PaintLab Mix™ Modular Cargo System- Part 1

FirstToy · 03-17-08, 01:14 PM

I've been designing a cargo system for almost a year... ever since I built my first one over 5 years ago (inspired by PismoJim's excellent writeup), I've been designing on it.

history
first cargo box: drawer-in-drawer design

second cargo platform: fridge/CO2 mount

3rd cargo platform: same design in the 80

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New Cargo System
from the outside & front seat- see the Quad Jerry can Rack?

PaintLab Mix™ modular rack system (*messy cargo area not included)

Once I came up with a design, not having the tools myself, I had Luke Porter bend up the pieces to my specs. He was willing even tho he didn't know what it was.
I welded it up myself and mounted to the existing 3rd row mounts thanks to Inverness for his glorious shop.

The idea is the ability to hold up to 4 jerry cans or tools, etc without taking any cargo floor space. It also centers the heavy load directly over the rear axle.
CO2 tank is mounted to the end of the rack w/ QuickFist straps (temporary design-i'm thinking of welding a flat plate to bolt accessories to)

Water Jerry Cans are accessible for showers thru the slider windows- easy & don't have to pull cans out.
Tool boxes are accessible but out of the way.
The stock tire jack area is still accessible.

I am working with Hanna Quality to put these into production! The advantage is Ken Hanna's expertise to make custom, bolt-on mounts & all the details refined. It would be more expensive to DIY at what HQ is thinking of selling the racks for so I think it will be a great bolt-on mod for anyone.

Part 2 will be the rest of the Cargo System stay tuned!

CreeperSleeper · 03-17-08, 01:49 PM

Oooo.... I would love those!

PKP80 · 03-17-08, 01:49 PM

James, very innovative bro, nice work

sseaman · 03-17-08, 02:25 PM

Very nice work

SOCALFJ · 03-17-08, 04:05 PM

Looks really good, and it's very creative.. but can you tell us what the carriers are mounted too? The fold out 3rd row bolt locations? Seems like a ton of weight/stress (2)5 gallon cans) for that one area.

FirstToy · 03-17-08, 04:15 PM

I used the stock 3rd row mounts with some additional reinforcement. It is no where close to being a lot of stress for that location. (Hanna's bracket would be custom so even stronger and bolt-in to stock location)
3rd row seat mount must hold the seat, adult +.
the cargo rack + 1 jerry can full of water is probably close to the weight of one 3rd row seat, I am guessing.
I'm heading to DV soon so i'll test it out on the trail.

concretejungle · 03-17-08, 04:28 PM

that's a pretty genius idea there. daddy like. I will keep an eye on this one.

cc93cruiser · 03-17-08, 08:53 PM

Semi-thread hijack....This may be a dumb question and out of the subject, but I was wondering how long can you store water in those jerry cans until it goes bad....?

..Can water even go bad? It's been a long day at work......

NLXTACY · 03-17-08, 08:54 PM

This should answer it:
Howstuffworks "Can drinking water go bad?"

Ruadhrigh · 03-17-08, 09:01 PM

Damn! I wish I had third row seats! Or at least the brackets.

You have done some nice work. Very nice

Bear80 · 03-17-08, 11:10 PM

Very, Very nice idea. Thanks for sharing, if it was me I woul have kept it secrect from the 'Mud hounds.

Since you did though, I'm on my way to the junkyard with a rolled 80 to get the seat brackets. I'd like to keep my jump sets an option. These carriers make a great place to put a box with all the recovery gear safe.

FirstToy · 03-17-08, 11:39 PM

I think it's always good to share

With HannaQuality's design & price goal, it doesn't make sense to DIY for most. It will be a better product & less expensive (and less time consuming).

For those that have fabbing setup & materials, I think this is one you can whip up pretty quick.

Wait for PART 2! huuuummmmmuuueueeeee (Predator evil laugh)

thestallionq8 · 03-18-08, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstToy

The idea is the ability to hold up to 4 jerry cans or tools, etc without taking any cargo floor space. It also centers the heavy load directly over the rear axle.
CO2 tank is mounted to the end of the rack w/ QuickFist straps (temporary design-i'm thinking of welding a flat plate to bolt accessories to)

Water Jerry Cans are accessible for showers thru the slider windows- easy & don't have to pull cans out.
Tool boxes are accessible but out of the way.
The stock tire jack area is still accessible.

I like the way water is written in Arabic on those cans!

reffug · 03-18-08, 01:08 AM

very cool as usual James............

450 DUDE · 03-18-08, 06:37 AM

Dang Dude thats a kiler setup!

Cool Ill see it this week!

See ya in DV
ken

theferg · 03-18-08, 08:11 AM

Most excellent idea! I can't wait for them to be available from Hanna.

To that note, I can't quite tell if you are saying that the Hanna ones will bolt on to existing third row seat mounts like yours, or if they will replace the third row seat mounts all-together...?

-Ferg-

FirstToy · 03-18-08, 11:15 AM

sorry for the confusion,
Hanna's will replace the 3rd row seat mounts and simply bolt-on, replacing your stock bracket.

cruiser-poor · 03-18-08, 11:40 AM

I never cease to be amazed at the inventiveness and fab skills some of you guys have. Bravo! I would be interested in a set of these too, if they go into production. Subscription added.

BTW, that storage box is also a work of art! It looks like it would be right at home on a yacht. (in this case, it's in a land yacht)

Bluetribal · 03-18-08, 01:30 PM

Those water jugs seem to be thinner than a typical jug. It seems with this set-up you would also have to sell the jugs with it. Or are these jugs very easy to find?

FirstToy · 03-18-08, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluetribal

Those water jugs seem to be thinner than a typical jug. It seems with this set-up you would also have to sell the jugs with it. Or are these jugs very easy to find?

standard military spec jerry can

Sanchez · 03-18-08, 03:28 PM

As they say in my neck of the woods, HELLA SICK!!!

concretejungle · 03-18-08, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanchez

As they say in my neck of the woods, HELLA SICK!!!

haha, yea, i think I've already picked on you once for that comment.

rockclmbr · 03-19-08, 02:08 PM

Looks good James!

I made something similar that mounts behind the driver's seat with the middle seat removed. Ok for a 3 seater, but I like your idea better. Unfortunately I have a fridge and 1/2 drawer taking up the back of the 80.

Have you thought about making the holders for the 100 yet? ;-)

CreeperSleeper · 03-19-08, 05:17 PM

Hurry up and get these on the market!

24HOURSOFNEVADA · 03-21-08, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by concretejungle

haha, yea, i think I've already picked on you once for that comment.

You did. And it was funny then too!

ashooter · 03-23-08, 08:40 AM

VERY nice!!!

rmirandayopo · 03-24-08, 04:23 PM

James, do you have a canopy for your LX450? That’s Gucci

Nice work with the interior rack for the Jerry cans…

You can actually improve it and add a flat piece of wood, and split the cargo area in two sections…without having the drawers in place, just a flat area that goes from side to sideR

03-17-08, 01:14 PM	#1
FirstToy tlcwagons.org Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,418	PaintLab Mix™ Modular Cargo System- Part 1 I've been designing a cargo system for almost a year... ever since I built my first one over 5 years ago (inspired by PismoJim's excellent writeup), I've been designing on it. history first cargo box: drawer-in-drawer design second cargo platform: fridge/CO2 mount 3rd cargo platform: same design in the 80 ************************************************ ******** New Cargo System** from the outside & front seat- see the Quad Jerry can Rack? PaintLab Mix™ modular rack system (messy cargo area not included) Once I came up with a design, not having the tools myself, I had Luke Porter bend up the pieces to my specs. He was willing even tho he didn't know what it was. I welded it up myself and mounted to the existing 3rd row mounts thanks to Inverness for his glorious shop. The idea is the ability to hold up to 4 jerry cans or tools, etc without taking any cargo floor space. It also centers the heavy load directly over the rear axle. CO2 tank is mounted to the end of the rack w/ QuickFist straps (temporary design-i'm thinking of welding a flat plate to bolt accessories to) Water Jerry Cans are accessible for showers thru the slider windows- easy & don't have to pull cans out. Tool boxes are accessible but out of the way. The stock tire jack area is still accessible. I am working with Hanna Quality* to put these into production! The advantage is Ken Hanna's expertise to make custom, bolt-on mounts & all the details refined. It would be more expensive to DIY at what HQ is thinking of selling the racks for so I think it will be a great bolt-on mod for anyone. Part 2 will be the rest of the Cargo System stay tuned! __________________ TLCA#14645 BRC#41798 I love cachapas! my wip I drink your milkshake!

03-17-08, 01:49 PM	#3
PKP80 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA TLCA# 14900 Posts: 1,722	James, very innovative bro, nice work __________________ Sam Shaya 96' FZJ80 convertable 4x4 Labs Rear end/Custom shock mounts KING shocks/ other goodies, but you get the idea. Call Sign KI6KNB "Team Pull-OUT" Phi Kappa Psi

03-17-08, 02:25 PM	#4
sseaman IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,355	Very nice work __________________ 91 FJ80 318k, spare tire mod, custom roof rack----SOLD 98 4runner 136k 98 Avalon 138k

03-17-08, 04:05 PM	#5
SOCALFJ "The Adventure Duo" Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,336	Looks really good, and it's very creative.. but can you tell us what the carriers are mounted too? The fold out 3rd row bolt locations? Seems like a ton of weight/stress (2)5 gallon cans) for that one area. __________________ www.adventureduo.com [KI6LBB] 2004 Jeep Wrangler TJ X Edition 2003 Sportsmobile 4x4 EB50

03-17-08, 04:15 PM	#6
FirstToy tlcwagons.org Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,418	I used the stock 3rd row mounts with some additional reinforcement. It is no where close to being a lot of stress for that location. (Hanna's bracket would be custom so even stronger and bolt-in to stock location) 3rd row seat mount must hold the seat, adult +. the cargo rack + 1 jerry can full of water is probably close to the weight of one 3rd row seat, I am guessing. I'm heading to DV soon so i'll test it out on the trail. __________________ TLCA#14645 BRC#41798 I love cachapas! my wip I drink your milkshake!

03-17-08, 04:28 PM	#7
concretejungle IH8MUD Tour Guide Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cadillac TLCA# 14646 Posts: 5,992	that's a pretty genius idea there. daddy like. I will keep an eye on this one. __________________ 95' FZJ80 OME med./J lift, ARB rack, ARB Bull Bar w/tmax 12,500, 315 Nitto, stainless brake lines, Center Diff Lock, Sliders, IPOR Skid, IPOR rear bumper, upgraded slee sticker, custom dents, more to come. . . Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh".

03-17-08, 08:53 PM	#8
cc93cruiser IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Redwood City, Ca. TLCA# 15132 Posts: 1,043	Semi-thread hijack....This may be a dumb question and out of the subject, but I was wondering how long can you store water in those jerry cans until it goes bad....?..Can water even go bad? It's been a long day at work...... __________________ Robert Muniz TLCA#15132 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 206K 3x locked+4.88's+315 BFG AT&MT+SAFARI SNORKEL+SLEE 4"LIFT+ARB FR+WARN M12000+HANNA RR+SLEE SLIDERS+SLEE SKID+AO DRAWERS+ARB FRIDGE+DUAL OPTIMAS+GARVIN RACK+IPF'S+OKOLE COVERS+HUSKY MATS+POLY REARS+ NOT INSTALLED YET-LONG INNERS+NF BIRFS

03-17-08, 09:01 PM	#10
Ruadhrigh (pronounced rod-ree) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Burque TLCA# 16603 Posts: 1,728	Damn! I wish I had third row seats! Or at least the brackets. You have done some nice work. Very nice __________________ '97 FZJ80: OME'd, Shortbus'd, ALI'd, 255'd, deflared, rebuilt engine, half-assed 2wd... '07 Bianchi: SRAM'd, Easton'd, Crank Bros'd, Daily Driver

03-17-08, 11:10 PM	#11
Bear80 Ante up to an 80 series! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Antonio, TEXAS TLCA# 14779 Posts: 2,443	Very, Very nice idea. Thanks for sharing, if it was me I woul have kept it secrect from the 'Mud hounds. Since you did though, I'm on my way to the junkyard with a rolled 80 to get the seat brackets. I'd like to keep my jump sets an option. These carriers make a great place to put a box with all the recovery gear safe. __________________ 40th FZJ80 - Range Rover Recovery Vehicle Alamo City Land Cruisers -Benjamin-

03-17-08, 11:39 PM	#12
FirstToy tlcwagons.org Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,418	I think it's always good to share With HannaQuality's design & price goal, it doesn't make sense to DIY for most. It will be a better product & less expensive (and less time consuming). For those that have fabbing setup & materials, I think this is one you can whip up pretty quick. Wait for PART 2! huuuummmmmuuueueeeee (Predator evil laugh) __________________ TLCA#14645 BRC#41798 I love cachapas! my wip I drink your milkshake!

03-18-08, 01:08 AM	#14
reffug grown up MOD Join Date: May 2004 Location: 'in dat der briar patch' TLCA# 14549 Posts: 3,772	very cool as usual James............ __________________ "If it wasn't a Landcruiser and hadn't been built the way it was you do realize you would be DEAD." VA State Police Officer

03-18-08, 06:37 AM	#15
450 DUDE IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ione CA Posts: 1,173	Dang Dude thats a kiler setup! Cool Ill see it this week! See ya in DV ken __________________ 97 with thingy's and dodads Now with added geek KI6JEO

03-18-08, 08:11 AM	#16
theferg IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: wandering the wild wild west TLCA# 12162 Posts: 1,713	Most excellent idea! I can't wait for them to be available from Hanna. To that note, I can't quite tell if you are saying that the Hanna ones will bolt on to existing third row seat mounts like yours, or if they will replace the third row seat mounts all-together...? -Ferg- __________________ Ben F \| TLCA 12162 Big Blue Box--1984 FJ60--wannabe 80 series--R.I.P noname--1994 FZJ80--already got the locks--gone baby gone new noname--2002 4Runner--need the locks... __________________ 80 Series E-Lock Diffs Retrofit for FJ60

03-18-08, 11:15 AM	#17
FirstToy tlcwagons.org Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,418	sorry for the confusion, Hanna's will replace the 3rd row seat mounts and simply bolt-on, replacing your stock bracket. __________________ TLCA#14645 BRC#41798 I love cachapas! my wip I drink your milkshake!

03-18-08, 11:40 AM	#18
cruiser-poor IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Alabama TLCA# 12718 Posts: 126	I never cease to be amazed at the inventiveness and fab skills some of you guys have. Bravo! I would be interested in a set of these too, if they go into production. Subscription added. BTW, that storage box is also a work of art! It looks like it would be right at home on a yacht. (in this case, it's in a land yacht) __________________ Bruce Davis 97 FZJ80, 78K, factory locked, OME 851/860, Slee tube sliders, Slee transfer skid, Painless Fab tube bumperettes, CDL/pin7, Magnaflow 59906 cat, BFG 255/85R16 MTs

03-18-08, 01:30 PM	#19
Bluetribal I-HEART-DIRT Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Diego Of San Posts: 1,808	Those water jugs seem to be thinner than a typical jug. It seems with this set-up you would also have to sell the jugs with it. Or are these jugs very easy to find? __________________ Mark 96' LC - 285 Cooper STT's \| Slee Skid Plate \| Eclipse Speakers \| JD Bulbs \| Rear Cargo Light \| Durabaked \| Visor Fix *\| Hanna Bumper \| CDL Switch* *Check out* *SoCal 80's*

03-18-08, 03:28 PM	#21
Sanchez Cause thats how I roll Join Date: May 2006 Location: California TLCA# 16832 Posts: 138	As they say in my neck of the woods, HELLA SICK!!! __________________ 96 LX450 4" Slee Metaltech Sliders ARB front bumper 35" Toyos trailgear 1.5 spacers Build built TRE w/OEM ends KI6RGS

03-19-08, 02:08 PM	#23
rockclmbr IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 486	Looks good James! I made something similar that mounts behind the driver's seat with the middle seat removed. Ok for a 3 seater, but I like your idea better. Unfortunately I have a fridge and 1/2 drawer taking up the back of the 80. Have you thought about making the holders for the 100 yet? ;-) __________________ '97 FZJ80 "Blue Ox" - ARB Bullbar, ARB Lockers, OME J's, George's LEDs, Custom Drawer, Kaymar with Tire Carrier, Hanna Quality Sliders, Hellroaring Dual-Batt, 35" Toyo OC, and more! 2000 UZJ100 "Grey Ghost" - Outback Rack, Sliders, 285 Nitto Terra Grapplers, Norcal 80s Sticker

03-23-08, 08:40 AM	#26
ashooter IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: TEXAS Posts: 409	VERY nice!!! __________________ '92 FJ80, 3F-E Grrrrrrrrrrrrr, 464 Beige paint job, 255/85R16 Toyo M/T's on 70 Series steelies, OME 861/862... dubbed "Old Suzy" by my 3-year old.

03-24-08, 04:23 PM	#27
rmirandayopo IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 258	James, do you have a canopy for your LX450? That’s Gucci Nice work with the interior rack for the Jerry cans… You can actually improve it and add a flat piece of wood, and split the cargo area in two sections…without having the drawers in place, just a flat area that goes from side to sideR