MetalTech front bumper! - Page 2

ERG80 · 11-20-07, 08:04 PM

I like it. Also interested to see a rear bumper.

Nay · 11-20-07, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chibo

So what would it cost to exactly duplicate his setup?

Not much if you can bend tube and weld

ginericLC · 11-20-07, 08:28 PM

Chad,

Here is what I think

I guess I wasn't there in person enough to pester Mark. Ask him how many emails I sent him. 3 years of pestering! And yes, I love it.

Personally I think a 12k winch is over rated for an 80. Tuck in a Warn XD9000 without the integrated solenoids. Mount the pack under the hood and be happy.

By the way, Woody limits us to 20 images in our messages or I'd have more

Eric V.

ginericLC · 11-20-07, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by C6H12O6

I'm picturing you in a schoolboy outfit hopping around your office playing air guitar.

Eeewwww...

OK, you just made me want to barf! Because I'm sure my picture is much more visual than yours. He's my brother.

C6H12O6 · 11-20-07, 09:09 PM

Holy crap! Angus Young is your brother?

Land Speeder · 11-20-07, 09:18 PM

You got a good-looking bumper there sir.

For those wanting to see the design without a stinger....

I had Brad at Painless Fab build this for me after deciding that my Slee bumper was way too heavy and wanted more clearance. I ended up cutting even higher and Brad matched the cuts with the bottom tube....
This design is the best at being light and minimalist. With minor modifications it can accept a winch. I love it. I expect to see more of these style bumpers in the coming years as we continue to wheel the crap out of our rigs and expect more clearance.

PKP80 · 11-21-07, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fowldarr

I'm not a big fan of the big stingers, but I like the concept. If the price was right, I"m sure they'd sell

Stingers/bumper hoops help save the hood, radiator, and your wallet in the event of a roll/flop. I wish I had had one in the front when I rolled her. I imagine that the damage would not have been as great to the front area. IMO

Walking Eagle · 11-21-07, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Land Speeder

For those wanting to see the design without a stinger....

hummm... that's not the same design by the same person, so that's a bit misleading

MDarius · 11-21-07, 09:22 AM

I don't know, I like and I don't like. To me it's like showing off the 80's underwear. All the little welds and bends, hardware and unfinished steel edges. I like the looks of a closed bumper, but I certainly appreciate the benefits of tubing.

Land Speeder · 11-21-07, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Walking Eagle

hummm... that's not the same design by the same person, so that's a bit misleading

Single cross tube with supporting tubes angled from the frame rails connecting to the top tube at the corner bends.... same design, different welding interpretation with a stinger added.
What's misleading? I plainly wrote who made mine.

I love this bumper made by Metal Tech, most likely would have bought it had it been available 6 months ago. But of course I would have said to leave the stinger off. My personal preference. Those angled tubes going to the corner of the top tube make it impossible to move that corner. There is no plated bumper that I know of that can claim that.

Atoyot1031 · 11-21-07, 10:39 AM

Tube bumpers rock! Nice job, if there's a price I would consider especially if it were a weld together kit. I am working on one similar to the Frankie's design with Adam from 4xinnovations. It's fun stuff!

Box Rocket · 11-21-07, 11:09 AM

Not being critical at all, I like the design a lot, but what is the thinking with airbag compatibility? Just curious. Doesn't matter to me since my '93 doesn't have airbags, but I'd still like to know if the airbags really don't matter with something like this or if this will still work just fine.

CreeperSleeper · 11-21-07, 11:28 AM

The production bumper will be airbag compatable. Not sure if mine is because we cut and welded to the frame... I'll let you know if they ever go off! As for the cost and when it will be available, you will have to start pestering LT about it. (He is the one doing this project, not Mark, as I understand it.) For those who don't like the open tube look, you could just plate between the tube with sheet metal... I'm sure it wouldn't cost too much more to have that as an option.

Walking Eagle · 11-21-07, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Box Rocket

Not being critical at all, I like the design a lot, but what is the thinking with airbag compatibility? Just curious. Doesn't matter to me since my '93 doesn't have airbags, but I'd still like to know if the airbags really don't matter with something like this or if this will still work just fine.

My feeling is as long as it doesn't make them go off easier, I'm good with that. They require service after 10 years anyway that no-one gets, and even the newest 80 series is 10 years old.

helocat · 11-21-07, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PKP80

Stingers/bumper hoops help save the hood, radiator, and your wallet in the event of a roll/flop. I wish I had had one in the front when I rolled her. I imagine that the damage would not have been as great to the front area. IMO

Stingers: We have a customer thast hit a 5 point buck with our med. Stinger on his FJ40 (its about the same size as what’s on Chads 80s) It shoved the animal under the truck 100% , he just had to hose off his axels.

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Originally Posted by Box Rocket

Not being critical at all, I like the design a lot, but what is the thinking with airbag compatibility? Just curious. Doesn't matter to me since my '93 doesn't have airbags, but I'd still like to know if the airbags really don't matter with something like this or if this will still work just fine.

Nope, no aftermarket bumper for the 80 is “air bag approved”. Not even the ARB ones that have been crash tested by ARB. You have to move to the 100 series to start getting into “air bag approved”. When you start putting crumple zones into a bumper, you start removing its ability to work well with a winch. (Mainly side loads with a winch)

Yes Eric has been on me for the last three years to make such a bumper. He ran the proto (non stinger) I made over two years ago. The concept for that bumper came from one he had help make a few years earlier. This new version is a combination of that, LT’s input and Chads. Personally I am not a big fan of welded on bumpers, this was what Chad wanted and what LT had time to do. A production version has always been on the list to build, looks like we will just push it forward a bit. The winch it will be made to hold will be a 9000lb planetary style. I completely agree with what was earlier said on this post, a light weight, high performance bumper is complemented by a similar winch. (My personal favorite right now is the 9.5xp. I have ran a 9.5ti on my 80 for the last two years with no need for a bigger winch.)

Mark

83white · 11-22-07, 11:15 AM

count me in on a order...

douglashuft · 11-22-07, 03:53 PM

I like it a lot over the arb. As much as I hate the the "football helmet face guard look", I would like to see a hoop wrap around over the headlights and turn signals. It might offer protection to some parts that are not going to be chopped off and would further reinforce the ends.

CreeperSleeper · 05-21-08, 12:52 PM

Just talked to LT and I guess the production bumper is done. Now we just wait until it's on the market!

Nay · 05-21-08, 02:10 PM

Where the hell was yours on that Can Opener flop? I thought it was welded on...

CreeperSleeper · 05-21-08, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nay

Where the hell was yours on that Can Opener flop? I thought it was welded on...

The Can Opener flop was before the bumper... You can tell by the way my pass fender looks in this pic:

Nay · 05-21-08, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CreeperSleeper

The Can Opener flop was before the bumper... You can tell by the way my pass fender looks in this pic:

Oh, crap. You have like 10 threads going back from the dead. I have no clue, so I'll shut up. I can't keep up with this while sitting on this miserable conference call

CreeperSleeper · 05-21-08, 02:46 PM

Yeah, I realized people asked questions that I didn't answer...

easyG · 05-21-08, 03:34 PM

So when do we get to see it already?

CreeperSleeper · 05-21-08, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by easyG

So when do we get to see it already?

See what?

11-20-07, 08:04 PM	#31
ERG80 H8 addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: TN TLCA# 17736 Posts: 719	I like it. Also interested to see a rear bumper. __________________ ERG80 T O Y O T A 1996 FZJ-80 123K, Locked, Pin7+CDL, ARB front Hella'd, Metal Tech Sliders, IPOR skid, 35" Cooper STT's, 17" Sequoia rims, Slee 4".

11-20-07, 08:28 PM	#33
ginericLC IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MH, IDaho TLCA# 7328 Posts: 3,123	Chad, Here is what I think I guess I wasn't there in person enough to pester Mark. Ask him how many emails I sent him. 3 years of pestering! And yes, I love it. Personally I think a 12k winch is over rated for an 80. Tuck in a Warn XD9000 without the integrated solenoids. Mount the pack under the hood and be happy. By the way, Woody limits us to 20 images in our messages or I'd have more Eric V. __________________ Eric V. TLCA 7328 99 UZJ100 "Barnacle Edition" under construction FJ68 PROJECT (60 body, 80 Chassis and Running Gear) 74 FJ15 (that is about all that is left of it) WAGON PARTS FS http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=189134 ADIDALC "real environmentalists don't pave roads" "dents are like tattoos with better stories" www.WildWildWestArt.com

11-20-07, 09:09 PM	#35
C6H12O6 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon TLCA# 16307 Posts: 763	Holy crap! Angus Young is your brother? __________________ If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly. Steve the Fly Fishing Science Teacher 1995 FZJ80 ~ Lockers, winchless ARB, 2.5" OME, bent-up, rattling, leaky Borla exhaust, MetalTech Sliders, multiple oil leaks, 285 Revos. http://web.mac.com/stevenlent/cruiser/cruiser.html

11-20-07, 09:18 PM	#36
Land Speeder per DanKunz: Grain Fed Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Look Behind You... Posts: 1,731	You got a good-looking bumper there sir. For those wanting to see the design without a stinger.... I had Brad at Painless Fab build this for me after deciding that my Slee bumper was way too heavy and wanted more clearance. I ended up cutting even higher and Brad matched the cuts with the bottom tube.... This design is the best at being light and minimalist. With minor modifications it can accept a winch. I love it. I expect to see more of these style bumpers in the coming years as we continue to wheel the crap out of our rigs and expect more clearance. __________________ Eric Hagan - Auburn, Alabama Manufactured 3/90, frame stamp 0001746 '91 FJ80 - 'Cattywampus' - Doors, hood, wheels, rear "split" hatch, front seats, rear seats, headliner, sunroof, ignition, too many other things to mention... My IH8MUD Garage My ROTW

11-21-07, 09:22 AM	#39
MDarius IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern Utah, Roy Posts: 699	I don't know, I like and I don't like. To me it's like showing off the 80's underwear. All the little welds and bends, hardware and unfinished steel edges. I like the looks of a closed bumper, but I certainly appreciate the benefits of tubing. __________________ "That was the best trip EVER!" - most commonly heard phrase from the back seat since getting the 80 -White 95 FZJ80 \| Specs: CDL, OME 2.5'' Med lift, Bridgestone Revos 265/75R16 -Green '94 \| Locked and stock...Sold! -Discovering the West one trail at a time.

11-21-07, 10:39 AM	#41
Atoyot1031 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aspen, CO TLCA# 18402 Posts: 943	Tube bumpers rock! Nice job, if there's a price I would consider especially if it were a weld together kit. I am working on one similar to the Frankie's design with Adam from 4xinnovations. It's fun stuff!

11-21-07, 11:09 AM	#42
Box Rocket IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: I'm a Utah-rd! TLCA# 7476 Posts: 667	Not being critical at all, I like the design a lot, but what is the thinking with airbag compatibility? Just curious. Doesn't matter to me since my '93 doesn't have airbags, but I'd still like to know if the airbags really don't matter with something like this or if this will still work just fine. __________________ Adam Tolman "Uh......I'm going to need you to sit Indian style for this." '93 FZJ80 "Nemo"

11-22-07, 11:15 AM	#46
83white IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Boulder CO Posts: 215	count me in on a order...

11-22-07, 03:53 PM	#47
douglashuft IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pacifica CA TLCA# 13623 Posts: 293	I like it a lot over the arb. As much as I hate the the "football helmet face guard look", I would like to see a hoop wrap around over the headlights and turn signals. It might offer protection to some parts that are not going to be chopped off and would further reinforce the ends. __________________ Doug -Bone stock 94 22re mini (except for bumpers, sliders, skidplates, rear locker, 1" body lift w/trimmed fenders and 33" tires. IFS still works -Locked 93 fzj80, OME medium, deflared/linered, metaltech sliders, 285's, family tent trailer tow vehicle -She got the 89 fj62, I got the house

05-21-08, 02:10 PM	#49
Nay IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Learning Cliff TLCA# 16030 Posts: 2,113	Where the hell was yours on that Can Opener flop? I thought it was welded on... __________________ 1995 FZJ80 - F.O.R. 3.5" lift - 35" trxus MT - 5.29's - Custom SROR Tube Bumpers - De-plasticized - Dented - Dieted

05-21-08, 03:34 PM	#53
easyG IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 79	So when do we get to see it already? __________________ ____________________________________________ Here's to life... 97 locked 40 th Anniversary 04 Mazda 3 5 door 96 Chevy 3500 2wd crew cab 4 SALE 93 Chevy 2wd reg cab 91 Honda Accord