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tough country springs
i put a tough country lift on my truck a year ago. now my shackles and spring are hitting my hitch where it connect to the frame. so i think that the springs have collapsed. any one else had this problem from tough country springs.
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Only on hard flex, or while driving? Don't know about the Tough Country springs (I went with OME), but I have a set of 5.25" shackles I could let go for cheap - they'd give just over 1 inch lift and move the shackle angle just a tiny bit steeper
you can kinda see them in this pic - the holes are sized for the bigger bolt needed when using polyurethane bushings
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10-07-09, 09:40 AM
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They are toast....
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10-07-09, 09:59 AM
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i know i need to make them last untill i can get ome springs.
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10-07-09, 10:01 AM
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slap an extra leaf in there
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i know i need to make them last untill i can get ome springs.
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10-07-09, 10:04 AM
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going to corax is selling me a set and a set of 1" lift shackles.
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10-07-09, 10:19 AM
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pssst how big is your tranny jack. this marlin box is heavy
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going to corax is selling me a set and a set of 1" lift shackles.
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10-09-09, 09:14 PM
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3 1/2 tons and it is heavy so when you going to get here.
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dont know......I need a little $$$$$ first
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3 1/2 tons and it is heavy so when you going to get here.
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10-09-09, 09:19 PM
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i have finally figured out why my spring collapsed. they collapsed because i hauled wood in my trailer from my back yard to my drive way. i had about 1 1/2 cord of wood in the trailer at any given time i moved it to the house. but i am not pleased since the springs are supposed to be their heavydudy springs and they are under three years old.
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i thought you had to go.
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what is really bad is that they have been this way since the first time i hauled wood.
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Talk to Tough Country. If they have any respect for their customers They will either warranty, prorate, or give you a reason as to why they broke down so fast.
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10-09-09, 09:25 PM
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I still think a OME or something would hold up much better. Those Tough country and the several others are of that rigid/hard steel.
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i have finally figured out why my spring collapsed. they collapsed because i hauled wood in my trailer from my back yard to my drive way. i had about 1 1/2 cord of wood in the trailer at any given time i moved it to the house. but i am not pleased since the springs are supposed to be their heavydudy springs and they are under three years old.
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10-09-09, 09:37 PM
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regardless in my opinion they suck.
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10-09-09, 09:41 PM
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and the bitch is i have posted on here about their ride, yea it will be rough when the shackle is laying flat on your frame. thatis where this would be if my reese hitch was not there. it only baffles me that it is only the passenger side spring that is that bad the drivers side is collapsed but not as bad.
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10-17-09, 06:59 PM
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so i ordered my 14mm shackle bolts tonight.
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so i ordered my 14mm shackle bolts tonight.
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Decided against the shackles that I was gonna bring down? The holes are drilled to 18mm for these bushings or similar (11/16" or 3/4" bolts would be close) - no inner bushing sleeve is used, the bushing rides right on the bolt.
I'll be driving through on Monday a week from now - I could drop off the stubby overload leaves and shackles if you still want them . . .
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10-18-09, 07:26 AM
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yea i still want them. i ordered the bolts for them.just wrote the wrong thing.
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10-18-09, 07:28 AM
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i was into a few bud lights when i wrote that.
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yea i still want them. i ordered the bolts for them.just wrote the wrong thing.
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i was into a few bud lights when i wrote that.
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OK, cool - I kinda figured, just wanted to make sure you didn't get the wrong bolts.
BTW, 2009 PATTORA Fall Run is this weekend, should be a sloppy good time (perfect for testing out my KM2's)
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*I hate making posts like this one..here's why..
It's almost 7am, and I have yet to get any coffee in me and I know I'll be back w/i maybe 2 hours with the name I'm looking for here.
Custom made leaf spring pack, multiple leaf. Can't think of their name right now, but they make it so it'll ride great unloaded and perform great under load. Just retrofitted some of the Toyota Tacoma's and Tundras the county uses with them. 1 truck was easily able to handle a cord of Oak and the other a couple bucket loads of dirt.
Dang-it, c'mon...still can't remember their name and I was chatting with Keith about them just last year, and worse, like I said, just had them in my hands less than 2 weeks ago.
A'ha!! ALCAN!! Alcan Spring - Manufactures Fine Custom Leaf Springs
(Same ones we used to install on the ambulance conversions!)
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10-18-09, 08:32 AM
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thanks when i get the $ i will look into them
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Oh nevermind......
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 I figured it out after just 1 sip already man! Also finished up that polynomial homework I had.
BTW..there's a set for a Taco on their clearance page, call them and ask what they're rated to. They're usually brand new sets people have flaked on and you can get screaming deals if they're rated to your need, or pay just a little more for them to swap out a couple leafs so the pack will work for your needs.
(Industry Secret..shhh!)
**Apparently not, they're now including them on their page and ebay!
re: eBay Store - ALCAN SPRING LEAF SPRING SPECIALS: Leaf Springs
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Click HERE for blow-out specials on brand-new springs that people ordered
and then for one reason or another didn't pay for.
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You mean Alcans? edit....failed to look down
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*I hate making posts like this one..here's why..
It's almost 7am, and I have yet to get any coffee in me and I know I'll be back w/i maybe 2 hours with the name I'm looking for here.
Custom made leaf spring pack, multiple leaf. Can't think of their name right now, but they make it so it'll ride great unloaded and perform great under load. Just retrofitted some of the Toyota Tacoma's and Tundras the county uses with them. 1 truck was easily able to handle a cord of Oak and the other a couple bucket loads of dirt.
Dang-it, c'mon...still can't remember their name and I was chatting with Keith about them just last year, and worse, like I said, just had them in my hands less than 2 weeks ago.
A'ha!! ALCAN!! Alcan Spring - Manufactures Fine Custom Leaf Springs
(Same ones we used to install on the ambulance conversions!)
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10-29-09, 12:41 PM
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to clear it up Keith was here Monday and the springs are rough country springs. but i now have every thing to get them up for now any how.
here is a pic of the passenger side shackle.

and the passenger side shock.
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10-29-09, 12:49 PM
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here is the drivers side shackle.

and the drivers side shock.
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Yeah, there is no flex left in them - the spring is bottomed out on the rear bumper brackets, must be a helluva rough ride. Once you get the rear sorted out, should be much nicer on road and off
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10-29-09, 05:18 PM
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well temp fixes will only go so far so alcan will be getting business from me sooner or later.
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