sorry to hijack your thread. :( but this is my ideal setup!

Okay, let's get back to the topic.

[Cj80cruiser]

Originally Posted by ThaiCruiser

Sorry to hijack your thread. :( but this is my ideal setup!

Okay, let's get back to the topic.

What no winch?
I voted lockers.

[ThaiCruiser]

Originally Posted by Cj80cruiser

What no winch?
I voted lockers.

Now I'm greedy trying to get both!