Spiffin up the back side a bit.

["N8"]

So im driving around with my buddy and he notices that the right side of the bed hangs a bit low. I tell him that it has always done that and its not a problem.

Being the thick headed kid he is he stuck his head under the truck anyway and low and behold main leaf spring failure. If it wernt for the double military wrap my axle would have been located somewhere on interstate 90.

It must have happened recently because it was news to me. Anyway we drove back to his place and for fear of my life it got parked till I could get some new leaf springs and stuff under there

Now it just so happens I had some spare parts lying around care of All Pro and Marlin Crawler for an occasion just like this.

Check it out the photos suck because they were taken late last night.

["N8"]

Why do I do all my work in the winter?

["N8"]

Here she is sitting under her own weight with the new springs

["N8"]

Here is the new axle and shocks. (3rd member care of marlin crawler and a boat load of mulah!)

["N8"]

I have routed the exaust above the frame and lifted the gas tank 2 inches so that I could end up with a fairly flat underbelly from the t-case back. Eventually Ill loose the t-case suport and build my own so I can plate the entire underside.

Also to note I used the stock spring perches for now because I dont have all the parts I need, but once I get my hands on a short drive shaft and a carrier bearing im going to rotate the axle upwards and use a short cv style driveshaft to aim the shaft outa the way of rocks.

["N8"]

Thats it for now more to come tho.

[miletwo]

Looks sweet.

[cruiser88]

i feel you about working outside in the winter it sucks.good work

[ajfriz]

Looks good. How much lift do those springs have? I heart working the the freezing cold.

["N8"]

Thanks those are all pro's 4 inch long travle leaf springs and my back end was down about 3 or 4 inches anyway so I got about 7 inches outa em.

[Bear80]

So where's the pics of the broken leafs?
Also that is a pretty shallow angle on the shackles......

["N8"]

Originally Posted by Bear80

So where's the pics of the broken leafs?
Also that is a pretty shallow angle on the shackles......

I left the shackle angel shallow on purpose. My truck doesnt even have an anti sway bar wich will tell you how much I care about its ability to handle the road. But I do care about getting as much flex outa em as possible hence the shallow angle and johny joints on the shackles.

Like I said it was late last night when I took the pictures and I didnt know wich scrap pile the leafs were in. I also said there are more to come so just hold on there buckaroo im sure we can work something out.

[Bear80]

Originally Posted by "N8"

I left the shackle angel shallow on purpose. My truck doesnt even have an anti sway bar wich will tell you how much I care about its ability to handle the road. But I do care about getting as much flex outa em as possible hence the shallow angle and johny joints on the shackles.

You lost me here.....explain how a shallow shackle angle gives you bad handeling and better flex. Shackle angle play little roll with these trucks in regard to handeling, was is a factor is length. There is a compromise in angle for a reason, less angle=less drop but more up and vise versa. So you're telling me you don't want drop but up travel???

[nat88toy]

Originally Posted by Bear80

You lost me here.....explain how a shallow shackle angle gives you bad handeling and better flex. Shackle angle play little roll with these trucks in regard to handeling, was is a factor is length. There is a compromise in angle for a reason, less angle=less drop but more up and vise versa. So you're telling me you don't want drop but up travel???

the angle looks alot worse beacause of 2 factors 1 the bed is no there yet so the added weight is not on the frame/ leaf spring 2 the springs are brand new 0 miles on them so they have not settled in, once the springs have some miles on them and the bed is on with its usual 150 pounds of cargo that angle will become less extreme

all pro says to move the rear hanger back 1 1/2 to 2 inches we moved it 1 1/2

[Bear80]

Originally Posted by nat88toy

the angle looks alot worse beacause of 2 factors 1 the bed is no there yet so the added weight is not on the frame/ leaf spring 2 the springs are brand new 0 miles on them so they have not settled in, once the springs have some miles on them and the bed is on with its usual 150 pounds of cargo that angle will become less extreme

all pro says to move the rear hanger back 1 1/2 to 2 inches we moved it 1 1/2

true true but it seems to me if the springs have to settle that much for a good angle with just the weight of the bed they are inline with suck-o downeys. All pro is not a name I would doubt at all. I'd say keep an eye on them after a few weeks and you could grind off the mounts and move them to get a better angle if you feel you want it.

["N8"]

Originally Posted by Bear80

true true but it seems to me if the springs have to settle that much for a good angle with just the weight of the bed they are inline with suck-o downeys. All pro is not a name I would doubt at all. I'd say keep an eye on them after a few weeks and you could grind off the mounts and move them to get a better angle if you feel you want it.

You suck.

Please leave this thread and dont coment on it again.

[nat88toy]

Originally Posted by "N8"

You suck.

Please leave this thread and dont coment on it again.

x2

You are just an anoyance.

["N8"]

Ok I have some more pictures for yas guys, but your going to have to forgive me for some of the poor quality photos these shots came off of a dinosaur of a camera.

Also all these are all before shots of the above aftermath.

ok here goes

["N8"]

Gas tank out and nat workin the crane.

["N8"]

Cant see anything in the first photo, but see anything wrong in the second two shots?

["N8"]

Let me give you a hint

["N8"]

This thing must have chucked its valve rod to help me save some extra weight. Works well first 50$ gets it.

["N8"]

Here she is under the knife. The rest you have seen above and for the near future a newly redone front diff with 4:88 gears gets slaped in and the locker gets wired up...

coming soon.

[Bear80]

Originally Posted by "N8"

You suck.

Please leave this thread and dont coment on it again.

I may 'knock some of your comments in other threads but you need to have your info straight before you go touting it off to someone. I didn't start out here to bad mouth your work. It looks great, hell I wish I could weld and your spring choice is excellent. I mearly questioned the shackle angle and you could have just said, that you placed the mount where it's recommened. However you insisted on telling everyone that you drive an unsafe vehicle and don't care about safety. How do I suck when I try to correct you in the effects of shackle angle? If you don't want to hear my input, by all means block me out.

["N8"]

Bear80 I may 'knock some of your comments in other threads but you need to have your info straight before you go touting it off to someone.

-You don't "knock" much of anything its more of a constant complaining, and I do believe it is you that has to get your info straight before you go toting it. Hence my shackle angle that is obviously wrong from what you can surmise from a couple of poor photos. All Pro seems to think otherwise though and im more inclined to believe them than you.


I didn't start out here to bad mouth your work.

-Good so stop doing so.


It looks great

-Thank you.


hell I wish I could weld and your spring choice is excellent.

-I wish you could weld too, maybe then you could scrutinize your own work and stop nit picking every small thing that looks like it may be wrong with my work.


I merely questioned the shackle angle and you could have just said, that you placed the mount where it's recommend. However you insisted on telling everyone that you drive an unsafe vehicle and don't care about safety.

-I drive an unsafe vehicle??? HA that's rich coming from a man who drives a truck with no breaks. I live in the city of boston and rarely ever get beyond 40 mph and the city streets are not conducive to vehicle roll over. I do believe that your the only one whom could have pulled the conclusion that I drive an unsafe vehicle from what I wrote previously.

How do I suck when I try to correct you in the effects of shackle angle?

-Its not you that sucks your probobly a fine upstanding individual, it's merely every word that seems to find its way from your mind onto your keyboard and then onto this forum that seems to suck like the vacume of space. You give bad advice to people whom don't need it, and if you go back and look at your posts it seems that the only thing you do is complain about other peoples work. (that or the fact that you cant bleed your breaks)


If you don't want to hear my input, by all means block me out. [/quote]

-Its only due to sheer amazement and curiosity as to the inane stupid stuff you will post that I have not done so already.

["N8"]

Ok so the other night I stayed up late and installed the new front diff. Nat and I had rebuilt one of the spare front diffs he had lying around with brand new yukon 4:88 gears.

While we were at it we riped the hubs off and rebuilt those... again. Seems that the gasket surface was worn to shit and let wattery goo into one of the hubs. (no wounder it was so hard to turn) sry no pics of that tear down.

but while all that other crap was out we replaced the bronse spindle bushings that were making my truck into a giant vibrator. (the gf said I should just keep the crappy ones in and sell rides to horny college girls from down the street)

and earlier tonight we got the wireing roughed up and working. here are some pics of the diff comin out and about to go in.