Can you get a 70 Series in the USA?

barrypt5 · 03-22-06, 09:50 AM

OK I am prepared to be railed for asking this question that is probably buried in some thread from 5 years ago but I did do a search and found a little bit of info but thought people may want to chime in with their own 2 cents

. So when looking at the Readers Rides sticky there are some 70 series Cruisers in the US but, how I guess is my question and are they still obtainable? I have seen a lot of Canadians have obtained JDM style ones straight from Japan! I have also seen, from going on Toyota Colombia and Toyota Venezuela you can still buy them brand new down there!!!!!

Then again I guess this is me being the typical guy that wants what he can't have...
I am not picky like some for petrol vs diesel but I would prefer left hand drive. Thanks a lot
barrypt5

ps maybe I should just fly to Venezuela buy one and drive it back!

WagonsRule · 03-22-06, 10:58 AM

You can't title or register the Japanese vehicles in the US. You can however get an 85-87 BJ70 from Canada and get that all legal in the States.

Not sure about your idea of driving home from Venezuela, but my guess is that a 70 series from there would be too new to register here. It would be a fun trip though.

j7addict · 03-22-06, 12:59 PM

Unfortunately, the only 7 series you can legally get in the USA are the BJ-70s sold in Canada in the mid 80s. You'll occasionally find them for sale in Canada, but you have to check very well if they are in good shape, too much snow and salt...

There are some beefed up legally titled un the US, from people who imported them from Canada, but be prepare to pay top $$$ for them.

You can wait three years and import an 85 manufactured in 1984, then you can legally import it from anywhere in the world.

I did a lot of research like a year ago and couldn't find any legal way to bring any 7 series other than the Can spec BJ-70s and got really frustraded

Good luck anyways...

Tapage · 03-22-06, 03:09 PM

But jsut wondering .. and make sence .. Venezuelan FZJ-71 are 1FZ-FE powered .. so it pass the emision control .. mmm but not Air bags .. ya my bad.

Anycase you can't drive it from Venezuela to Panamá ( no road option )

lowenbrau · 03-22-06, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tapage

Anycase you can't drive it from Venezuela to Panamá ( no road option )

I think that Darian Gap problem needs to be solved with an expedition of Land Cruisers.

WagonsRule · 03-22-06, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tapage

But jsut wondering .. and make sence .. Venezuelan FZJ-71 are 1FZ-FE powered .. so it pass the emision control .. mmm but not Air bags .. ya my bad.

Anycase you can't drive it from Venezuela to Panamá ( no road option )

It's not just emissions and airbags...there is more to it than that. I don't know all the specifics. I do know that glass is a big deal though. Has to be USDOT approved, which a vehicle from a non US market would not be.

crushers · 03-22-06, 04:27 PM

not necessarily, most of the glass on the JDM imports have the proper stampings...
air bags is the big deal as well as side beam reinforcement...

Bruce, just let me know when you wish to tackle the Darian Gap...

arcteryx · 03-22-06, 06:16 PM

I got mine from someone who imported it into the states legally. There is documentation out there, as well as in the forum. There is a lot of info out there, you just have to search for it. One of the better ones I have come across is here

Cuervo · 03-22-06, 09:26 PM

Hey guys, I'm new aruond here... I just posted a question this morning regarding my 70 series... but as it comes with the 1FZ-F engine I had to ask on the 80 series section

The newer 71 series is still being sold here, it comes as said on another reply with the 1FZ-FE engine, it has 4 seat belts, also side reinforcements (inside doors).

Mine is a '97 model, so it has no seat belts on the back seats, it's carburated (I hate it but nothing I can do hehe) and it has slight differences with the new one which remains almost the same as 20 years ago...

No 7X series has airbags here, and as I know neither around the world... I guess as it's not a car designed for being in the city some safety devices are not considered to be present in that kind of car, maybe I'm wrong

If anyone who wants to see the specs of the new 7X series sold in Venezuela and speaks or reads spanish you can check www.toyota.com.ve there are some picts too

crushers · 03-23-06, 03:20 AM

the air bags are the big hold back for Canada, the side reinforcement is good news though, thanks for posting...
cheers

roscoFJ73 · 03-23-06, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuervo

Hey guys, I'm new aruond here... I just posted a question this morning regarding my 70 series... but as it comes with the 1FZ-F engine I had to ask on the 80 series section

The newer 71 series is still being sold here, it comes as said on another reply with the 1FZ-FE engine, it has 4 seat belts, also side reinforcements (inside doors).

Mine is a '97 model, so it has no seat belts on the back seats, it's carburated (I hate it but nothing I can do hehe) and it has slight differences with the new one which remains almost the same as 20 years ago...

No 7X series has airbags here, and as I know neither around the world... I guess as it's not a car designed for being in the city some safety devices are not considered to be present in that kind of car, maybe I'm wrong

If anyone who wants to see the specs of the new 7X series sold in Venezuela and speaks or reads spanish you can check www.toyota.com.ve there are some picts too

Hi Cuervo ,I was wondering if those rollbars for the 79 series pick up are standard?
In Australia we would have to buy that separately but its a good idea considering the rollovers here.
I was also curious as to what carb the 1FZ uses?
The carbed 1FZ would have to be miles ahead of the old 3F

Tapage · 03-23-06, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowenbrau

I think that Darian Gap problem needs to be solved with an expedition of Land Cruisers.

When .. ? I'm ready .. !

crushers · 03-23-06, 08:31 AM

Darian Gap.
hummm, so we get a dozen reliable land cruisers together and head south... yep i like that idea...

Gold Boy · 03-23-06, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuervo

If anyone who wants to see the specs of the new 7X series sold in Venezuela and speaks or reads spanish you can check www.toyota.com.ve there are some picts too

60,000.00 VEB Venezuela Bolivares = 32.6598 CAD Canada Dollars

GB

Tapage · 03-23-06, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crushers

Darian Gap.
hummm, so we get a dozen reliable land cruisers together and head south... yep i like that idea...

Dozen .. too much .. 6 at much .. long trip, so heavy duty pakage in all rigs .. lockers, winch, a lots of spares .. I thought minimun tire size 35".

In this trip with need to aford some river cross, in boats .. and sometimes made those boats ..

Good documentation we are ready to sell it .. !

crushers · 03-23-06, 02:07 PM

hey, i like the idea of 6 even better...

Gold Boy · 03-23-06, 02:21 PM

Tropical climate exped.

All I can say make sure to bring a doctor, and you have local guides with survival knowledge.

GB

crushers · 03-23-06, 02:26 PM

hell even if i can only get as far as Tapage's place i will be happy...
have you seen the "scenery" down there?
8^)

Cuervo · 03-23-06, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roscoFJ73

Hi Cuervo ,I was wondering if those rollbars for the 79 series pick up are standard?
In Australia we would have to buy that separately but its a good idea considering the rollovers here.
I was also curious as to what carb the 1FZ uses?
The carbed 1FZ would have to be miles ahead of the old 3F

Rosco, I really don't know which model of carb has my car... I could send u a pict of it if that works for u =)

The bars I mentioned come inside the doors. a roll cage has to be made by a third party as I did.

TEPUI · 03-23-06, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gold Boy

60,000.00 VEB Venezuela Bolivares = 32.6598 CAD Canada Dollars

GB

GB, that's 60 million VEB, not 60 thousand.

Gold Boy · 03-23-06, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEPUI

GB, that's 60 million VEB, not 60 thousand.

Thanks.. to bad

GB

Tapage · 03-24-06, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crushers

hell even if i can only get as far as Tapage's place i will be happy...
have you seen the "scenery" down there?
8^)

I never seen the complete scenery .. yap I know a lots about the trip ( always dream with it ) and the enviroment .. also I know a lots about Darien ( the province that is the main part of this trip - close to Colombian territory )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darien_National_Park

Some history ..

http://www.4wdonline.com/Places/Cent...ica/LPU01.html

Tapage · 03-24-06, 09:22 AM

Other linlk with info .. are not easy trip .. at most not for the terrain .. most with Colombians FARC's in all area ..

http://www.4wdonline.com/Places/Cent...ca/Darien.html

elchivo · 03-24-06, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roscoFJ73

Hi Cuervo ,I was wondering if those rollbars for the 79 series pick up are standard?
In Australia we would have to buy that separately but its a good idea considering the rollovers here.
I was also curious as to what carb the 1FZ uses?
The carbed 1FZ would have to be miles ahead of the old 3F

Yes, the rollbars are standard 79 series pick up in Venezuela.

nickw · 03-24-06, 11:04 AM

I think the Darian Gap expedition would be very cool, and very disappointing.
You are basically driving across a swap. I did some research on this.
It is possible, but most people hire guides between villages to show them the best and safest way of traveling. Not many of our vehicles would make the trip, I include myself there. I doubt my 80 would do it unless I install a Slee 6" lift and 35" MT (or bigger, and portals would be nice too).

And if you do make it, you end up in guerilla ruled drug country Columbia, and I am sure they would just love to have our cruisers. It's noted as the most dangerous place to travel on earth.

Sorry to be the pessimist.

Cheers,
Nick

crushers · 03-24-06, 01:26 PM

pessimist or realist?

03-22-06, 09:50 AM	#1
barrypt5 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walla Walla, WA TLCA# 18114 Posts: 268	Can you get a 70 Series in the USA? OK I am prepared to be railed for asking this question that is probably buried in some thread from 5 years ago but I did do a search and found a little bit of info but thought people may want to chime in with their own 2 cents . So when looking at the Readers Rides sticky there are some 70 series Cruisers in the US but, how I guess is my question and are they still obtainable? I have seen a lot of Canadians have obtained JDM style ones straight from Japan! I have also seen, from going on Toyota Colombia and Toyota Venezuela you can still buy them brand new down there!!!!! Then again I guess this is me being the typical guy that wants what he can't have... I am not picky like some for petrol vs diesel but I would prefer left hand drive. Thanks a lot barrypt5 ps maybe I should just fly to Venezuela buy one and drive it back! __________________ '97 LX450 Locked (w/CDL switch) Approaching 100k ARB'd (10k T-Max Winch) - Lightforce 240 Blitz'd 285/75-R16's Nitto TerraGrappler AT OME 2.5" 850/860's - MetalTech Sliders '04 Corolla 5spd 38mpg "on-Road Trip Rig" "It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves." - Sir Edmund Hillary

03-22-06, 10:58 AM	#2
WagonsRule IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 155	You can't title or register the Japanese vehicles in the US. You can however get an 85-87 BJ70 from Canada and get that all legal in the States. Not sure about your idea of driving home from Venezuela, but my guess is that a 70 series from there would be too new to register here. It would be a fun trip though. __________________ '65 FJ45LV (5/65) '67 FJ45LV (12/66) '85 FJ60 (4/85) ---------------------------------------------- If every fourth animal in the world is a beetle, perhaps every fourth person is a dumb f#*k.

03-22-06, 04:27 PM	#7
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,225	not necessarily, most of the glass on the JDM imports have the proper stampings... air bags is the big deal as well as side beam reinforcement... Bruce, just let me know when you wish to tackle the Darian Gap... __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 Wayne Owen Sound Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca separating the rumours from the truth. join today

03-22-06, 06:16 PM	#8
arcteryx IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tejas TLCA# 15006 Posts: 599	I got mine from someone who imported it into the states legally. There is documentation out there, as well as in the forum. There is a lot of info out there, you just have to search for it. One of the better ones I have come across is here __________________ Treasurer of Austin Lone Star Land Cruisers TLCA # 15006 Looking for a Cruiser..... Relics: 1991 BTJ80, 1985 BJ70, 1997 FZJ80, 1981 FJ40, 1978 FJ40

03-22-06, 09:26 PM	#9
Cuervo IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Caracas - Venezuela Posts: 10	I live in Venezuela... Hey guys, I'm new aruond here... I just posted a question this morning regarding my 70 series... but as it comes with the 1FZ-F engine I had to ask on the 80 series section The newer 71 series is still being sold here, it comes as said on another reply with the 1FZ-FE engine, it has 4 seat belts, also side reinforcements (inside doors). Mine is a '97 model, so it has no seat belts on the back seats, it's carburated (I hate it but nothing I can do hehe) and it has slight differences with the new one which remains almost the same as 20 years ago... No 7X series has airbags here, and as I know neither around the world... I guess as it's not a car designed for being in the city some safety devices are not considered to be present in that kind of car, maybe I'm wrong If anyone who wants to see the specs of the new 7X series sold in Venezuela and speaks or reads spanish you can check www.toyota.com.ve there are some picts too

03-22-06, 12:59 PM	#3
j7addict IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 74	Unfortunately, the only 7 series you can legally get in the USA are the BJ-70s sold in Canada in the mid 80s. You'll occasionally find them for sale in Canada, but you have to check very well if they are in good shape, too much snow and salt... There are some beefed up legally titled un the US, from people who imported them from Canada, but be prepare to pay top $$$ for them. You can wait three years and import an 85 manufactured in 1984, then you can legally import it from anywhere in the world. I did a lot of research like a year ago and couldn't find any legal way to bring any 7 series other than the Can spec BJ-70s and got really frustraded Good luck anyways...

03-23-06, 03:20 AM	#10
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,225	the air bags are the big hold back for Canada, the side reinforcement is good news though, thanks for posting... cheers __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 Wayne Owen Sound Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca separating the rumours from the truth. join today

03-23-06, 08:31 AM	#13
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,225	Darian Gap. hummm, so we get a dozen reliable land cruisers together and head south... yep i like that idea... __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 Wayne Owen Sound Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca separating the rumours from the truth. join today

03-23-06, 02:07 PM	#16
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,225	hey, i like the idea of 6 even better... __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 Wayne Owen Sound Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca separating the rumours from the truth. join today

03-23-06, 02:21 PM	#17
Gold Boy it's fishing time! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern Interior, BC, Canada. Posts: 1,478 Blog Entries: 1	Tropical climate exped. All I can say make sure to bring a doctor, and you have local guides with survival knowledge. GB __________________ BJ74 & TUFT & U-AFPT

03-23-06, 02:26 PM	#18
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,225	hell even if i can only get as far as Tapage's place i will be happy... have you seen the "scenery" down there? 8^)

03-24-06, 11:04 AM	#25
nickw IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cranbrook BC Posts: 1,370	I think the Darian Gap expedition would be very cool, and very disappointing. You are basically driving across a swap. I did some research on this. It is possible, but most people hire guides between villages to show them the best and safest way of traveling. Not many of our vehicles would make the trip, I include myself there. I doubt my 80 would do it unless I install a Slee 6" lift and 35" MT (or bigger, and portals would be nice too). And if you do make it, you end up in guerilla ruled drug country Columbia, and I am sure they would just love to have our cruisers. It's noted as the most dangerous place to travel on earth. Sorry to be the pessimist. Cheers, Nick __________________ 1988 BJ74 / Lots of goodies - Sold 1990 HDJ81 / Fully outfitted loaded beautiful truck - Rolled 1985 BJ60 / Beautiful Stock truck - Stolen

03-24-06, 01:26 PM	#26
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 9,225	pessimist or realist? __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 Wayne Owen Sound Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca separating the rumours from the truth. join today