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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Newark, CA
Posts: 486
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Here are my #'s after replacing the entire cooling system (1997 w/ 135k miles)
Normal driving: Flat freeway/city streets, lots of stop and go. Water Temps range from 186-193F. Once parked, the temps max out at 202F. __________________ '97 FZJ80 "Blue Ox" - ARB Bullbar, ARB Lockers, OME J's, George's LEDs, Custom Drawer, Kaymar with Tire Carrier, Hanna Quality Sliders, Hellroaring Dual-Batt, 35" Toyo OC, and more! 2000 UZJ100 "Grey Ghost" - Outback Rack, Sliders, 285 Nitto Terra Grapplers, Norcal 80s Sticker |
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#92 |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 806
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Hi guys,
What's your idling charging voltage? Mine varies quite a bit...14.5V during start-ups, around 13.5 during stop & go traffic. The lowest was 12.5V in gear at stoplights ![]() I expect normal charging voltage to be from 13.5V-14.5V but interested in what others are. Please post yours! P.S: The truck has 114K miles with original alternator. I did have a completely discharged battery (key in ignition "On" position for days - my bad) before collecting those data so I'm not totally sure it mattered or not. __________________ '97 LX450 - Triple locks - fully loaded 2.5" lift OME851/860 springs + Bilstein B46-1477/1478 shocks - 285/75/16 Bridgestone AT Revo - 3M lense protectors - Hella 100FF driving lights - blinking side markers |
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#93 |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 9
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Does the Scangauge II display the readiness monitors and tell you which ones are/are not set?
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lakewood, WA
Posts: 301
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Group Buy Is Dead
I tried to order this last weekend and the group buy function has been removed. You can still order one through the site but it is $159.99.
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__________________ 1997 40th #3229, Antique Sage, Locked, Stock Height, LT265/75/16 Terra Grapplers Next Mod: ARB Bumper, OME Stock Height, and Custom Step-Sliders ![]() Awaiting install: factory fog light harness, factory switches (seat heater and CDL), and hood vents. |
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#95 |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Saratoga Lake NY
Posts: 742
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I'm interested in buying one as well, anything new on this topic?
also, I don't see an add to scan gage's support page concerning Toyota yet. Unless you count the Prius. __________________ Pat Doyle 1994 White FZJ 80, CDL switch. rear winch hitch attachment .-SOLD 1996 White FZJ 80, seats 7,leathered up, CDL,Locked,LandTanks MAF.2" OME lift/Shocks. Last edited by PDoyle; 11-10-07 at 08:28 AM. |
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__________________ 1996 FZJ 80, 1973 FJ 40 |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 806
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Cheers, Frank. __________________ '97 LX450 - Triple locks - fully loaded 2.5" lift OME851/860 springs + Bilstein B46-1477/1478 shocks - 285/75/16 Bridgestone AT Revo - 3M lense protectors - Hella 100FF driving lights - blinking side markers |
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#98 |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Twin Cities
Posts: 216
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Has anyone been able to improve gas mileage with their 80 using the scangauge by adjusting the "nut" behind the wheel?
![]() See review here: http://www.andybrain.com/archive/scangauge-review.htm He's basically saying that he's able to drive more conservatively by adjusting the amount of lead in his foot according to what the Scangauge mpg readout is in his Saturn. Granted, I used to have a Saturn SC2 and I could drive it like I stole it or like my great grandmother and I'd still get great gas mileage, just that the range was larger than with the 80. __________________ 1985 FJ60 Stock *SOLD* 1997 LX450 Locked and Stock 1973 VW Super Beetle 1987 Honda CMX250 2005 Subaru Impreza RS (DD) 2005 Subaru Forester (Wife's DD) |
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#99 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: LA, CA
Posts: 1,286
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flem- trying that on my 80 now and will let you know if it makes a difference. It is surprising how good the instantaneous fuel economy is on a flat road around 40-65mph (reads 16-22+mpg), but even a slight incline and it all goes to hell.
As for coolant temps, at around 60-70F ambient, I am seeing a range of 184-190F with IA around 100F- this is with a landtank-modded fan clutch. __________________ Ex-'93 LC Owner; Now w/ '97 LX, no lockers. Bought 7/02 stock w/35k mi. Now at 101k mi w/ARB bar, OME 850/860, Revo 285s, SS brake lines, Silicone PHH, Breather Ext, PCV Catchcan, CDL, ScanGauge2, Alpine GPS/VehicleHub, Aux Fan, landtank-fanclutch-mod, Slee Speedo, Mobil 1. Soon: sliders, TJM locker |
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#100 |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 640
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This is the coolest thing ever. I decided to order one after reading this thread and just got it today. Haven't hooked it up my LC80 at home yet, but I did hook it up to my work rig, an '05 Blazer and it rocks!
Looks to be very well made and software is very well thought out and extremely easy to use. Who designed this thing and the software deserves some serious kudos. I can't wait to set it up in my Land Cruiser! Heck, it's even made in the USA, which is a HUGE plus. __________________ 1995 FZJ80, modified for regional expeditions. Click here for more... My main website: In Search of History Expeditions Foreign Toyota 4x4s Military Toyota 4x4s Last edited by Brian894X4; 11-17-07 at 05:41 AM. |
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#101 |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 640
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I ran it tonight in the 80 and added the Xguage feature. I guess the only gauge that we can really use at this point is the HP, which brings up a question. How does it measure HP and how accurate is it?
After setting everything up, I found that at idle, I would see as low as 7 h.p. which seems reasonable to a high of 245 h.p. at about 4500 rpm under a full load, which seems a little much. It seems to spike to 245 for a split second then settle down to around 235 in the mid 4000 rpm range. Of course, this is only for a few seconds, so its hard to get a good accurate reading. The highest GPH I saw was 14.5, I think. The mileage feature was interesting. It confirmed something I suspected, that gas mileage even at a nice steady 25-35 mph completely sucks. I always thought it would be better, whenever I drive at lower speeds, my gas mileage in horrible. Get it up on the highway at 55-60 and its much improved. I'll be interested to see how things fare with GPH and MPH on the highway at different cruise speeds like 60 or 70 or 80 mph. I noticed that MAP doesn't work on the 80. It did on my Chevy work rig. My only regret that I wish I could read more than 4 gauges at a time. Just out of curiosity it is possible to run two of these things off the same OBD plug? And here's hoping they can get the Toyota transmission temp codes to work. BTW, has anyone with a supercharger or other mods tried out the HP? I wonder what other people's maximums have turned out to be. __________________ 1995 FZJ80, modified for regional expeditions. Click here for more... My main website: In Search of History Expeditions Foreign Toyota 4x4s Military Toyota 4x4s |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,449
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Was wondering why they cannot pull the same information as a Toyota tech would ie: with the Toyota handtester? ie: thought that all the Toyota software was released a year ago?
Can this be hooked up to a laptop, and display more information? g __________________ 1985 FJ60 (Fairey OD) 1988 FJ62 1996 FZJ80 (lockers) |
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#103 |
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IH8MUD Addict
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The cable that connects to the Scangauge is an ethernet cable (RJ 45?). I don't know what would happen if you hooked it up to a laptop though.
__________________ Adam 96 LC, OME 851/860, BFG AT 285, Metaltech sliders, IPOR skid, Yellowbox, Landtank seat brackets & MAF, ScangaugeII, Slee harnesses with HIRs & Hella 500s, CDL & Pin 7, George's LEDs, Slee-located washer bottle, 'MUD sticker OME CC bushings for sale
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#104 |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 15
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You'll enjoy that scan gage! The different measurements are cool. You can calibrate it to your tire size (with a bit of math) so you can get true MPG.
I like it so I can clear the check engine light code when it pops up from time to time. That orange dash MIL lamp annoys me at night!!! __________________ -Fitzer 1997 FZJ80 |
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IH8MUD Regular
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Yes. Or at least I'm more aware of my habits, which we all know, but rarely change. I did a loop last week from Bangor Maine to southern New Hampshire (to Cruiser Solutions) then to Burlington Vermont and back on rt 2 through the White Mountains. The scanguage is a gentle (painful?) reminder of my right foot. I found myself lifting earlier to crest summits and being more gentle leaving intersections. Gas milegae was 15.2, which is higher than my usual average of 14.5. But when I'm charging uphill passing those logging trucks, O/D off and Power On, the scanguage reminds me that is 2.4 mpg, and as I crest the hill and coast off-throttle, it ramps up to 25, 35, and then defaults to 9999 mpg, which always makes me laugh. Until I engage the right foot again, and reality hits. Gas mileage and an overall trip computer is fun to be aware of, but the guage remains most valuable for specific water temp and self-diagnosing CEL codes. Those are the two main features I wanted to have in the field. mike __________________ 1996 FZJ80 not-locked, Emu 861/862, ARB, Slee sliders and skids, 285 Nitto TGs, Scan Gauge, hopefully exploring somewhere in North America. www.purplelizard.com |
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#106 |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 13
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Just out of curiousity, have any of you noted what the scangauge reads for Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) when you are not on the gas pedal? Mine scangauge reads 8 when at idle or not on the gas pedal. In the manual for the scangauge it says some cars go TPS 0-100, others are above 0 when no throttle is applied and less than 100 at full throttle.
Just wondering what others are seeing for the 80 series? __________________ 1997 FZJ80 - Desert Dune |
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#107 |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Oregon
Posts: 640
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Mine has been reading around 10 when closed. I'm guessing the throttle plate is never fully closed when the engine is running.
__________________ 1995 FZJ80, modified for regional expeditions. Click here for more... My main website: In Search of History Expeditions Foreign Toyota 4x4s Military Toyota 4x4s |
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#108 |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 37
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Just got mine
I love it...My mileage has gone from 15 to 19 in a week. I did just replace my O2 sensors about the same time. I am still learning all the features but is does let you know how to adjust your driving habits.
__________________ 97 40th 236K Stock 98 Boxster 67K (Wifes)
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#109 |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 501
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i just ordered one.... where is the best place to learn how to use this bad boy!!
__________________ 1997 80 Cruiser w/ lockers, 285/75r16, ARB w/ Warn9000, 2.5" Slee Lift Calgary, Alberta Canada |
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They come with a pretty detailed booklet. Lets you know how to properly program it and show true values. Like making up for larger tires and the such.
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 15
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I must have an older version of the scangage from 2 years ago. Same functions it looks like, just slightly smaller. I used velcro on the top of the scan gage and placed anti-velcro under the ash tray area, seems to be a good spot. I like the trick of unscrewing the OBD connector to get the fuse cover back on, keep those fuses dust free. I like the MPG per tank and per trip, of course adjusted for larger tires scangage style. I guess the OBDII is an anvantage that the '95-'97's have.
__________________ -Fitzer 1997 FZJ80 |
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#112 |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 152
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Could any of you with a scangauge tell me what temps you get if after driving, you idle for 10 minutes in "DRIVE" ?
__________________ Regards, Frank 93 80 series 4.5L Twin Cam Petrol with lots of accessories and mods Check out the Digital Engine Temp Gauge w/Alarm to overcome OEM DEAD SPOT |
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Driving around town I am at 184 F. I have only seen it above this once (195F) and it was a long trip that inviolved I-70 west of Denver. I am sure my recent rebuild has helped with the lower temps. And I know other trucks that run a bit higher.
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#114 |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 152
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Hi Ruadhrigh,
If you sit in "Drive" with foot on the brake for 10 minutes, does your temperature rise? If so - what to? Mine doesn't rise in Park or Neutral - but in Drive, it seems to go up quite a lot if I sit there for 10 minutes in Drive Frank __________________ Regards, Frank 93 80 series 4.5L Twin Cam Petrol with lots of accessories and mods Check out the Digital Engine Temp Gauge w/Alarm to overcome OEM DEAD SPOT |
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
Posts: 10,190
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if you are in drive and stopped, you are spending power heating up the ATF so for sure your engine temp should go up to a higher equilibrium temp than in N -if the thermostat is already all the way open. If it's not all the way open, then you may not see the difference in engine coolant temp.
__________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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I will try this out for you. I am guessing you want the truck to already be at operating temp?
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#117 |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 152
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Hi Ruadhrigh,
Yes - that is 10 minutes in Drive after it is already at operating temp - Thanks VERY MUCH! |