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Old 06-18-05, 02:53 PM   #31 (permalink)
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yah, i thought it was 1989 as the first and only year of the 3B-II (you can tell by the exhaust manifold)
a 24V PTO winch, now that is a rare beast...
i have come across a few HZJ73s but i have past as they didn't fit my desires for a import...
nice to see one here though, good for him...
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Old 06-18-05, 03:12 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Hi Wayne,

Just curious, what don't you like about the HZJ 73's?

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nothing at all, i have not driven one so i can not make an acurate opinion. they would be a cross between my BJ74 with the engine from my HZJ75, since i really love them both i think they would be fine unit.

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Old 06-18-05, 03:28 PM   #34 (permalink)
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yah, i thought it was 1989 as the first and only year of the 3B-II (you can tell by the exhaust manifold)
a 24V PTO winch, now that is a rare beast...
i have come across a few HZJ73s but i have past as they didn't fit my desires for a import...
nice to see one here though, good for him...
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3B-II engine was installed in BJ70's as early as August 1988. By 1989 model year the 3B was gone.

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Dang Wayne, I though you would know! I have noticed some cut and paste errors in his website; my PTO winch was listed as 24V...

I always though the 3B-II was 87. I get confused what actually makes a II. Rotary injection pump, rocker assembly # or what... From what I can tell, there is a 3B, an updated 3B and a 3B-II.

I was just looking at the HZJ 74 though, first one I've seen for sale.
Marko is a very good importer. In the ever growing importing business, I have only come across maybe only one importer that I didn't like.

Marko and Wayne are good ones.
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That was my short list when I bought mine. Came down to who had what and when...

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Wayne, on the topic of importing, is it realistic for a buyer to say to you "I want this model" and want you to find it? Is that how it works?

I ask in case I rob a bank, sell my BJ70 and ask you to bring in one of these for me:


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Ouch.. is that like a major dent on the roof?

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Old 06-18-05, 05:36 PM   #39 (permalink)
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ANother HZJ-73 available.

HZJ-73 for sale

Hey Wayne-O, what's the difference between a HZJ-73/74?

One thing that I dont like with the HZJ73 are those dang auto locking hubs.

Manual hubs rock. Im not lazy, I can get out and lock in my own hubs thank you very much.

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There is no HZJ74. Only 70, 73, 75, 77 in the 7x hz and no turbo

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actually there were 361 HZJ74 built. they started production in May 1999. this model replaced the HZJ73 in the same year...
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Old 06-18-05, 06:22 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Wayne, on the topic of importing, is it realistic for a buyer to say to you "I want this model" and want you to find it? Is that how it works?

I ask in case I rob a bank, sell my BJ70 and ask you to bring in one of these for me:

in a nut shell, yes.

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361.. Lol I'm only current to 96, which isn't current SO like Tom was asking what's the difference in designation then?

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The HZJ74 is a 73 with coil springs on the front-axle (and the 1HZ engine was modified) ... like a 78 Troopie. I can't belief that Toyota only built 361, because they sell/sold them in europe, africa, asia and maybe in australia!?
There are also HZJ71s with the same mods.

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Tonito, what was the engine mod.?

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Old 06-18-05, 07:55 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Toyota built 8221 HZJ73...

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Old 06-18-05, 09:55 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Wayne, I don't know the production date of my JDM 88 BJ-73; however, I know that it sports a 3B-II as original equipment. I haven't had the exhaust manifold off yet, but it has the rotary injection pump that is unique to the 3B-II.

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Well, I definately want an HZJ73 then.

Ive got nothing against that 13BT, but I just love that 1HZ.

What are all your feelings on the electric lockers vs. the cable lockers on the BJ74. I tend to lean towards the cables but it wouldnt stop me from getting a 73.

Are the HZJ-73's much more money than the BJ-74's are costing???


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Wayne, I don't know the production date of my JDM 88 BJ-73; however, I know that it sports a 3B-II as original equipment. I haven't had the exhaust manifold off yet, but it has the rotary injection pump that is unique to the 3B-II.
That's a fallacy. Rotary pumps came on JDM 3Bs at least as early as '81. 3BIIs can be identified by their eight bolt crankshafts (as opposed to 6 on the 3B) and maybe their red paint. The head and exhaust manifold is remarkably different as well.

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Thanks Lowenbrau, I was not aware of that info. I'll check mine closer and see what's what. Hell, if it's a regular 3B, then I'll have no problem using an AXT when the time comes to mount a blower.

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You're welcome. If you do find you have a 3B II I think Crusher's adapter will allow you to bolt an AXT manifold to a 3BII head.

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3BIIs can be identified by their eight bolt crankshafts (as opposed to 6 on the 3B) and maybe their red paint.
That would match the 13BT's change up from the 3B compatible 6 bolt crank to the 8 bolt in 10/1988...iirc. Cept the 13BT went from red paint to blue paint on the block...maybe.

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This is probably when they ceased production of the 1HZ and made only the 1HD
This also happened when they changed from the 75 series to the coil sprung 78/79 series
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The HZJ74 is a 73 with coil springs on the front-axle (and the 1HZ engine was modified) ... like a 78 Troopie. I can't belief that Toyota only built 361, because they sell/sold them in europe, africa, asia and maybe in australia!?
There are also HZJ71s with the same mods.

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I'm not sure about the whole mods on the engine, but one of the mods was a "recycling of exhaust gases"-system to reach the european requirement. I will ask for more information on a german board.
The engine is still in production, you can still order brandnew HZJ71, 74, 78 and 79 here in germany (the 76 was never available in germany), but they are equiped with an aftermarket blackbox and other electronical-stuff to keep the exhaust gases clean, this box is fortunatly not sooo important and the engine runs without it (not like in a defender td5).
The Problem is the price ... around EUR 35000 (CAD 51872.91, USD 42367.50, AUD 54075) ... a bit expensive for a car without any security-systems and comfort and stuff like this

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Question from a newbie: what's JDM?

Also, what does LX mean with BJ7x's? Later model? Extras? This might be an Australian-delivered thing, not sure.

It's good to hear how revered the 75 troopies are on this list. I drive them as work cars, the best way to find out what a truck can really do. And the local Aborigines use them as bush machines for the extended family. I'll get you guys some photos of well-loved 75s. They don't call a car a car around here, they call them Toyotas - as in 'I can't get into town, I haven't got a Toyota'.

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[QUOTE=LowFour]Question from a newbie: what's JDM?

Also, what does LX mean with BJ7x's? Later model? Extras? This might be an Australian-delivered thing, not sure.

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LX is a trim level. Toyota usually had 3-4 trim levels for every Land Cruiser model, depending on the market. In some markets, it was only one, like in the US, in others, there were multiple. LX is usually the next in line after STD, which is usually the basic trim. Again, LX extra vary from market to market, but it usually designates carpet over vynil floors, some form of trim on the doors (instead of the simple vynil), possibly bucket seats with a center console instead of the split bench, etc...

During the early years of the 60 series Canada received both STD and an odd combination of the G and GX trim unique to North America. Narrowing down the specifics is VERY hard to do, because of the infinite variations. My Venezuela-spec FJ60 was nearly identical in trim to the Canada spec BJ60's designated as G trim. But my Venezuela-spec FJ62 is trimmed GX, and there's no significant difference between it and a US spec FJ62, which is not trimmed. Then there's the JDM GXL, like Gary Cobberly's, which has a slew of goodies.
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