Just a thought MK61+, you might consider beefing up the brakes with that kind of weight plus whatever gear you will haul. Might be tough to stop so quickly without beefed up brakes.
Otherwise you have avery unique and well equipped rig there. Congrats!
amazing work, love love love the chassis and everything round it. question though, the roofrack, looks like total overkill. its heavy, bad for c.o.g. and aerodynamics. i wouldnt like to be putting fuel in that thing. but thats me. id design a much more minimalist structure i think.
every a-hole has an opinion, might as well chime in with mine! this thread really makes me wanna do a frame off to work on the chassis
its a pretty frikkin serious machine, well wear
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the roof rack is aluminum so the weight is minimal but yes it is heavy.
it was designed dual purpose, i could have made a light weight unit but then the bridging would be stored either on the sides of the vehicle or inside. this keeps the bridging handy and the sides clean.
no?
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If there is one build I really it's this one this is really a dream machine for all with the overlanding blood in their veins.
I might've missed it can you tell me what the thickness of the alu panels sheets are.
I'm currently equipping my Troopy and love the hatches ,space well utilized
Great project
Johan
the aluminum panels on the inside and rear doors are 3/8" and the front door panels (don't tell the owner) are 1/8"
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i can get the dimensions but no, not at this time, i just don't have time to do the research to find out if this design will fit the different engine bays the engine came in.
i can get some more of the intake to intercooler adapters made up if there is enough interest ...
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as a fellow troopy lover this has been a thoroughly good read. I applaud the effort to document it all.
I noticed the speakers in the front roof console that faced down towards the dashboard... I realise it's still getting built, but I was wondering if have you tested the sound on the speakers in that position at any point whilst driving?
I considered that once on my first troopy to get them clear of water, so I put a couple of low quality box speakers i had up in that position to compare the sound with that from the door position... drove around, windows up/down, changed the angle a little, rock/tecno, lol etc. The door position seemed much better from the drivers seat as you get sound from both speakers, whilst up top was fairly in your face and heavily biased towards the one... in your face. Thus I didn't take the idea further.
Now I'm thinking (hoping) they were pretty cheap speakers I used for the test, and it was over 15 years ago now, so maybe it can actually work, so I'm eager to hear if it sounds good, as I would still love to have speakers up out of the danger zone whilst enjoying good sound.
thanks for the compliment, it has been a treat to build this unit ... and ... a true challenge.
there are speakers facing down and ones facing back, since he is doing the trip mostly by himself he can fine tune the fader and the balance to what he likes.
he also has the option to add an additional speakers in the door and in the rear upper console to give the full bodied sound.
we did try the system installed, but sitting still in the shop, and the sound was real nice.
once the speakers and deck is installed in the BJ70 refurbishing build ( 1985 BJ70 CND refubishing and modifications ) then i will transfer it to my removable hard top 70 to test it on the highway and will report back.
cheers
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Any ideas you have from your troopie experiences i'd be glad to chew on.
Cheers, 61Mk+
Gday 61Mk+,
It seems like you’ve thought of everything… it took me a large number of hours to get through the post just looking at the pictures and a bit of text so I haven’t read absolutely every detail. The only thing I can think of that I didn’t see was reinforcing of the chassis and body mounts, and an engine-run hot water shower, the latter my missus absolutely adores, and well I’d be a liar if I didn’t say it’s also grown on me… nothing like sitting by the fire with a beer and steak after a steaming hot shower! You probably got this in mind though, but you’ll need to plan a space and weld up a mount. Mine goes behind the front left headlight.
But about the reinforcing, while the 70 series are tough, fully loaded at well over 3 tons is another story. For example, my troopy gets loaded to the gills and already has about same amount of perimeter steelwork as yours. Whilst recently driving around in dunes fully loaded at low speed, I went straight over a blind drop on what was visibly on either side an easy 1.2m slope at 45 degrees. Hitting straight on the only vehicle-width spot with a 1m straight drop in 3rd low, the steel bullbar hit ground first, she bounced up and on and I destroyed one of the rear tyres on the rim as they came over (were at 12psi). Bear in mind I have extra heavy duty 2” TJM suspension all around which was unscathed. At first I thought I’d twisted the chassis, but in fact what happened was the cabin section (with all the weight) lurched forward on its body mounts (by about 2”), hitting the front panel section at the bottom of the windscreen, putting a massive fold in the top-middle of the mudguard panel beside the hood, as well as taking bark of all the panel joints and prohibiting me opening the passenger side door. There was obviously a deal of chassis flex in there over the length of the long wheelbase on the first impact contributing to the collision of body sections at an angle, but these had returned to normal when measured at the panel shop.
Now I give my troopy a good run for her money, but I’m definitely not an overly aggressive driver and I don’t consider my misfortune to have been particularly extreme at all, and I can imagine much more forceful offroad situations by anyone slightly more aggressive than myself. So with tons of weight onboard and the intention of not being kind and gentle as you say, I would definitely think about doing some reinforcing here and there to make her more robust at 3.5-4 tons (to be able to resist say getting slightly airborne), as they definitely aren’t built like the 40 series. Don’t ask me how to do it, I’m no engineer and I haven’t done it myself, but after my recent experience I would go all out if I ever stripped her naked. Anyone who’s prepared a TLC for racing would know what to do.
Look forward to seeing how you deck out the inside... that's where you can really start to get pedantic!
i respect what damienperu is sayin though i know the build is being done WAY overkill and the body mounts i would think knowing the builder,,,,are more than acceptable...... (i know this for a fact) i am looking forward too the feedback from 61mk....
i respect what damienperu is sayin though i know the build is being done WAY overkill and the body mounts i would think knowing the builder,,,,are more than acceptable...... (i know this for a fact) i am looking forward too the feedback from 61mk....
yeah i hope i didn't come across as being critical... this is probably the most amazing troopy build i've seen published online! usually only racers reinforce chassis, so i'm sure what's been done is more than adequate, but its seems 61MK+ wants the most extreme troopy in every aspect and the beefing the chassis is one of the few things left he can do to it that occurred to me! i don't think the work is deficient by any means! and all that tank protection will stiffen her up to some extent.
With that said however, my recent experience profoundly changed my perception of an overloaded troopy's capabilities. we overload them by 500 - 600kg over the gross limit for touring, we change the suspension, brakes, even motor accordingly, but is the chassis really over-designed sufficiently to not have to worry about it? i don't know. My little nose dive certainly was enough to force a few profanities from my mouth whilst behind the wheel, but I was absolutely shocked by the damage it caused.
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