Opinions on the Nitto Terragrapler A/T?

alia176 · 07-04-06, 11:12 PM

Is anyone running a set of 315s Terragrapler A/Ts? If so, I'd like to hear some thoughts on these tires pls.
-wear
-puncture resistance (sidewall)
-chunking
-noise
-balance
-snow/ice traction
-price

Thanks.

tech_dog · 07-05-06, 01:00 AM

Not exactly what you asked for, but here's a reference point:

Terragrapler 295/75/16

Noise - Definitely noiser than the stock mich, but still very reasonable
Balance - No problems.
Price - $900 for five of them

They're too new to comment on the other qualities.

T.

Dan_J-spec_fj62 · 07-05-06, 03:59 AM

wear seems good..
noise is way quiter than my XZL's
did well playing in the Wisconsin snow... still an AT tire but performed well
in general we love them....

dan

MaddBaggins · 07-05-06, 06:26 AM

Ali, getting rid of the Yokes?
John "offroader5" on MUD is running them in that size. He's a jeep guy who hangs out with Copper State Cruisers. Shoot him a pm.

Bruneti · 07-05-06, 06:57 AM

Another reference point on the Terra Grappler 295/75/16:

Noise: Slightly noisier than the stock michelins
Balance: No problems, and no vibrations. Had them Roadforced on a Hunter GSP9700 machine.
Price: $911 for 5 at Discount Tire

Mine are also too new to comment on the other qualities.

alia176 · 07-05-06, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaddBaggins

Ali, getting rid of the Yokes?
John "offroader5" on MUD is running them in that size. He's a jeep guy who hangs out with Copper State Cruisers. Shoot him a pm.

Yeah, I'm thinking about getting rid of the yokes; primarily due to their load range C. Sidewall is too soft for NM terrain and they still have a decent amount of life left in them.

Ali

smokethedog · 07-05-06, 08:38 AM

switched from mtr's to 295 nitto tg's about 3 years ago. Much better on the highway, quieter and smoother. Awesome in snow (UT mountains). No problems with them in moderate off road use, but havent had them in the mud so cant comment on that. I've got a little over 40k on mine, they still have good tread, and expect to get another 10k or so out them. I've kept them rotated and balanced every 5-7k miles, which will help any tire last longer. I'm very pleased with them and will be using them again when the time comes.

I had a set put on my wifes 4rnr last fall, and the guy at discount asked if I wanted them siphoned (sp?). He said it reduces heat in the tire and improves tread wear. Has anyone had any experience with siphoning an AT tire?
hth

MaddBaggins · 07-05-06, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alia176

Yeah, I'm thinking about getting rid of the yokes; primarily due to their load range C. Sidewall is too soft for NM terrain and they still have a decent amount of life left in them.

Ali

I've been running the Yokes for 2 years in the AZ rocks and so far they have never let me down. They have a lot of rock rash on the sidewalls and a couple of lugs missing here and there, but otherwise they have been good wheeling tires for me. NM terrain is basically the same as here.

Lockd97 · 07-05-06, 08:58 AM

I have the 295's
-wear - 25k+ and still look really good
-puncture resistance (sidewall) - held up well no problems
-chunking - none
-noise - quiet little noise at speed (I can't hear it anymore...)
-balance - balanced easily
-snow/ice traction - excellent, they haven't left me wanting more
-price - $650 for 4

I like them so much that I put a set of 33's on the Tacoma. I was a huge
BFG fan and I can say that I like these better.

alia176 · 07-05-06, 09:03 AM

Thanks for the inputs guys.

Smokethedog,
You're referring to "Siping" the tires which work real well for ice stopping and rock crawling. I'd recommend siping if only you feel that your tires aren't doing a good job of stopping on snow/ice conditions.

Alvin,
Do your yokes have load range C or D? If it's 285s then it'll be D, in which case that's what I'd like to have in 315s. After my one wheeling trip in AZ, I have reservations on the longevity of my Yokes!

Thanks.

Ali

MaddBaggins · 07-05-06, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alia176

Thanks for the inputs guys.

Alvin,
Do your yokes have load range C or D? If it's 285s then it'll be D, in which case that's what I'd like to have in 315s. After my one wheeling trip in AZ, I have reservations on the longevity of my Yokes!

Thanks.

Ali

Ali

Yup, D. I didn't realize the 315's are C. I see your dilema.

Tools R Us · 07-05-06, 11:07 AM

IIRC in our club there are four 80's with 315's, our token heeper running 35x12.5.x15's? and my undersized 295's. I don't think there has ever been a trail related puncture. If you run any tires in rock there will be chunking, I rate the Nitto's better than most. Very quiet and civilized on the road. Snow, ice, mud, I don't know, we don't have that stuff?

John's (Offroader5) rig is mostly a trail rig, sees a constant diet of Flounce Junction abuse and the Nitto's have preformed and held up very well. I don't baby my tires, very happy with them and would buy them again, but they don't make them in 37".

A few of the new FJC guys have them too. One of them got introduced to AZ rock this weekend.

Ivan80 · 07-05-06, 11:30 AM

Running a set of 285s

Snow/ice: Saw quite a bit last winter, and traction was very good.

Wear: only have had them for 5000 miles.

Noise: Very quiet as far as I'm concerned. (Went from the stock Michelins to these)

Price: 5 for $700, installed.

alia176 · 07-05-06, 11:45 AM

Where are you guys purchasing your tires from?

rgsiii · 07-05-06, 01:06 PM

I have 285's on both of my FZJ 80's and they seem pretty nice. I got mine from discount tires by UPS.

Nay · 07-05-06, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alia176

You're referring to "Siping" the tires which work real well for ice stopping and rock crawling. I'd recommend siping if only you feel that your tires aren't doing a good job of stopping on snow/ice conditions.

Siping is a tradeoff for rock crawling - it makes the tires much more susceptible to chunking (as in losing chunks). That's why most of your MT's aren't siped, and if they are, it isn't heavy siping.

Nay

tech_dog · 07-05-06, 08:56 PM

Here's a picture of a 295/75/16, just for reference. I was combing through my pictures from last weekend and noticed this pix showed the tire reasonably well.

KyleT · 07-09-06, 11:46 PM

they are great on the street and on the dirt, but not so great in sticky nasty mud.
learned that one the hard way. they self clean decently in not so deep mud, but buried in the deep stuff. (up to the running boards on my 96 4runner limited with 265/70r17's and a 3"ish lift)

alia176 · 07-10-06, 04:55 AM

I figured they won't be worth much in deep mud and one shouldn't expect them to be! However, I feel that my mud days are well behind me as I've moved to Tijeras, NM. I'm mainly concerned with rocks and sharp stuff on the trail and to minimize the rotational mass.

Thanks all for teh inputs.

Ali

spartan · 07-10-06, 07:16 AM

-wear / Looks like my 295's will be gone at about 32K. The BFG AT's they repalce went 50K.
-puncture resistance (sidewall) / Pretty much like an the other AT tires.
-chunking / The compound is a bit soft and they will tear on shrp rocks.
-noise / Excellent.
-balance / Good
-snow/ice traction / Outstanding especially on wet pavement.
-price / Excellent - Discount Tires Online - they pay shipping.

I am dissapointed with the wear. The BFG AT's were 35 12.5 16.5. The Nittos 295 16 75. Heavy truck - 7400 GVWR Excursion. I don't know whether the weight made the difference in tire wear or not. Good luck.

TX_TLC · 07-10-06, 07:40 AM

I considered them until I went to Discount Tire and they were MORE than either the 8 or 10 ply BFG AT KO's. I went with the BFG's...out the door with replacement certificates for $870. This data point is from the Abilene, Texas Discount Tire on 7-8-06.

bdeakin · 07-10-06, 08:17 AM

I got 295's for my '94 LC and found them to be quite nice and several hundred less out the door than BFG KO's. They were quiet on the road and still allowed me to get 16-17 mpg on the highway.

barrypt5 · 07-10-06, 02:41 PM

I have 285's and have really loved them...they are quiet and worn well...

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/home.do

these guys have a really good price if there is not a discount tires in your town...they also have free shipping...i have ordered from them and they are really good!

THUMBS UP on Nitto from this end...

barrypt5

firetruck41 · 07-10-06, 03:03 PM

Discount Tires has the Terra Grappler ATs on sale on ebay right now.

spartan · 07-10-06, 05:56 PM

" I considered them until I went to Discount Tire and they were MORE than either the 8 or 10 ply BFG AT KO's. I went with the BFG's...out the door with replacement certificates for $870. This data point is from the Abilene, Texas Discount Tire on 7-8-06. "

No way unless you went to a local dealer that made you a deal cause he wanted to dump the BFG's. They are anywhere from $40 to $50 per tire in the same size compared to Nittos.

285 Nitto AT's are $133. BFG AT's $177. Discount Tire right now.

TX_TLC · 07-11-06, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spartan

" I considered them until I went to Discount Tire and they were MORE than either the 8 or 10 ply BFG AT KO's. I went with the BFG's...out the door with replacement certificates for $870. This data point is from the Abilene, Texas Discount Tire on 7-8-06. "

No way unless you went to a local dealer that made you a deal cause he wanted to dump the BFG's. They are anywhere from $40 to $50 per tire in the same size compared to Nittos.

285 Nitto AT's are $133. BFG AT's $177. Discount Tire right now.

I paid $173 for my BFG AT KO's, I asked to compare them to the Nitto Terra Grap. he spun the computer around and said, "If you want to pay more for a lesser tire sure!" The Nitto's in 285 were $179 a tire.

Again this was DISCOUNT TIRE.

ed97fzj80 · 07-11-06, 08:13 AM

He probably priced you some load E tires.

spartan · 07-11-06, 11:07 AM

Hmmm. somethings poopy on that deal. Nitto D's are $133. Even the load E's are less at $161.

Tire dealers make more on the BFG's than on Nittos. He entered $177 manually I would guess. Quick typie fingers.

You got great tires anyway. I think I'm going back to BFG's due to poor tread life of the Nittos I have. Ashamed though. The Nittos are a better all around tire, especially on wet pavement, snow and ice.

TX_TLC · 07-11-06, 12:12 PM

It was on the list of all their 285 tires...no human error, I just called he said they have been super popular...hence the price...go figure.

I am not mad...I like my BFG's