Shaky DS mirror fix

nodaksn3 · 05-10-07, 11:41 AM

After three years of shaking, my DS mirror finally let go. The first warm day, while driving with the window down, I noticed a distinct rattling coming from somewhere. Turned out to be the mirror. Tried tightening the screw at the bottom, but it wouldn't get tight, just slightly snug. Next day it was loose again. Took it off, and pulled out the mirror. Turned out one of the "wings" was broken, and the screw hole was cracked. Tried a fix with super glue and wire, but the glue wouldn't hold on that type of plastic. In desperation I went to the local pick and pull, where they have a really bashed in '93. No luck, as the DS mirror was destroyed, and the PS side had the same problem ( they are NOT interchangeable, I found out).

Right next to it was a '95 $runner, with an intact DS mirror. Took it apart and lo! It has basically the same motor, and it was intact.

nodaksn3 · 05-10-07, 11:47 AM

It didn't have wire plugs like my '80, so I had to snip off the wires. Cost $20. Took it home, and disassembled it, and discovered the motor internals turned out to be identical to mine, except for the plugs. A simple swap of the two internal motors and wiring completed the changes, and aside from a couple of glitches reassembling the thing, it came out perfect.

No more shaking. If anyone would like, I could post a few pics (if I could figure out how), with some reassembly tips. A

job.

Ned

TX80Fan · 05-10-07, 11:50 AM

My mirror had a broken tab as well...however, the other side was in place. To fix, I just took out the mirror and let it hang while I 'snotted' up the bracket / tab area with black RTV silicone and then reset the mirror in-place, installed bottom screw to hold in-place and let dry. I haven't had any 'shaking' problems since and it still is functional. Try it...worked like a champ for me!

tech_dog · 05-10-07, 12:37 PM

This is a pretty common problem. Here's a link to a thread with pix and descriptions of some of the fixes people have done: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...shakey+mirrors

podiev · 05-10-07, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nodaksn3

....If anyone would like, I could post a few pics (if I could figure out how), with some reassembly tips. A

job.

Ned

Please post pics- am interested in the disassembly/reassembyl of the mirror internals.

mason · 05-10-07, 09:17 PM

My DS mirror in in the garage with JB drying the broken tab. Great stuff.

619TOY · 05-10-07, 09:25 PM

Epoxy might be a better choice than super glue. I recently repaired mine with some JB weld and a couple of #4 screws. Just remove the bottom screw and remove the mirror ( keep track of the wires as they're all seperate) then simulate what the factory did with the epoxy instead. I can't seem to find a pic right now but I'll continue to look.

619TOY · 05-10-07, 09:38 PM

Found 'em:

cool breeze · 05-14-07, 03:34 PM

just got done replacing my motor assy with a 95 4runner. The hardest part was finding the mirrow, very easy install. I had to buy the whole ds mirror even though all i needed was the motor piece.

For wiring issues all i did was replace the motors, using my old LC motor with wire and connects. Everything fits into the 4runner's assy. didnt take any pics and after doing it there are really none needed.

'74 UA FJ · 07-14-08, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mason

My DS mirror in in the garage with JB drying the broken tab. Great stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 619TOY

Epoxy might be a better choice than super glue. I recently repaired mine with some JB weld and a couple of #4 screws. Just remove the bottom screw and remove the mirror ( keep track of the wires as they're all seperate) then simulate what the factory did with the epoxy instead. I can't seem to find a pic right now but I'll continue to look.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 619TOY

Found 'em:

I just did this to my mirror on Friday. Does anyone have any data regarding how long the jb weld holds? I am just curious.

teejnut · 07-14-08, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by '74 UA FJ

I just did this to my mirror on Friday. Does anyone have any data regarding how long the jb weld holds? I am just curious.

No data... but mine started shaking again after awhile. Then my DS mirror got damaged on the trail (it would swivel around) so I just replaced it with one on ebay. ~$70 for an entire new assembly with mirror, housing, and motor, plug-n-play.

FJason80 · 08-28-08, 12:40 PM

My DS mirror is beyond repair. it was ghetto fixed by the PO, but now its pretty much dead. What is the part number for the inner part, with the motor and swivels in it? I can't find any cheap option on ebay, so i think i'll order it from CDAn. somebody halp!

619TOY · 08-28-08, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by '74 UA FJ

I just did this to my mirror on Friday. Does anyone have any data regarding how long the jb weld holds? I am just curious.

If you used the screws as well, it should last quite a while. Mine is still fine after many, many off road trips including Moab and the Rubicon.

mikedamageinc · 08-29-08, 05:14 AM

Does anyone have any suggestions for testing the motor?

My PS mirror was loose so I took it off to try to fix it, reassembled with no improvement and now the motor doesnt seem to work.

Nailhead · 08-29-08, 11:25 AM

Does anyone know where I can get the part that the mirror is in with an intact mirror?
I fixed my tabs and when I was putting the pin that holds the mirror to the motor assembly together I broke the glass.

buttonman · 08-29-08, 01:13 PM

my 91 had a broken wing on the DS mirror plate. i was able to find a plastic kit from the hardware store that actually allowed me to mold a brand new wing. some card board and scotch tape held with pins for the mold and a little dremel tool shaping afterwards and it was good as new. the plactic kit has coloured plastic powder and the liquid catalyst plus some molding putty all for about 10 bucks. it works good on most plactics and really helps mending cracks.
according to the package it is available in larger sizes for the bigger jobs.
the great thing about this stuff is that it cures rock hard in a hour and sticks to existing plastic.
if anyone wants the brand name i can look in my garage tonight and post the name
cheers

AndoCommando · 08-31-08, 08:55 PM

My d/s mirror has been shaky since I bought it a year ago. Blew off in the car wash yesterday and landed in the tire guide of the wash. All i could do was watch the back wheel drive over the mirror!

Fix your mirrors boys...fix your mirrors.

05-10-07, 11:41 AM	#1
nodaksn3 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Andover, Mass. Posts: 254	Shaky DS mirror fix After three years of shaking, my DS mirror finally let go. The first warm day, while driving with the window down, I noticed a distinct rattling coming from somewhere. Turned out to be the mirror. Tried tightening the screw at the bottom, but it wouldn't get tight, just slightly snug. Next day it was loose again. Took it off, and pulled out the mirror. Turned out one of the "wings" was broken, and the screw hole was cracked. Tried a fix with super glue and wire, but the glue wouldn't hold on that type of plastic. In desperation I went to the local pick and pull, where they have a really bashed in '93. No luck, as the DS mirror was destroyed, and the PS side had the same problem ( they are NOT interchangeable, I found out). Right next to it was a '95 $runner, with an intact DS mirror. Took it apart and lo! It has basically the same motor, and it was intact. __________________ '95 FJZ80- stock, not locked, PHH, HG, love it '80 FJ40- stock, '84 2F, mini PS, a/c, still lotsa rust, sold '88 FJ62- sold '84 FJ60- sold '81 FJ40- sold '71 FJ40 w/factory winch-sold "Don't pole vault over rat turds"

05-10-07, 11:47 AM	#2
nodaksn3 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Andover, Mass. Posts: 254	It didn't have wire plugs like my '80, so I had to snip off the wires. Cost $20. Took it home, and disassembled it, and discovered the motor internals turned out to be identical to mine, except for the plugs. A simple swap of the two internal motors and wiring completed the changes, and aside from a couple of glitches reassembling the thing, it came out perfect. No more shaking. If anyone would like, I could post a few pics (if I could figure out how), with some reassembly tips. A job. Ned __________________ '95 FJZ80- stock, not locked, PHH, HG, love it '80 FJ40- stock, '84 2F, mini PS, a/c, still lotsa rust, sold '88 FJ62- sold '84 FJ60- sold '81 FJ40- sold '71 FJ40 w/factory winch-sold "Don't pole vault over rat turds"

05-10-07, 11:50 AM	#3
TX80Fan IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: State of Flux... Posts: 342	My mirror had a broken tab as well...however, the other side was in place. To fix, I just took out the mirror and let it hang while I 'snotted' up the bracket / tab area with black RTV silicone and then reset the mirror in-place, installed bottom screw to hold in-place and let dry. I haven't had any 'shaking' problems since and it still is functional. Try it...worked like a champ for me! __________________ 1997 FZJ80 CE, 6M1 'BOOGER' GREEN, 103k orig. miles , Baselined, ARB, SuperWinch 12.5, OEM Hand Throttle, HIR's, SROR custom sliders, CDL/Pin 7, Slee TC Skid Plate, OME 2.5" 850/860 w/CC, Toyo 285's w/1.5" spacers, Hi-Lift 'Extreme', PIAA 520's, HD port. air comp., Slee cup holder...

05-10-07, 09:17 PM	#6
mason IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new mexico Posts: 234	My DS mirror in in the garage with JB drying the broken tab. Great stuff. __________________ 96 FZJ-80, 285 BFG ATs, unlocked. HG 7/26/07 @ 137,700. "The less a man makes declarative statements, the less apt he is to look foolish in retrospect." -Quentin Tarantino

05-10-07, 09:25 PM	#7
619TOY IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,080	Epoxy might be a better choice than super glue. I recently repaired mine with some JB weld and a couple of #4 screws. Just remove the bottom screw and remove the mirror ( keep track of the wires as they're all seperate) then simulate what the factory did with the epoxy instead. I can't seem to find a pic right now but I'll continue to look. __________________ Steve '97 LX 450 with Slee 6", 35" Toyo's, Slee front, 4X4 Labs rear, Hanna sliders, 5.29's, front and rear chromoly axles and the two Dober's: Zeus and Zoey

05-10-07, 12:37 PM	#4
tech_dog IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,142	This is a pretty common problem. Here's a link to a thread with pix and descriptions of some of the fixes people have done: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...shakey+mirrors __________________ 1994 FZJ80 - Original Owner, dual battery, 2.5" OME Heavy/Medium, 295/75/16 Terra Grapplers, Slee front and rear bumpers, dimmable Lightforce 170s, Hanna Sliders, Slee transfer case skid plate, Warn 9.5XP, LED interior lights, Slee interior spare tire carrier, yellow box, orange dot mod 2006 LX470 - Original Owner, Daily Drive, no mods

05-10-07, 09:38 PM	#8
619TOY IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,080	Found 'em: Attached Images __________________ Steve '97 LX 450 with Slee 6", 35" Toyo's, Slee front, 4X4 Labs rear, Hanna sliders, 5.29's, front and rear chromoly axles and the two Dober's: Zeus and Zoey

05-14-07, 03:34 PM	#9
cool breeze IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 668	just got done replacing my motor assy with a 95 4runner. The hardest part was finding the mirrow, very easy install. I had to buy the whole ds mirror even though all i needed was the motor piece. For wiring issues all i did was replace the motors, using my old LC motor with wire and connects. Everything fits into the 4runner's assy. didnt take any pics and after doing it there are really none needed.

08-28-08, 12:40 PM	#12
FJason80 pwn n00bs Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Truckee, Tahoe, CA TLCA# 17089 Posts: 414	My DS mirror is beyond repair. it was ghetto fixed by the PO, but now its pretty much dead. What is the part number for the inner part, with the motor and swivels in it? I can't find any cheap option on ebay, so i think i'll order it from CDAn. somebody halp! __________________ 93 FZJ80 - Locked, ARB front, MileMarker 12k Winch, Kaymar Rear, OME 2.5, 33" MTRs, LightForces, Safari Snorkel, Slee Wiring Harness, etc.

08-29-08, 05:14 AM	#14
mikedamageinc IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 35	Does anyone have any suggestions for testing the motor? My PS mirror was loose so I took it off to try to fix it, reassembled with no improvement and now the motor doesnt seem to work. __________________ 1997 TLC - J's, L's, 37" GY MTRs, Locked, ARB'd. 1996 TLC - Emerald Green/Moonglow grey, CDL/Pin 7, Auto up, Temp gauge mod - For Sale http://members.cardomain.com/mikedamageinc

08-29-08, 01:13 PM	#16
buttonman IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: british columbia canada Posts: 6	my 91 had a broken wing on the DS mirror plate. i was able to find a plastic kit from the hardware store that actually allowed me to mold a brand new wing. some card board and scotch tape held with pins for the mold and a little dremel tool shaping afterwards and it was good as new. the plactic kit has coloured plastic powder and the liquid catalyst plus some molding putty all for about 10 bucks. it works good on most plactics and really helps mending cracks. according to the package it is available in larger sizes for the bigger jobs. the great thing about this stuff is that it cures rock hard in a hour and sticks to existing plastic. if anyone wants the brand name i can look in my garage tonight and post the name cheers

08-31-08, 08:55 PM	#17
AndoCommando IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Independence,Mo TLCA# 17823 Posts: 66	My d/s mirror has been shaky since I bought it a year ago. Blew off in the car wash yesterday and landed in the tire guide of the wash. All i could do was watch the back wheel drive over the mirror! Fix your mirrors boys...fix your mirrors.

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