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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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Transmission id?
Can anybody ID this transmission by these two pictures? It is a little bit of a travel for me to go look at it and basically I just want to make sure it's not a G58 out of an ADD truck if possible. I've been searching and I'll keep searching to see if I can find what the codes on the plate mean but if anybody in the mean time knows please chime in. The transmission I am looking at is said to have been removed from a 1991 pickup with a 22re engine. I have an 86 4Runner with an auto and I might buy this to replace the auto trans.
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i cant interpret the label. but i can usually tell by looking at them but that picture sucks.
what is bad about a g58?? __________________ Wristy check the FAQ! 1980 RN37 ![]() ![]() 1989 RN101 1986 RN64 Quote:
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Well unless I'm way off in left field a g58 comes with a chain driven transfer case and cannot be adapted to a gear drive. Maybe I misunderstood what I read on the subject. I plan on gearing a transfer case if I do a 5speed swap so a chain drive case won't do anything for me.
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That looks like the transfer case that is in my 4Runner and it has been regeared. If it did come from a `91 22RE truck, then it should be a gear driven t-case. The transmission looks like a W56. That too, would match the `91 22RE truck. It could be either a W56-C or W56-D. Check the Marlin Crawler site.
Good Luck. __________________ Kevin `85 4Runner - work in progress M416 Trailer - ukn year, rebuilt July 2007, build thread `68 FJ40 - planning stages of a build Green Country Cruisers - member Wish List - to long to post |
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I looked at Marlins site for around 30 minutes (of course I got sidetracked by bumpers for a few minutes) and didn't find anything about the id plate. I also couldn't make a distinct recognition by any of the pics. I think ADD started in 1990 so this truck could very well be an ADD truck. I can't tell by the pics and the owner doesn't really seem to know very much at all about what they have. To me it does LOOK like a gear driven tcase, and I know that it looks completely different than the chain drive case behind my auto, but I have no idea what a chain drive behind a g58 looks like so I'm not sure. Manual transmissions kind of all look the same to me when it comes to Toyota so I have no idea there. With the shift boots on in the pic I can't even tell if it is forward shift or topshift.
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You tell by the number of bolts on the rear most cover of the t-case. 7 for gear, 5 for chain.
Edited per KY854RUN.... also to make me look smart....
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Jerod, you got it backwards. 5 bolts for the chain driven case and 7 for the gear driven case. But, a picture is worth a 1000 words. So here are 2 of the T-case from my 4Runner and it is a gear driven case.
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It is a forward shift T-case in the photo. But, that is easy to change.
__________________ Kevin `85 4Runner - work in progress M416 Trailer - ukn year, rebuilt July 2007, build thread `68 FJ40 - planning stages of a build Green Country Cruisers - member Wish List - to long to post |
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If you've not figured it out yet theres some pics in the
Here, look through here http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota...case-help.html 5 bolt cover
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__________________ Jerod The 79-95 Truck/4Runner FAQ 89 4Runner "The James Caird" 01 4Runner, for my Jefferson State Cruisers |
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I replaced my tranny in my 92 PU with 22re. It was a W56 and it was my understanding that w56's were used in the 91-95 years for the 22re 4x4. My donor came from a 94.
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![]() That's a top shift case A forward shift case has a block-off plate where the shifter mount is in that pic. __________________ 84 4Runner - ARBed 5.29s F&R, 2.28 & 4.7 t-cases, 30 spl Longs, 36" TSLs, etc. seen in FOUR WHEELER magazine July 2006, OFF-ROAD magazine Feb 2007 |
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but you are right about it if it is __________________ Wristy check the FAQ! 1980 RN37 ![]() ![]() 1989 RN101 1986 RN64 Quote:
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If you look closely, you can see the flat spot at the back of the shifter boot. That is where a top shift shifter would be if it were a top shift transfer case. Also, notice how close the tranny shifter and the T-case shifter are to each other. That is a forward shift set up on the transmission/T-case.
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That looks like a forward shifting and if that is the case then it isnt a W-56 tranny. that is probably a G series or the R-151F which would be a good deal.
I dont think you can get W-56 with the forward shifting tranny case there just isnt room. There is a flat spot with the block off plate on top and the shifters are to close together to be top shifting. I just went through all of this to replace the tranny in mine. |
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__________________ Kevin `85 4Runner - work in progress M416 Trailer - ukn year, rebuilt July 2007, build thread `68 FJ40 - planning stages of a build Green Country Cruisers - member Wish List - to long to post |
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You are correct but what did they come in? I havent seen or heard of a stock truck coming with one of those. Is it some overseas awesome option that we cant have over here.
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IIRC, all of the 22RE 4x4 trucks, up to 1995, had the gear driven T-case. I think that they also had the W series transmission. The V6 trucks used the R150 series transmission with the chain drive T-case. I think that what beatdown83fj60 is trying to avoid is a chain drive T-case for the automatic locking hubs. The T-case in the photo is a gear drive case. So, there is a good chance that this is a W56 series transmission. Even if it is not a W56, I would doubt that it came out of an ADD truck. But, I have been wrong before.
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