Home Forum Gallery Wiki CruiserFAQ Tech Links Product Reviews Store
IH8MUD.com
Go Back   IH8MUD.com > Toyota Tech Forums > 70-Series Tech





Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-07-09, 03:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
Forum Regular

 
Krishanprasad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Fiji Islands
Posts: 61
Exclamation Difference between Diff-lock and hub-locks PLEASE!!!!

i have driven my 80 in all sorts of tropical terrain and used the diff-locks, but the KZJ71 is new to me and i have been told that the diff lock is different from hub locks..... iam confused please some one tell me how to use the hublocks..............


__________________
-HDJ81 with ARB lockers, PIAA lighting
-KZJ71 going through a transformation- Lifts done (more on the list) DAILY RIDE !!!
Iam a former Mitsubishi 4wd fan (those indeed were dark days) who saw the Light and converted to the Toyota Landcruiser and never looked back!!


Krishanprasad is offline   Reply With Quote



Old 09-07-09, 10:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
Forum Regular

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: North Okanagan, BC
Posts: 179
K:

If the hubs are not locked, the front wheels are disconnected from the axles.. Without the hubs locked, you will NEVER have 4WD.

Lock the hubs when you first get off the pavement and you think you may need 4WD - drive as long as you want with the hubs engaged..
If you read your owners manual, typically the manufacturer recommends driving 10% of the time with the hubs engaged.
I engage my hubs in the fall, at the first sign of snow, and dis-engage only when the roads are dry in the spring, or i'm going for a longer trip on the highway.

It is my understanding that most 80's are full-time 4WD, and thus have a differential in the transfer case..

HTH's

__________________
'74 Bronco - RIP
'75 FJ40 - Gone
'81 RamCharger - Gone
'95 XJ - recently Gone
'85 SR5 - Going
'90 HZJ73 - 24V winch, Lift, Auto

Last edited by Jim_Hbar; 09-07-09 at 10:33 AM. Reason: grammar
Jim_Hbar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-09, 02:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
Forum Lifer

 
crushers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 11,934
hub locks on the KZJ71 will be electric. you CAN NOT engage the hub locks on the 'fly'... you need to be at a complete dead stop.
once the hub locks are engaged then you can shift from 2H to 4H at any speed.
diff lock engages the diff locker
hub lock engages the frotn hubs.

__________________
pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt

the truck i want: http://forum.ih8mud.com/70-series-te...ouble-cab.html
the start to the above truck here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/70-series-te...uck-build.html

shit all flows down hill and pools around your feet. The object is to
keep shovelling it away. If the shit is gaining you better figure out
how to shovel faster :-) Dave Stedman 03/20/09

(for any of you going through a divorce, thanks Woody) http://forum.ih8mud.com/1650867-post1.html

Wayne in Ontario
www.luxuryimports.ca
http://www.ivoac.ca join today
crushers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-09, 06:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
Dog is my co-pilot.

 
Josie'sLandCruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seattle, USA
TLCA# 6446
Posts: 2,716
Hi All:

Diff Locks are in the axle center sections (aka differentials.)

Hub Locks are at the outer ends of the axle tubes (usually only on the front axle.)

Lock-out Hubs connect or disconnect the wheels from the axle assembly, while a Diff Lock keeps both axle shafts in an axle assembly turning together.

HTH.

Regards,

Alan

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krishanprasad View Post

i have driven my 80 in all sorts of tropical terrain and used the diff-locks, but the KZJ71 is new to me and i have been told that the diff lock is different from hub locks..... iam confused please some one tell me how to use the hublocks..............

__________________
www.seattlecruiserheads.com

"Cruiserdrew" wrote:

"The very worst thing you can to to a cruiser is half thought out mods that are underfunded and never quite get finished. Then you end up with hacked junk that doesn't work, and some future owner will curse you and all of your children."
Josie'sLandCruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-09, 02:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
Forum Regular

 
Krishanprasad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Fiji Islands
Posts: 61
guys thanks for the response, i really appreciate the info, its just a smart-elec mechanic told me that i cannot turn my vehicle with hub-locks engaged.... i know that using diff-locks with both rear and front engaged in my 80series all wheels turn at the same rate, so not a wise idea to make full turns...

however i wanted to know if i can turn the 71 around with hub-locks engaged and in 4H....

thanks in advance guys...

__________________
-HDJ81 with ARB lockers, PIAA lighting
-KZJ71 going through a transformation- Lifts done (more on the list) DAILY RIDE !!!
Iam a former Mitsubishi 4wd fan (those indeed were dark days) who saw the Light and converted to the Toyota Landcruiser and never looked back!!


Krishanprasad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-09, 05:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
Forum Lifer

 
crushers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 11,934
ummm, if you are in 4H on hard packed surfaces then it is not a wise move to make tight turns.
on loose gravel, dirt, sand, mud, snow, ice, grass then no issue at all.
pavement, hard packed dirt, cement then you are causing severe gear bind and 'CAN' break something... sooner or later.

just saying...

__________________
pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt

the truck i want: http://forum.ih8mud.com/70-series-te...ouble-cab.html
the start to the above truck here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/70-series-te...uck-build.html

shit all flows down hill and pools around your feet. The object is to
keep shovelling it away. If the shit is gaining you better figure out
how to shovel faster :-) Dave Stedman 03/20/09

(for any of you going through a divorce, thanks Woody) http://forum.ih8mud.com/1650867-post1.html

Wayne in Ontario
www.luxuryimports.ca
http://www.ivoac.ca join today
crushers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-09, 11:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
Dog is my co-pilot.

 
Josie'sLandCruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seattle, USA
TLCA# 6446
Posts: 2,716
Hi All:

X2 what "Crushers" wrote!

Regards,

Alan

------------------------------------------------------------
Quote:
Originally Posted by crushers View Post

ummm, if you are in 4H on hard packed surfaces then it is not a wise move to make tight turns.
on loose gravel, dirt, sand, mud, snow, ice, grass then no issue at all.
pavement, hard packed dirt, cement then you are causing severe gear bind and 'CAN' break something... sooner or later.

just saying...

__________________
www.seattlecruiserheads.com

"Cruiserdrew" wrote:

"The very worst thing you can to to a cruiser is half thought out mods that are underfunded and never quite get finished. Then you end up with hacked junk that doesn't work, and some future owner will curse you and all of your children."
Josie'sLandCruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-09, 04:13 AM   #8 (permalink)
Forum Regular

 
Krishanprasad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Fiji Islands
Posts: 61
thanks guys...this is the greatest forum...

__________________
-HDJ81 with ARB lockers, PIAA lighting
-KZJ71 going through a transformation- Lifts done (more on the list) DAILY RIDE !!!
Iam a former Mitsubishi 4wd fan (those indeed were dark days) who saw the Light and converted to the Toyota Landcruiser and never looked back!!


Krishanprasad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-09, 08:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
Dog is my co-pilot.

 
Josie'sLandCruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seattle, USA
TLCA# 6446
Posts: 2,716
Hi All:

No worries!

Be sure to post pics of your rig!

Regards,

Alan

__________________
www.seattlecruiserheads.com

"Cruiserdrew" wrote:

"The very worst thing you can to to a cruiser is half thought out mods that are underfunded and never quite get finished. Then you end up with hacked junk that doesn't work, and some future owner will curse you and all of your children."
Josie'sLandCruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-09, 03:04 AM   #10 (permalink)
Forum Regular

 
Krishanprasad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Fiji Islands
Posts: 61


Josie'sLandCruiser, this is after my farm trip a couple of weeks back, now it sits much higher with 80series springs throughout...

__________________
-HDJ81 with ARB lockers, PIAA lighting
-KZJ71 going through a transformation- Lifts done (more on the list) DAILY RIDE !!!
Iam a former Mitsubishi 4wd fan (those indeed were dark days) who saw the Light and converted to the Toyota Landcruiser and never looked back!!


Krishanprasad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-09, 09:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
Dog is my co-pilot.

 
Josie'sLandCruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seattle, USA
TLCA# 6446
Posts: 2,716
Cool! Keep those photos coming!

-Alan

__________________
www.seattlecruiserheads.com

"Cruiserdrew" wrote:

"The very worst thing you can to to a cruiser is half thought out mods that are underfunded and never quite get finished. Then you end up with hacked junk that doesn't work, and some future owner will curse you and all of your children."
Josie'sLandCruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-09, 12:35 AM   #12 (permalink)
Forum Regular

 
Krishanprasad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Fiji Islands
Posts: 61
hey Alan here are some more pics, in this pic the cruiser now has 80series coils all around...





Can't wait to going mudding with the new coils...... wud put up pics of my next farm trip....


__________________
-HDJ81 with ARB lockers, PIAA lighting
-KZJ71 going through a transformation- Lifts done (more on the list) DAILY RIDE !!!
Iam a former Mitsubishi 4wd fan (those indeed were dark days) who saw the Light and converted to the Toyota Landcruiser and never looked back!!


Krishanprasad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-09, 07:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
Dog is my co-pilot.

 
Josie'sLandCruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seattle, USA
TLCA# 6446
Posts: 2,716
Hi All:

"Krishanprasad," the KZJ71 looks good sitting on the 80 Series springs!

If you are gonna go "mudding" better fit a set of Simex or Super Swamper mud tires!

Regards,

Alan

__________________
www.seattlecruiserheads.com

"Cruiserdrew" wrote:

"The very worst thing you can to to a cruiser is half thought out mods that are underfunded and never quite get finished. Then you end up with hacked junk that doesn't work, and some future owner will curse you and all of your children."
Josie'sLandCruiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-09, 05:00 AM   #14 (permalink)
Forum Lifer

 
crushers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 11,934
(cough) tractor tires kick S/S ass (cough)

__________________
pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt

the truck i want: http://forum.ih8mud.com/70-series-te...ouble-cab.html
the start to the above truck here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/70-series-te...uck-build.html

shit all flows down hill and pools around your feet. The object is to
keep shovelling it away. If the shit is gaining you better figure out
how to shovel faster :-) Dave Stedman 03/20/09

(for any of you going through a divorce, thanks Woody) http://forum.ih8mud.com/1650867-post1.html

Wayne in Ontario
www.luxuryimports.ca
http://www.ivoac.ca join today
crushers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-09, 09:08 AM   #15 (permalink)
Forum Regular

 
Krishanprasad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Fiji Islands
Posts: 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by crushers View Post
(cough) tractor tires kick S/S ass (cough)
Sure thing, im just trying to get my hands on a set of 35' tractor tires, keeping my fingers crossed........

__________________
-HDJ81 with ARB lockers, PIAA lighting
-KZJ71 going through a transformation- Lifts done (more on the list) DAILY RIDE !!!
Iam a former Mitsubishi 4wd fan (those indeed were dark days) who saw the Light and converted to the Toyota Landcruiser and never looked back!!


Krishanprasad is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On








All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:46 AM.


vBulletin® v3.8.4 ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.1
Clubs, Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
©2000-2009 by IH8MUD Inc. - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED


Thanks to all those who have contributed!
One of the largest message boards on the web !