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03-20-05, 09:11 PM
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www.gscruiserparts.com They have full floater axles front and rear with cable lockers and other stuff. Then add purchase price and import costs, get a idea of what will cost  I would guess a nice 70 would probably run you around $10,000us??? Or less??? Mine was not stock and I added some other stuff.
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03-21-05, 03:02 AM
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Mostly because I don't want to see this thread die and partly because somebody asked about my rear bumper. Heres another shot of my '86BJ70 as well as one of Charla's '85BJ73
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[Lundbergvoice] "Yeah, Bruce, if you get a moment would you mind getting Dent back on the trail that'd be great, thanks." [/Lundbergvoice]
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03-21-05, 03:49 AM
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I love thems 70's, but that wheelbase is just to damn short for hard core wheeling. Here's what happens with that short wheelbase.
This crap happens all the time with short wheelbase rigs.
At least the 73/74 have an acceptable wheelbase. That's why I want one so bad.
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03-21-05, 06:27 AM
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i see your point
i had a hill named after me on one of the off road courses here in Alberta. i drove ol smokey up and over the second try. the same day a BJ70 tried it and could not make it. i got behind the wheel and i could not make the 70 climb over the top.
this year i am going to try it with the Mits which is 10 " shorter than even the 70 and this will tell me if i want another 74 or 77 as my wheeling rig...
get a canadian spec 70 registered in the states, once registered stretch the frame and mount a 73 or 74 body on it, there you go a legal 74 in the states...
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03-21-05, 06:54 AM
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From my experience 100" to 105 is the best comprimise in wheelbase. I belive the BJ-74 is 104". Or is it 102"? Either way it is the perfect length.
The new Wrangler Unlimited is 103" or so.
Cant wait to get one of those 74's.
How about another?
TB
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03-21-05, 08:15 PM
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TB did you actually hijack the sweetest thread ever and befoul it with Zukers?
The mind boggles.
While we are on the topic of wheelbase though I have to comment. If everything else was equal you'd be right but they are not and neither are you. The mid wheelbase rigs suffer, like 60s, from too much over hang. For an additional 130mm of wheelbase the 73 is 940mm longer than the 70. (these figures from the FAQ, are they correct? Must include the porch) The simple answer is to stretch the WB of your BJ70. My latest plan is for FJ45 leafs in the rear and redrilled BJ60 rears on the front which should give me about 7 inches alone but if I french the mounts I can get 2 or three more. That should get me in the 100 inch range which is close.
Here is a horrible paint concept drawing. Gotta get photoshop.
Last edited by lowenbrau; 03-21-05 at 08:50 PM.
Reason: drinking and typing
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03-21-05, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ridgerunner
[Lundbergvoice] "Yeah, Bruce, if you get a moment would you mind getting Dent back on the trail that'd be great, thanks." [/Lundbergvoice]
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Thanks for the gentle nagging, Brian. I'm on the track now. Wayne was kind enough to help me make another project disappear and that gave me the 3B, H55f and case I needed to resurrect Dent. I was waiting for Marlin to get a Toybox for the five speed and that seems to be happening too. If I could sell the HJ, I'd be able to afford one. I have a 60 series FF c/w cable locker and a line on a front to match. I figure I'm about $5400 and 126.5 hours away from running in the Dent I always wanted. Then its on the 45 again. (jeez this is like deja vue, I said something similar in '97)
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03-21-05, 11:06 PM
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If I could sell the HJ, I'd be able to afford one.
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If the HJ was a BJ42, I'd be knocking at your door.
I for one, am glad I don't own a 70 series. Because if I did I'd be somewhere completely different.
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03-21-05, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lowenbrau
TB did you actually hijack the sweetest thread ever and befoul it with Zukers?
The mind boggles.
While we are on the topic of wheelbase though I have to comment. If everything else was equal you'd be right but they are not and neither are you. The mid wheelbase rigs suffer, like 60s, from too much over hang. For an additional 130mm of wheelbase the 73 is 940mm longer than the 70. (these figures from the FAQ, are they correct? Must include the porch) The simple answer is to stretch the WB of your BJ70. My latest plan is for FJ45 leafs in the rear and redrilled BJ60 rears on the front which should give me about 7 inches alone but if I french the mounts I can get 2 or three more. That should get me in the 100 inch range which is close.
Here is a horrible paint concept drawing. Gotta get photoshop.
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You just said that i was wrong, and then said that youre getting to the 100" mark which is close?
Ok, so what was I wrong about? I said that 100 to 105 is perfect. I never mentioned approach or departure angles. We all know numbers as close to 90 degrees is desireable. Sorry for FOULING your thread with samurais.
TB
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03-21-05, 11:32 PM
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You just said that i was wrong, and then said that youre getting to the 100" mark which is close?
Ok, so what was I wrong about? I said that 100 to 105 is perfect. I never mentioned approach or departure angles. We all know numbers as close to 90 degrees is desireable. Sorry for FOULING your thread with samurais.
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I accept your apology and retract my comment about you being unright. I actually totally agree about the WB but just wanted to point out that Toyota would have really had something if they'd lengthened the WB without adding overhang. It was true with the 40 series too.
My first car was an sj410 but I won't post its picture here
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03-22-05, 01:22 AM
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I accept your apology and retract my comment about you being unright. I actually totally agree about the WB but just wanted to point out that Toyota would have really had something if they'd lengthened the WB without adding overhang. It was true with the 40 series too.
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have a closer look at the pics... yes 70 and 73 series have the same amount of rear overhang
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03-22-05, 02:02 AM
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Mine's not modded very much yet.
Springs, shocks , front + rear electric lockers , winch and F+R bumpers
Next on my list
roll cage (outer and inner)
35inch tires
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03-22-05, 02:04 AM
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The back of it
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03-22-05, 02:58 AM
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Nice truck. Shouldnt that be cable lockers?
Electric aye?
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03-22-05, 08:25 AM
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Nice truck. Shouldnt that be cable lockers?
Electric aye?
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The grille tells you it's a 90-94. Cable lockers were an option in 85-89.
Unless you are telling Rvl he should have installed cable lockers instead
Dave
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03-22-05, 09:19 AM
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I think our rear overhangs are about the same from the factory, Bruce...between your BJ70 and my BJ74. Biggest differences are the huge porch I have on my front end to house the PTO winch, and the gap from axle to axle, yours being shorter and would have slightly better breakover angle.
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03-22-05, 01:28 PM
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Ok that's it, no more drinking and typing for me.
Apologies, Tom and everybody for the confusion and snarky attitude.
Hmmm, I guess Toyota did get it right with the 70 series MWB after all.
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03-22-05, 02:04 PM
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The grille tells you it's a 90-94. Cable lockers were an option in 85-89.
Unless you are telling Rvl he should have installed cable lockers instead
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Well you learn something new everyday.
What would you guys prefer? Cables or electric?
I'd prefer cables meself.
TB
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03-22-05, 03:06 PM
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after seeing what happens inside an elec locker motor i would say the cable but the elec is a sweet setup in the 75...
cheers
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03-22-05, 06:55 PM
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What would you guys prefer? Cables or electric?
I'd prefer cables meself.
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Tom, are you trying to start another 70 vs 80 arguement here? Hmmm?
If anything, cruiserheads will argue until their face is blue what they have in the garage or under their favorite cruiser or what he is selling at the moment is the best. Such is the loyalty we have to our rigs . . .
Dave
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03-22-05, 07:26 PM
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sorry Dave, not all us say what we have in the garage or what we are selling is the best.
for me the best is what fits the bill for the one buying the truck. what is best for me is what ever the wife will let me drive and beat up...
what is the saying?
"the best is yet to come!!"
my next project is sticking my spare 1HZ and H55F into ol smokey, turbo and PI and beat the snot out of it...
i just couldn't retire the body, i built it to do what i want...
cheers
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03-22-05, 08:08 PM
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Ooh, that's news!
I'm glad to hear it. that rig stikes me as a lot of fun waiting to happen. I was so disappointed when I came to the realization that I couldn't buy it.
Got to lose those hideous decals though.
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03-22-05, 08:13 PM
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i am thinking painting it orange with a black stripe...
what do you think?
the LJ71 test truck is getting painted factroy freeborn red while i am in the states and i have a snorkle waiting here to go on as soon as i get back...
cheers
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03-22-05, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lowenbrau
Ooh, that's news!
I'm glad to hear it. that rig stikes me as a lot of fun waiting to happen. I was so disappointed when I came to the realization that I couldn't buy it.
Got to lose those hideous decals though.
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we need to do a week long "lets get dent back on the road" bash at my garage... what do you thnk? i think that would be a blast of a week... i think even Les would be up to help out...
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03-22-05, 08:26 PM
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Heck if I had a whole week in my hometown I wouldn't know what to do with myself. After three weeks in Montreal I'm flying out in the morning and then leaving for Moberly Lake first thing Thursday. I'm bringing back a BJ60 to part out and then maybe, just maybe I'll start on Dent.
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03-22-05, 08:41 PM
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another BJ60?!? just what you need...
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03-24-05, 04:47 AM
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This is my HJ75 1987 which I've had since '88
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03-24-05, 07:34 AM
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This is my HJ75 1987 which I've had since '88
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That looks fun ,where abouts in oz ?
It would be nice to buy a near new 75 and keep it forever
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