[EricE]

Originally Posted by knorrena

Can VC be recharged, in other words, can the silicone fluid be replaced and rejuvenate the VC?

Karl

I seem to remember that it sealed. So, no.
And its like a $900 part. I am just going from memory though.

[trainrech]

$900 was what I was quoted today from Molle Toyota for the VC.

[riberware]

Is there any CONS with the removal of the VC and leaving the center diff open???

ABS still works after this mod???

I think I have a seized VC, and replacing it is not an option.


Ricky

[CJF]

Originally Posted by riberware

Is there any CONS with the removal of the VC and leaving the center diff open???

Your question makes no sense.

[riberware]

Originally Posted by CJF

Your question makes no sense.

Sorry, let me reformulate.

After deleting the VC the ABS still works ok???



Is there any other car on the market with an open center diff???

- 91-92 cruiser is the only one I know

[Doc]

Originally Posted by riberware

Is there any other car on the market with an open center diff???

- 91-92 cruiser is the only one I know

Nearly every 4x4 ever made has an open center diff. I'm not sure you understand how the diff works.

[riberware]

Originally Posted by Doc

Nearly every 4x4 ever made has an open center diff. I'm not sure you understand how the diff works.

You're wrong, almost every 4x4 is part time 4WD, no center differential.

[riberware]

Originally Posted by MikePL

Another way to find out if your VC is dead is to raise one wheel (tranny in N, transfer case in N). In the N/N position the wheel should move rather freely when you rotate it by hand. If you lock the center differential the wheel should not move (it might have play but you definitely can't make turns).

My HDJ-80 has a LSD rear diff, Does the wheel should move freely no matter the LSD???

I'm looking forward to remove this VC thing today... I hate it

[toylndcrusr]

Riberware: If you have the Center Differential Lock switch you can remove the VC. Otherwise, if you loose traction to one of the axles it will just spin and no traction will go to the one with traction.

[Beowulf]

Originally Posted by riberware

Is there any CONS with the removal of the VC and leaving the center diff open???

Ricky,
This is at least the 4th time in the past 2 days that you have asked this question. You have been given answers each time. You have been given Toyota documents that describe the function and purpose of the Viscous Coupler (VC) in your transfer case.

What more are you looking for? Do you want someone to say, 'Sure Ricky, just pull it out and drive it?'

If that is what you want then.... "Sure Ricky, just pull out the VC and drive it."

-B-

[CJF]

Originally Posted by Doc

Nearly every 4x4 ever made has an open center diff. I'm not sure you understand how the diff works.

Doc, you know better than that...

[CJF]

Originally Posted by toylndcrusr

Riberware: If you have the Center Differential Lock switch you can remove the VC. Otherwise, if you loose traction to one of the axles it will just spin and no traction will go to the one with traction.

Wrong again...

[riberware]

Originally Posted by Beowulf

Ricky,
This is at least the 4th time in the past 2 days that you have asked this question. You have been given answers each time. You have been given Toyota documents that describe the function and purpose of the Viscous Coupler (VC) in your transfer case.

What more are you looking for? Do you want someone to say, 'Sure Ricky, just pull it out and drive it?'

If that is what you want then.... "Sure Ricky, just pull out the VC and drive it."

-B-

Sorry for being an arse hole...

I did the cirgury today, took me 45 minutes, now my cruiser is so smooth!!!!!

And yes now I do have a litle clunk... but I think it's normal...

[Doc]

Originally Posted by CJF

Doc, you know better than that...

OK, my 4WD experience has been limited to jeeps with center diffs. Sorry. I was also thinking about the suby's with center diffs.
There's lots of vehicles with center diffs. I guess maybe not a majority though... I got a bit carried away with that statement.

You know, all of the '4WD' vehicles I've ever owned have had one though.... 2 jeeps, and a mitsubishi. I guess that's not a very big sampling though, 'eh?

[riberware]

Other problem

Now I deleted the VC, ABS and CDL are working great... I was using the car all day, everything fine and I was very very happy with my cruiser today... but like 7 hours later after the cirgury I started to hear a loud and intermitent groaning soung coming from the front end... when I accelerate the sound stops for a while....when I completely stop the car and accelarete the sound dissapears for a while too.

I'm 100% sure it comes from the front end... maybe the spindle bushing is dry, I changed both a week ago, maybe a bearing or a problem with the ABS.... who knows? I'm trying not to loose my patience.

I just hope this new problem got nothing to do with the removal of that darn VC.

I'm starting to hate second hand cruisers. PO sucks!!!!!!

[tntoyota]

Originally Posted by Doc

OK, my 4WD experience has been limited to jeeps with center diffs. Sorry. I was also thinking about the suby's with center diffs.
There's lots of vehicles with center diffs. I guess maybe not a majority though... I got a bit carried away with that statement.

You know, all of the '4WD' vehicles I've ever owned have had one though.... 2 jeeps, and a mitsubishi. I guess that's not a very big sampling though, 'eh?

a Jeep?.....with a what?

You do know that just any transfer case IS NOT a center diff, right?


No, its us that is now sorry, sorry.



THIS is the kinda shit that is killing some of you.

Some new TC's are marketed as AWD or a slight misconception of a misnomer......ALL TRAC!...sport trac, tick tack!...tallywack!

Ultimately they are PT TCs and share the same architecture. WHAT gives them the Bull SHat traction is the activation, most have wheel speed sensors (on all 4 ) and in the instant wheel slippage + or - is detected it basically engages 4WD.


I cant keep doing this I'm burnt out..........


Can someone upload the New Venture/ New Process product line?

Originally Posted by riberware

I'm starting to hate second hand cruisers. PO sucks!!!!!!

well, by all means you happen to be at the right place, we'll all get together sing "coom by yah" and circulate a petition to get good'ol Mr.T to open up his doors, turn back on all the lights and mint you right there on the spot a nice new....BRAND new Fzj80, how's that sound?

.....

[MikePL]

Originally Posted by riberware

...I started to hear a loud and intermitent groaning soung coming from the front end... when I accelerate the sound stops for a while....when I completely stop the car and accelarete the sound dissapears for a while too...
.....
I just hope this new problem got nothing to do with the removal of that darn VC.

If you had a seized VC then probably your front end is toast. While making turns with a seized VC the rear wheels lock and eventually let go, relieving the tension, but the front of the truck is heavy
(due to the engine) and the wheels are less likely to slip. This puts a lot of tension on the front differential and birfs. They are literally twisted.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by tntoyota

a Jeep?.....with a what?

You do know that just any transfer case IS NOT a center diff, right?

I've owned two Jeep's w/ center diffs.

see the following article about one of them: 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo Review - Carsurvey.org

What are you confused about? Jeep made vehicles that had center diffs.

[riberware]

Originally Posted by MikePL

If you had a seized VC then probably your front end is toast. While making turns with a seized VC the rear wheels lock and eventually let go, relieving the tension, but the front of the truck is heavy
(due to the engine) and the wheels are less likely to slip. This puts a lot of tension on the front differential and birfs. They are literally twisted.

the loud groaning noise was a dry spindle bushing, not enough grease... fixed that today....



BTW this is my VC (thanks for the tutorial!!!):

[riberware]

Originally Posted by Doc

I've owned two Jeep's w/ center diffs.

see the following article about one of them: 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo Review - Carsurvey.org

What are you confused about? Jeep made vehicles that had center diffs.

Quadratrac is an example of an old full time 4wd system, can be found on some old CJ-7's

Jeep four wheel drive systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Cj80cruiser]

Originally Posted by Walking Eagle

There is also an 'ear' on the housing, that you can just use a pry bar on on the drivers side, the passenger side there is a point that you can hit with a drift punch. I tried the rubber mallet mehod, that didn't work worth a crap, then I made a little stap holder to mount into one of the threaded holes on the housing and hooked a strap to the frame to try to pull. Nothing. Pry bar on the tab is waht finally did it for me.

borrowed this picture from that thread - the red arrow I added is the tab / 'ear'. I think anyway...

I'm by all means no mechanic but wouldn't it be the tab with the green arrow since it looks more accessible? The red arrow looks like it's postion would be at the top and I'm not sure about getting a pry bar up there and getting leverage. Please, please, please correct me if I'm wrong.

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