Change air filter without cracking air intake duct?

e9999 · 05-12-04, 10:41 AM

will want to change air filter soon. But when I had a quick look it seemed like the lid wouldn't lift very much without resistance. Now I remember reading about warnings not to damage the intake duct which apparently will crack (underneath the bellows maybe?).
So, are there tricks to opening the box and changing the air filter with the least risk of damaging the air intake? Like disconnecting this or that, twisting this that way, or rubbing some special oil while laying hands and chanting some mantra?

thanks in advance
Eric
added: oh, yes, for you-know-who's benefit: I did run a search...!

nakman · 05-12-04, 11:22 AM

Pretty easy to just take it off. Unplug the airflow sensor, then loosen the hose clamp up near the throttle body and you can remove the whole works in about 1 minute. There's one other cable support to unhook, it will be obvious. Then you can inspect your bellows area for cracks as you're wiping the inside clean with a rag..

RavenTai · 05-12-04, 11:27 AM

yep, take the throttle cable out of its resting notch, take off the MAF plug and unclip the cruse control cable from the support bracket (last two not required for filter replacement but easier if you do) undo all the air cleaner thumb clamps and wing nut leave the air cleaner cover in place for now, loosen the duct clamp at the Throttle body end.

slide the duct and upper air cleaner assembly off the throttle body (towards trucks right) lifting only high enough to clear the stud in the air cleaner,

if it has not been removed in a wile it may want to stick to the throttle body so be gentle with it, if it will not slide off try slight rotation, if not then try sliding a dull thin object (like a butter knife or if you are skilled a 90* pick) between the duct and TB to break the hold careful not to cut or stretch the duct,

nakman · 05-12-04, 11:34 AM

Yeah, the cruise control cable, that's it.. thanks Raven. Also Eric don't forget to clean out the tuna can!

DanKunz · 05-12-04, 12:13 PM

I would say that if you intake is hard enough (brittle) to crack if you replace your air filter that you should go ahead and replace those parts at the same time.

If it is hard and brittle, you probably have enough smaller cracks to impact performance anyway.

My 2 cents...

Eduardo96FZJ80 · 05-12-04, 01:52 PM

Does anyone know what a smart shopper would pay for such an item?

Sounds like another reasonably priced part for the list ! thanks for the info

tucker74 · 05-12-04, 02:01 PM

A certain parts guy up in NM sold me one for $66 a couple of months ago

Tucker

cruiserdan · 05-12-04, 02:08 PM

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Does anyone know what a smart shopper would pay for such an item?

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Can't think of a soul

About $66.19 for 93-97. There are two different versions, one for 93-94 and one for 95-97. The price is the same.

93-4 17881-66060
95-7 17881-66080

chiz45 · 05-12-04, 06:04 PM

Mine was cracked, got it from my local dealer for $93. Cheapest in town from 4 different Toyo dealers.

cruiserdan · 05-12-04, 06:11 PM

About 5 bucks higher than Toyota's suggested retail price. :-\

I guess I'm too cheap

landtank · 05-12-04, 08:31 PM

There's nothing us bottom feeders like more than a part whore.

We all love Ya Dan

e9999 · 05-15-04, 01:10 PM

Well, just did it.
Trivial. Nothing to it if the intake hose is not brittle.
As mentioned above, removed the 2 obvious cables, the connector and its cable holder, undid the 2 hose clamps, lifted the lid just the minimum to clear the stud, pulled gently, all came out. My rubber still soft. No crack visible. Put some ArmorAll on hose to help keep it soft (maybe, if not at least it's pretty). New filter. Cleaned inside, bit of vacuuming, all set to go. Spent more time cleaning the inside and outside of hose than disassembling / reassembling.
Next time, can do it all in less than 15 mins I think.
1/2

but worth being careful in case the hose is brittle... Main thing is not to try to lift the filter lid without undoing the hose, that could crack things I imagine!
thanks all
Eric

MoJ · 05-15-04, 03:22 PM

Mine didn't seem brittle either when I removed it a few weeks ago.

Got me wondering if there was any sort of moisturizer that could be applied to it to keep it from getting brittle. ???

boydmick · 05-15-04, 05:39 PM

I bet you could get some at Neiman-Marcus. Send your wife, have her ask for "intake moisturizer" - they must have something that will work!

Seriously though, a high quality rubber protectant should help keep that sucker soft and supple.

RavenTai · 05-15-04, 07:41 PM

not sure I trust Armor all, some say it is great others say it cracks plastic and rubber

used Vaseline on mine, I don't know if that will help or hurt the tube (I'll let you know in 100K) but it is a commonly spec to lubricate rubber parts I use at work

e9999 · 05-15-04, 10:33 PM

I'll refrain from making the obvious comment...

(but it's hard...)
:-X
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RavenTai · 05-15-04, 10:51 PM

just re read that it does sound really bad, was not suppose to sound like that :slap:

MoJ · 05-16-04, 09:50 AM

Geez, will you guys grow up and get a grip :slap: :-X

e9999 · 05-16-04, 09:57 AM

errr, could have used a better choice of words, MoJ
what's with you all Freudian slippers?
:-X
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rdublin · 08-13-05, 12:09 AM

303 works well on rubber parts - supposedly restores the volatile oils in the rubber. I restored a dried-out, but not cracked, dash pad from a '74 40 by soaking it down with 303 and wrapping it in plastic wrap for a week. Came out like new.

JerseyCruiser · 06-02-06, 07:09 PM

I learned the hard way! $121.00!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the new hose The old one was so hard it cracked as I lifted the lid. Its worth the extra effort to rmove the 1st hose clamp.

cruiserdan · 06-02-06, 07:29 PM

U paid a tad too much there......

JerseyCruiser · 06-02-06, 07:45 PM

I know the dealer screwd me. What else could I have done?

FirstToy · 06-02-06, 10:13 PM

gscherer, the man you are talking to cruiserdan "parts shaman" is a Toyota parts guru.
If you need anything PM him for great prices

btw, keep your old intake if it is repairable. Mine had a split in the usual place but repaired w/ rtv & tape (worked great until I got a new one from c dan).

If in the future the new one cracks or whatever, my backup is there.

RAYJON · 06-02-06, 10:30 PM

I have an easy solution, buy another cruiser... easy parts source... I just have to drive the truck for a few days till the parts show up......

JerseyCruiser · 06-07-06, 03:15 PM

I've talked with Dan after the purchase from my "stealership" and found his prices are great! Next time. I chucked the old hose it was hard as a rock being over the manifold for 13 years is not good for rubber.

Thanx

Ting · 10-11-06, 02:09 PM

Bump -
What brand of Air filter do you guys use?

Sno bored · 10-11-06, 02:15 PM

The one that cruiserdan sent me

Grench · 10-11-06, 03:07 PM

I have been using Wicks Air (special order) & Oil (51515 IIRC) filters. After I'm done with my existing supply I'll probably switch over to using Dan's OEM sourced ones. Whatever you do, don't buy the cheap ones at the parts store and don't let iffy lube or the like give you a standard filter. Its cheap engine insurance to get decent ones IMHO.

Ting · 10-11-06, 03:15 PM

Dan - You got a PM