Would you buy this 87?+PICS+

[KLF]

I would make VERY sure what gear ratios you have now, both front and rear, before buying another diff. Pull the rear one out now, see what's going on.

And don't pay more than $50 for an open 4-cyl diff with 4.10's.

[Tracker]

2ndGenToyFan,
Thanks for the info and link.

[tntoyota]

Originally Posted by Tracker

Someone earlier said to lock 1 hub and turn the DS, I did that and it would not spin.

If that was the front?

Originally Posted by Tracker

Yeah it was binding and clunking pretty bad, but is sounded that way before I left the lot. It reminded me of a spooled rear, the binding was worse around corners.

Any one else thinking what I'm thinking?


Go get you some roll over 4r gears front and rear forget what you have.

Also check 4x4 mini auto tans.

G292 4:10
G254 4:56
**10 4:37
**14 4:87
**28 4:30


G is 8" diff
2,3 or 4 imply pinion's in the spider gear's
and the last two #'s are the ratio's

[KLF]

All that info above ^^^^^ only applies if the stock factory gears are still in the diffs. My VIN sticker says I have 4.10s right now, but I guarantee you that's not what's in the axles.

Rear diff has to come out anyway. Take it out, count the teeth.

[tntoyota]

I wrote that becouse I think he's got welded diff's


And "that" only applies if someone has not changed the factory diffs. he's buying.



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[Tracker]

Thanks for the info.
If they are the original gears its 4:10's, the code is G292.

[Bear80]

haha, there's no way 4.10 would turn those 35's worth a damn. I would bet money that it's been re-geared.

[tntoyota]

Originally Posted by Bear80

haha, there's no way 4.10 would turn those 35's worth a damn. I would bet money that it's been re-geared.

We gonna find out!!!!!!

keep us up Tracker!

five buck's Bear?

Wait, gotta pay bill's, two fifty?.........+ the stamp!

[Tracker]

I'm pretty sure its 4:10's. I hope to get time to work on it tomorrow. I'll take pic's and let you know.
I tried to check the front today but it didn't work out so well. I jacked up one side, marked the tire and the u-joint. I had the trans in N and the transfer case in 4hi. I turned the tire and as it turned it got hard to turn, I used two hands and the wheel started turning but the drive shaft didn't. Then I jacked up both wheels and tried it again, same thing.

I cleaned it out good, cleaned the windows, took off the front push/brush guard and 4 fog lights, fixed little stuff here and there. Its time to dig into the axle now. There were 2 steel wagon wheels with BFG's in the bed, it has a brand new sony explode cd head unit and an amp under the pass seat.

The kids like it and it fits in the garage(just clears the door).

[2ndGenToyotaFan]

Put some blocks on the pedals and install a periscope and give that boy the keys!

[Tracker]

I got the 3rd out of my truck.
I think someone changed the gears, Unless toyotas came with richmond gears.

The ring out of mine has 37 teeth.
The one I got has 41 teeth.

The busted one out of my truck on left.

[KLF]

By the thickness of that ring gear, I'd say you have 5.29's in there. And from the looks of things, they're no good now!

And I wouldn't put that other rusty POS diff in MY truck. Take that thing back, get your money back. UGH!!!

[Tracker]

I just counted teeth again on the Richmond gears.
8 teeth on the pinion, 37 teeth on the ring.
I went to there site and none of those numbers matched with what they sell.

["N8"]

Well by the looks of the carrier unit it seems that the pinion gear is WAY to far in torward the diff and needs to have a new crush sleeve or solid spacer installed and probobly new bearings. If the teeth of both the ring and pinion gear look good you could probobly asemble a good diff with the parts you have there and a couple new parts from toyota.

Ken those numbers look to me more close to 4:88 or mayby even 4:30 gears and my yukon 4:88 ring gear was about as thick as the one pictured above.

Good luck gettin a working set tracker

[2ndGenToyotaFan]

You must have miscounted... Cause there's not such thing as 4.62 gears...... Probably 4.88. I bet you have 39 ring teeth.

[KLF]

Look at the chunks in the ring teeth, those gears are trash. The pinion probably looks worse. A few things could have caused this: bad setup, pinion nut coming loose, pinion bearings disentegrated. Something allowed the pinion to walk in too far, that's for sure.

I can't make the math work at all with 37 teeth on the ring to come out to 4.88s, can you?

37/10=3.70
37/9=4.111
37/8=4.625

But 37/7=5.286... Tracker are you SURE on the pinion teeth?

4.88's are usually 39x8 teeth.

[tntoyota]

the check's in the mail

[Bear80]

you talking about my 5 dollars??

[Tracker]

Yup, I misscounted, its 37 ring & 7 pinion. 5.29's
I'm gonna call richmond tomorrow because the part number does not jive with anything they list. Here is what is stamped on the ring:
RICHMOND K 3 80-0402-1 8620

The pinion is trash, no teeth at all and the ring is missing a few.
Maybe they only changed the gears in the rear. I'm gonna put it together and try and check the front to see what's in there.
Worst case, I'll have to drive it in 2wd untill I can get some money for 5.29's if that's whats up front

[tntoyota]

Originally Posted by Bear80

you talking about my 5 dollars??

two fity??

[extremetoy1]

I want somew better pics of the bed... I ownder if its downeys or the old california stepside beds (which I own the molds too!! )

it may be downeys modular bed (either side wil work on each side) or the northwest offroad version of cali minis (no longer carry them) oldschool.

["N8"]

And yet again ken you are right and I was wrong...

Maybe i should slow down and listen to the teacher.

[Tracker]

Anyone have a 3rd with 5.29's they wanna sell???????

Originally Posted by extremetoy1

I want somew better pics of the bed... I ownder if its downeys or the old california stepside beds (which I own the molds too!! )

it may be downeys modular bed (either side wil work on each side) or the northwest offroad version of cali minis (no longer carry them) oldschool.

[tntoyota]

Originally Posted by Tracker

I tried to check the front today but it didn't work out so well. I jacked up one side, marked the tire and the u-joint. I had the trans in N and the transfer case in 4hi. I turned the tire and as it turned it got hard to turn, I used two hands and the wheel started turning but the drive shaft didn't. Then I jacked up both wheels and tried it again, same thing.

HMMM.......

[tntoyota]

Originally Posted by tntoyota

If that was the front?




Any one else thinking what I'm thinking?


Go get you some roll over 4r gears front and rear forget what you have.

Also check 4x4 mini auto tans.

G292 4:10
G254 4:56
**10 4:37
**14 4:87
**28 4:30


G is 8" diff
2,3 or 4 imply pinion's in the spider gear's
and the last two #'s are the ratio's

Double HMMMMM.................


I once had a T-100 with factory 4:87's

I bet they'll be near imposable to find though.


BTW, 4WIW, I have read countless mag's and other sources and 2MK I think they ALL imply you can "set up" the gears without a pinion depth tool or gauge.

This has always been a quandary for me, and if I had the money Summit has one, costs more money than initially thought of but 2MK you will set up the diff THE FIRST TIME right and not have to re shim the pinion if incorrect. And it is reusable, win win to me

This is my opinion, 2MK and.........AND the artical I read in P4WOR specifically for IFS Toyota in the pictures, the tools they bought from Randy's R&P where the same one's you get at Harbor Freight


Yeah, but honey if "WE" get this hydrolic press, "WE" can make wine with it....

And honey if "WE" get this pinion depth gauge I'll let you use it in the garden for the tomatoes............................

Tell her the part's cleaner roticery is for making bread

[Tracker]

Its alive!
I did a bunch of stuff here is the "major" stuff.
New trans and T-case, found it has a newer center force cluch when I pulled the old trans out.
New 35" Pro-Comp mud terrains.
New Motive Gear 5.29's in the rear to match the front Richmonds.
Changed or checked all fluids.
Covered the bright green roll cage with black pad.
Had the whole dash out trying to figure out why the heat would not work and the whole time it was just the cable was off the little flap thing for the hot/cold air blend thing.

I made a bunch of short trips and got about 100 miles on the new gears, so I'm gonna change the oil and go wheeling next Sat.
Here are a few pics from the last couple weeks.







Here is an 85 xtra cab I found not far from my house, I'm thinking about buying it.




Just wanted to give ya an update.
Thanks for looking
Aaron