[goneballistic]

My wife just got back from trying to register the new LX450 and we failed the inspection process. They are claiming we're at 23% and our minimum is 45%.

This cruiser has been registered in Utah for about 12 years now and now we have it suddenly the tint is too dark?

The shop is claiming the tint is not factory cause it's a little darker than the other windows and it's a film tint, not cast into the glass.

Is this an aftermarket tint or do they tint them with film from the factory? Can someone order darker tint on the pass/driver windows than the rear windows?

I am just not understanding how this rig was passing at other stations for ten years and now two stations in my city are claiming too dark.

I believe we have an exemption for factory tint jobs but unless I can show it's factory, I'm going to have to strip it off.

man this ticks me off. Like there isn't enough work to do and now I gotta go chasing window colors......

[kbellve]

You wouldn't be able to strip factory because it is in the glass. If you can strip it, then it isn't factory. The driver's and passenger's windows aren't tinted on a LX450. Only the rear windows.

[85 SA Toy]

Hey there if it is a film tint it is aftermarket tint...... And on most vehicles the front windows dont come tinted only the rear windows........ An easy solution strip it off get it inspected and get it put back on if you really like the way the tint looks! Good luck with this!

[goneballistic]

Oh this pisses me off. This is the dumbest rule ever. What a PITA

[Grench]

No, its a good rule. It just isn't aesthetically cool.

It can be fairly important for other drivers and pedestrians to be able to see where you are looking and if you can see them. For this, they have to be able to see you.

Get rid of the tint. Smile and wave. You're driving a Land Cruiser. Why hide?

[-Spike-]

It's a dumb rule.

-Spike

[Darwood]

Originally Posted by -Spike-

It's a dumb rule.

-Spike

Especially considering many law enforcement vehicles have very dark tint on the front windows in many states.

So the question has been answered. If it can come off without breaking the glass, it's not factory tint. All factory tint is in the glass.

[cary]

Originally Posted by -Spike-

It's a dumb rule.

-Spike

Start bike riding and see how stupid you think it is when you come to an intersection and you have no idea if the driver sees you, is even looking, or is just asleep at the wheel. After you almost (or actual do) get hit by a few cars with drivers that simply don't see you, you will find it's a pretty damm good rule.

[fzj80kidpen]

Its a stupid law.
Especially considering the police cruisers have darker tint.
We tinted out old volvo so the sun would not bother the kids as much.
Mister Rookie pulls my wife on Sunday morning on her way to church with the kids in her white volvo 960 station wagon and writes her a ticket. Put some little light meter on the front windows and wrote that criminal up. Now my kids don't like cops anymore. I can understand why they don't want the front tinted but the law should be evenly applied. (mini-vans, SUV's and cops exempt) If somone is going to shoot a cop then they will do it whether the windows a tinted or not. A good friend of ours is on SWAT and he even thinks its stupid. Real cops don't write traffic tickets anyway.
We ended up having the front removed. $20
Oh yeah, my front windows on my 80 are tinted and I will probably remove it soon because I don't really like the front tinted anyway.

[cruiserdan]

Originally Posted by cary

Start bike riding and see how stupid you think it is when you come to an intersection and you have no idea if the driver sees you, is even looking, or is just asleep at the wheel. After you almost (or actual do) get hit by a few cars with drivers that simply don't see you, you will find it's a pretty damm good rule.

Or, be a cop that has to approach a deeply tinted vehicle during a traffic stop.

[goneballistic]

Originally Posted by cruiserdan

Or, be a cop that has to approach a deeply tinted vehicle during a traffic stop.

It's a stupid law. When a cop approaches my windows they are rolled down anyway and hands on the wheel. If you want to have dark tint then just require it be rolled down when they stop you or you get ticketed.

I get severe migraines and sunlight and glare is a trigger for me. The lighter tint on the side windows WILL cause me a lot of headache. I can wear glasses for the front but the light from the side gives me issues. I had an older trooper and had to go through the untint/retint every year to keep the light out of my eyes from the side.

My side is at 23% passthrough. People can see me fine and it keeps light levels low enough that I get less headaches.

This is another example of a law passed that punishes me for the actions of someone else. If cops eyes and interior comfort are important, then so is mine.

[cary]

Originally Posted by fzj80kidpen

Its a stupid law.
Especially considering the police cruisers have darker tint.
We tinted out old volvo so the sun would not bother the kids as much.
Mister Rookie pulls my wife on Sunday morning on her way to church with the kids in her white volvo 960 station wagon and writes her a ticket. Put some little light meter on the front windows and wrote that criminal up. Now my kids don't like cops anymore. I can understand why they don't want the front tinted but the law should be evenly applied. (mini-vans, SUV's and cops exempt) If somone is going to shoot a cop then they will do it whether the windows a tinted or not. A good friend of ours is on SWAT and he even thinks its stupid. Real cops don't write traffic tickets anyway.
We ended up having the front removed. $20
Oh yeah, my front windows on my 80 are tinted and I will probably remove it soon because I don't really like the front tinted anyway.

So lets see here, you broke the law and now you pissed that your wife was pulled over for doing so.

She was driving to church? Who cares.
She had the kids in the car? Who cares.

Now you kids hate cops. Why? Perhaps you should tell them the truth, mommy was pulled over because daddy ILLEGALLY tinted the windows. The officer was doing his job.

How did the officer know who he was pulling over or where they were going? Remember, he can't see in the car, he isn't a clarivoiant.

You friend is on the swat team and thinks it is stupid. Thats great, but not relevant. Swat team members don't do traffic stops unless they have a regular patrol beat. What does your friend do when not on swat.

Real cops don't write tickets? What do they do then? So if they pull someone over for speeding, just let them go every time? In that case, why have speeding laws? How should the officer decide when to write tickets. Oh, I guess he should have only written it if it was some punk kid driving, instead of your wife?

In short, grow up and accept responsibility for your actions. You broke the law, your wife got pulled over for it, end of discussion. Be a man and teach your kids to accept the consequences of their actions rather than blame others.


And yes, I someone did shit in my cereal. This is a pet peve of mine. If you fuck up, accept the consequences of your actions.

[cary]

Originally Posted by goneballistic

I get severe migraines and sunlight and glare is a trigger for me. The lighter tint on the side windows WILL cause me a lot of headache. I can wear glasses for the front but the light from the side gives me issues. I

Umm, so what do you do when you walk around? Carry some tint with you. What a bullshit excuse. Get some wraparound sunglasses like oakleys.

[-Spike-]

Dude, relax. It's a stupid law. A law that specifies a certain shade or darkness would be an intelligent law. A law that says 'if it's not factory, it's not allowed' is stupid. Some jackass in a Mercedes can have 35% tinted windows just because they came that way from the factory, but my Camry has to be clear 'cause they came that way? Bullshit. Arizona law specifies what percentage of light must pass through the windshield (100%), front side (35%) rear side (20%) and rear glass (no limit). Those numbers are from memory and may be outdated, but the point is the same. Now, go have a beer and chill. It's a stupid law.

-Spike

[Safado]

Utah law is the same, Clear on the windshield, certain % on the front, and as dark as you want from the diver back.

Stupid Law? I think what he's saying is that if the manufacturer decided to tint the front darker than allowed by Utah law...an exception would be made. From personal experience, that is not the case with an 80, you need to strip the additional tint from your front windows. You've gotten away with it in the past, but it's not working anymore. Utah is cracking down on shops that don't obey the law. If you get sited for your windows...the shop that passed your inspection will also get cited unless they prove you changed it after the inspection.

Cary is dead on once again...you need to take responsibility for your actions and for the impressions you give your kids of rule of law and respect for authority. That's part of raising good kids.

[PHAEDRUS]

quit whining and grab a razor blade.....
Is this a recently aquired 96 lx450 by chance is it??
proper uv block tint done professionally in the right materials will take care of your glare issues and be in compliance with the law. the other fun thing about am window tint is that it gets darker with age, so a truck that passed for ten straight years can fail ont eh 11th due to the tint darkening over time.
Dave

[ed97fzj80]

It's a good law.

Cops need to see into the vehicle. You may roll your windows down so you can be seen, but Mr. Gangbanger doesn't. Blame Mr. G.

You need to be able to see other people, and other people need to see you.

In the event that you or someone else has to break out that window so you can get out in an emergency, that plastic film has just made your glass about a gazillion times harder to bust out.

It's all about safety.

[Isotel]

its a dumb law.. the cops always blind the hell out of you with their spot light anyway..

And tint makes a world of difference for Heat in the summer, UV rays and makes a truck look better too. take it off, have the inspection, then put it back on if you like it!.. should cost you $50 or so..

and a tinted window will break out the same as regular safty glass, but more than likeley come out easier because its all together.. Ever seen a Front winshild Break (its designed to stay together)

Legalize Crime , ok im back to the 40 section, you 80 guys scare me

[Stumpalama]

Spotlight doesn't do so good in daylight.
There's no gray area on this board is there? Light fuse, step away. It's either stupid or it's not.
I'm with Cary on this one... Additionally, I think the law isn't "if it's not factory, its gotta go", it's the level of transparency, as has already been stated.
I do like my tint on the rear windows as it make it harder for people to see what is in the truck.
However, I know a few "Real Cops" that run on the Jersey Turnpike. Man, I wouldn't want their job, it's like a combat zone out there sometimes.
If I were a cop coming up to tinted windows, I'd have my shotgun up and ready. Cop's are instantly at a disadvantage in these situations, if lighter tint saves lives, then I'm all for it.