[Jukelemon]

Does it work

IF

you have not ever had the injectors cleaned?

I consistently get good gas mileage in my truck. 20-23 all the time.

However, the injectors have never been cleaned.

Is it worth anything to add a cleaner to the tank for a while?

When I pulled my cold start injector, it was so clean I could not believe it.

Juke

[ToyotaDon]

IF

The injectors are dirty, a cleaner will help.

I'm curious what brand fuel you usually run, if Chevron, etc. the additives do a good job of keeping the injectors clean.

[toy4xfun]

i do use chevrons injector cleaner about once a month. and my injector looked clean when i did the work i just done. you should have seen the ones from my wifes 88 lebaron convertable. and out of the donor engine.

[Jukelemon]

Originally Posted by ToyotaDon

IF

The injectors are dirty, a cleaner will help.

I'm curious what brand fuel you usually run, if Chevron, etc. the additives do a good job of keeping the injectors clean.

I usually run Shell or Chevron. Always have in all my cars.

[cruiser88]

Sea foam

[corax]

Witch Hunter injector service FTW

[Pluton]

Just to rain on a few parades: The gas that comes out of then pump at your beloved Chevron, Shell, or any other brand gas station is not necessarily that brand. It MAY be, but 50/50 it's not. The octane grade is all they care about. When a certain refinery is out of commision, they even have the gas made overseas and shipped in. When the Chevron refinery in El Segundo was off line a few years ago, they were shipping in gas made in Finland and Singapore!
Once, at 2:30 am in Santa Fe Springs in the L.A. area, I saw an empty Chevron tanker pull into an Arco distribution yard...I assume to get filled with Arco's finest.
Most gas nationwide is shipped long distances by pipeline. There's no need to tell if it's Arco, Chevron, 76, or whathaveyou coming out the other end... just that it's a certain octane rating.

[Jukelemon]

Guys, looking for an answer to my question not what gas is best ( :

My gas mileage is excellent, should I use a cleaner?

[Joe_E]

Originally Posted by Jukelemon

Guys, looking for an answer to my question not what gas is best ( :

My gas mileage is excellent, should I use a cleaner?

I'm with you Jukelemon. I have a 92 4X4 as well . I always think if I should have the injectors cleaned or not. I dump a bottle of injector cleaner in there every once in a while, figure it can't hurt. Most times it purs like a kitten at a stop , other times it seems to stumble a little.

Off topic- have you ever changed the fuel filter on your rig? How the hell do you get to it????

[Jukelemon]

Yes, i have changed the filter. Not as bad as most everyone will say.

Remove front pass tire and go at it. It is located right by the oil filter.

Some say use extensions but I didnt. I used stubby wrenches.

Then I relocated it to the pass side fender wall.

[cruiser88]

seafoam......try it

[KLF]

I don't think that the Seafoam treatment is gonna do much for your injectors, if you're talking about the treatment of sucking it up with an intake vacuum hose. It doesn't flow THROUGH the injectors this way, and probably doesn't even touch them as it flys past in the intake chamber.

I also don't think you can hurt by running a can of injector cleaner through occasionally. How many miles do you have on them? I know when I pulled my injectors out at 185K, they were disgusting. I sent them off to RC, they came back looking brandy-new. I've also heard good things about Witch Hunter. We don't have Chevron gas stations around here, and I also think brands are pretty irrelevant.

Fuel filter? Take the passenger front tire off, remove that little panel, there ya go, right in front of you (assuming you're talking about the 22RE). Just be sure to bust the banjo fittings loose first, before unbolting it from the engine.

[cruiser88]

I run it through the pvc system and through the gas tank. The combination works great... however you don't notice it instantly

[toy4xfun]

hey use chevron fuelinjector cleaner with techrolene. and joe it is a pain in the ass you have to feel for the bolts it is under the intake above the starter.

[Jukelemon]

Ok all thanks.

The filter in NOT a pain in the ass. Not to be contrary, but if someone tells you this, they have not done any kind of mechanics in semi tight quarters. IF you have the right tools, it will take less than an hour WITH relocation.

Try working on a Porsche and then the Toyota filter will seem like a breeze.

[Joe_E]

Originally Posted by Jukelemon

Ok all thanks.

The filter in NOT a pain in the ass. Not to be contrary, but if someone tells you this, they have not done any kind of mechanics in semi tight quarters. IF you have the right tools, it will take less than an hour WITH relocation.

Try working on a Porsche and then the Toyota filter will seem like a breeze.

Thanks Juke. I have looked at it a couple times and got a little gun shy. Stubby wrenches you say? Sounds like an excuse for me to buy some new cool tools.

[toy4xfun]

Originally Posted by Jukelemon

Ok all thanks.

The filter in NOT a pain in the ass. Not to be contrary, but if someone tells you this, they have not done any kind of mechanics in semi tight quarters. IF you have the right tools, it will take less than an hour WITH relocation.

Try working on a Porsche and then the Toyota filter will seem like a breeze.

hey i did not say you couldn,t do it is aid it was a pain (if you need special tools and feel with one hand and put the wrench on with the other, or contort yourself in a manner not natural) it is a pain. i have never worked on a Porsche, if it is any thing like a lebaron convertible i do not want to.

[Jukelemon]

KLF: I have 198k on my injectors. I have a very good idle, excellent gas mileage and excellent acceleration. I am sure a cleaning would be beneficial BUT I am not sure how much.

Joe: yeah, I did mine with stubbies and a reg socket/extension. Everyone says the banjo fittings are a pain etc etc but mine came off so easily I was starting to think other people were crazy.

I am sure that every install is different and for cars with a lot of rust...yeah, it might take some prep in terms of bolt soak. But the general consensus of it being impossible or too much is ridiculous to me. It takes patience and the right tools.

IF I would have done the oil change at the smae time...it would have been even less difficult because you gain some good space after the oil filter is gone.

Now that I have relocated mine to the fender, it will take all of 10 minutes to change ( :

[toy4xfun]

i have not relocated mine yet should have when i had the engine out. x2 on the oil filter.

[KLF]

Stubby Gear Wrenches ROCK! Keep an eye on the Sears circulars, sometimes they pop up on sale in a set.

I agree, the 22RE is a breeze to work on, compared to most other engines. I'm not looking forward to doing the timing belt on the V6 in the Highlander this Fall.

[Mark W]

Seafoam is just more snakeoil. The Techcrome or whatever Chevron blows it's horn about... a few ounces of additive dumped in a tankerload of generic gasoline out of a shared pipeline.

Injector cleaner in general.... lots of hype, little reality.


Mark...

[2ndGenToyotaFan]

Originally Posted by Mark W

Seafoam is just more snakeoil. The Techcrome or whatever Chevron blows it's horn about... a few ounces of additive dumped in a tankerload of generic gasoline out of a shared pipeline.

Injector cleaner in general.... lots of hype, little reality.


Mark...

But... but...... but....... I have to agree 100%. I've never seen an in-tank cleaner do anything.... If they are plugged, buy new ones, or send them off to get cleaned.

I just bought a refurbished v6 injector from Schucks (Kragen etc...) for +/- $36, Car quest told me $130 per....

[Michael Hanson]

Waste of $. take parts off and manually clean. 2 cents Mike

[cruiser88]

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ok dad

Originally Posted by Mark W

Seafoam is just more snakeoil. The Techcrome or whatever Chevron blows it's horn about... a few ounces of additive dumped in a tankerload of generic gasoline out of a shared pipeline.

Injector cleaner in general.... lots of hype, little reality.


Mark...

[Bako88]

I think you can't improve over 20 - 23 MPG. I have heard mechanics say to use injector cleaner. I also don't think it really works. I've tried seafoam through intake before. I think that deserves merit due to the egr system depositing soot in the intake system. I got build up really bad in the Throttle Body of a '94 I owened and had issues. I cleaned the soot out with a rag around the butterfly and fixed my problem.

[cruiser88]

I noticed a huge difference yesterday in the use of high test gas. Not expecting any better mpg's but the the engine being smooth and that little extra power was nice..(I am running a carb.

[meatloaf]

Originally Posted by corax

Witch Hunter injector service FTW

Hijack: Looks like send them here is a great deal! Autozone wants $139.00 each. I need to pull mine off....

[cruiser88]

For those of you that cannot wait

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[corax]

Originally Posted by meatloaf

Hijack: Looks like send them here is a great deal! Autozone wants $139.00 each. I need to pull mine off....

+ they actually balance them so each injector is spraying the same amount of fuel, IMHO much better than just buying new. I've not heard any complaints from people that used this company

[Jukelemon]

Tried some Seafoam.

Didn't do sh-t minus decrease my gas mileage ha ha.

Oh well, had to try. I dont think my injectors are bad at all considering the current mpg.