71 series new Arraives 2008 V8 DIESEL - Page 2

lshobie · 10-28-07, 03:40 PM

Well, it you don't use mandrel bends then you will be down to 2.5 inches which is still good - but not as good as 3 inch mandrel. Lots of welds aren't bad. There is a guy in town here with 3 inch stainless, and I can get the mandrel bent j pipes if you need them in stainless or regular steel.

83bj60 · 10-28-07, 04:17 PM

I'm still too busy and have tons of other things to do first but you sure make it very tempting for me to let everything go and just get to your place and get things done there...

M John Galt · 10-28-07, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 83bj60

wrong angle, you got to crawl further down and look at the cross member above the shocks...
Here it is...

Nope, the frame on the BJ-7x is different, there is no channel cross member for the pipe top go over.

Besides the problem with the pipe in the picture is not the diameter, it's the kink that nearly closes the pipe off. Nothing works right if it's not maintained.

83bj60 · 10-29-07, 12:16 AM

That kink is common to all HDJ81s AFAIK. Martin White had the exact same problem, and was told by ATEB they were all like that. Nothing to do with lack of maintenance or some other sort of problem, it's apparently by design.

In any case redoing the exhaust solves the problem. Why am I not surprised...

M John Galt · 10-29-07, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 83bj60

That kink is common to all HDJ81s AFAIK. Martin White had the exact same problem, and was told by ATEB they were all like that. Nothing to do with lack of maintenance or some other sort of problem, it's apparently by design..

in the picture posted the exhaust pipe is clearly KINKED about half closed, and I doubt if it comes from Toyota like that. It comes with a smooth bend, but it's obvious in the pic that someone backed up against something and kinked the pipe, then part of the end rusted of. Clearly a maintenance issue. The design isn't all that great, I'll admit, and I'm glad they didn't do that design on the 7xs.

83bj60 · 10-29-07, 05:34 PM

No kidding John, I just simply can't find the link to this. I'm am sure Martin White reported ATEB as saying it was a factory restriction.

I know it sounds weird, but I remember that very clearly. Something to do with limiting torque.

BiG BoB · 10-29-07, 06:57 PM

Whats the correct model number for these new cruisers? At a dealer I saw one with stickers on the windscreen calling it a 79 Series (however I had a 79 series for work and it was the old shape and 6cyl turbo)

This thread is titled 71 Series, but I have a brochure from Toyota naming it the 70 Series (however the swb isnt featured, only the tryaback, wagon and troopy)

Sean

roscoFJ73 · 10-29-07, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BiG BoB

Whats the correct model number for these new cruisers? At a dealer I saw one with stickers on the windscreen calling it a 79 Series (however I had a 79 series for work and it was the old shape and 6cyl turbo)

This thread is titled 71 Series, but I have a brochure from Toyota naming it the 70 Series (however the swb isnt featured, only the tryaback, wagon and troopy)

Sean

Only a handfull of markets still get a SWB 70 or 71 series. The one signifies a turbo version in some years and in others it means coil front and the new one has both,well so did the previous model

.
The ones pictured above are ME models and not usually diesel,maybe they are dropping the old 1FZ FE.
Makes me wonder if the 7* series will ever see a V8 petrol

The V8 cab chassis is still a 79 series although the dealers are referring to all the new V8 models as the 70 or 79 series depending on who is talking.
(there is no longer a body plate with all the details on the firewall)

Much of the confusion is caused by the fact that since 1984 all the numbers from 70-79 have been used up.
They should have released the new models with a alphabetical suffix to signify it is from new generation of 7* series.
Make the most of them as I believe this will be the last model. With OHS laws becoming more stringent, it will probably be compulsory to have airbags and Toyota have already stated they cannot be fitted to a 7* series.

BiG BoB · 10-30-07, 11:04 PM

Personally I cant see them dropping the line completley, there is just too much need for vehicles of this sort... Nissan have no problems fitting airbags to the Patrol, and Toyota fit them to the 100... Its just a case of a major redesign to incorporate airbags.

I know where I work, there is no other option for what we do, other than a toyota troopy, without heavily customising another full chassis 4wd (deffender/patrol)

Sean

crushers · 10-31-07, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbrowndog

how dare you taunt us like this...you are just a mean big brown dog...
LOL!!

crushers · 10-31-07, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Hbar

By just removing the resonator on my HZJ73, and replacing with 2 1/2" straight pipe, I gained 3 seconds 0 to 100 km/h. Prior to that change, the engine did not want to pull above 3000 rpm..

good to know...

83bj60 · 10-31-07, 05:28 AM

Would be nice to cut the resonator open to see what the restriction was!

roscoFJ73 · 10-31-07, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BiG BoB

Personally I cant see them dropping the line completley, there is just too much need for vehicles of this sort... Nissan have no problems fitting airbags to the Patrol, and Toyota fit them to the 100... Its just a case of a major redesign to incorporate airbags.

I know where I work, there is no other option for what we do, other than a toyota troopy, without heavily customising another full chassis 4wd (deffender/patrol)

Sean

I dont think the end of the 7* series is imminent but it wont go on forever. By then there maybe something in Toyotas line up that can replace it.

Eric Winkworth · 10-31-07, 06:06 AM

v8 diesel shiver... you guys are excited about that?

crushers · 10-31-07, 07:33 AM

you know what i like about that truck?
the side mount rear seats from the factory...cool!!

bigbrowndog · 11-01-07, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by crushers

how dare you taunt us like this...you are just a mean big brown dog...
LOL!!

LOL, Yep that's for sure. Another Hj47 ridden hard and put away wet.

Wonder if the mate will keep the new one as long as the HJ47.

Tapage · 11-01-07, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbrowndog

LOL, Yep that's for sure. Another Hj47 ridden hard and put away wet.

Wonder if the mate will keep the new one as long as the HJ47.

Just wondering if your mate don't want to adopt me .?

I could help driving the new cruiser .

crushers · 11-01-07, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tapage

Just wondering if your mate don't want to adopt me .?

I could help driving the new cruiser .

and here i was hoping you would adopt me to take pics of all those panama ladies...your picture finger must be getting tired by now...

tntoyota · 11-01-07, 12:04 PM

I'm flagging this as porn!!!!!

Oh wait this aint CraigsList,

sager · 01-06-08, 03:04 AM

where they sell this kind of 70series v8d with lhd

83bj60 · 01-06-08, 07:59 AM

Probably everywhere EXCEPT North America

Tapage · 01-10-08, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 83bj60

Probably everywhere EXCEPT North America

We haven't 'em " yet " .. actually only a set of 15 200 Series with the new V8 engine, maybe with luck next year catch some on those 70 series V8

Thommo 73 · 01-13-08, 03:36 AM

i just want to know why we dont get the shorty in oz...

Tapage · 01-14-08, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Thommo 73

i just want to know why we dont get the shorty in oz...

Not .. ? how that impress me .. I hotught always OZ get all better stuff in Cruiser world ..

Thommo 73 · 01-16-08, 03:54 AM

most of toyotas stuff yeah, but toyota oz carnt see the market for a shorty

i can.......

we get every other 70 just no shortys or middys (the only ones i want!)

we didnt even get the coil sprung middys! in the 90's

roscoFJ73 · 01-16-08, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Thommo 73

most of toyotas stuff yeah, but toyota oz carnt see the market for a shorty

i can.......

we get every other 70 just no shortys or middys (the only ones i want!)

we didnt even get the coil sprung middys! in the 90's

Because everyone looked at the SWB Patrols and the Pajeros and thought the Landcruiser SWB and MWB overpriced by $5-$10K.
The MWB in 1988 was $33K,about the same price as a 380 SEL Mercedes in oz and the dollar was worth something like 50c USD
When they are in the showroom all shiny and smelling so good ,no one looks underneath to see what they are made of,no one looks 10-20 years down the track.

beast2h · 01-20-08, 03:20 AM

id love to have a v8 shorty here in aus

Haya · 01-23-08, 01:37 PM

Hi Il live in the uae .
Do you sell these.

How much are they ?
Any other models coming in saaoudi ofthe 70 series in V8 diesel.
Regards,

Haya

10-28-07, 03:40 PM	#31
lshobie IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,792	Well, it you don't use mandrel bends then you will be down to 2.5 inches which is still good - but not as good as 3 inch mandrel. Lots of welds aren't bad. There is a guy in town here with 3 inch stainless, and I can get the mandrel bent j pipes if you need them in stainless or regular steel. __________________ Louis Join the True North Toyota Land Cruiser Club in Ottawa http://toyotalandcruiser.blogspot.com/ Join the IVOAC here to keep JDM's coming - www.ivoac.ca Dealers join the CAVI to protect your rights - and keep the JDM's coming- www.CAVI.ca

10-28-07, 04:17 PM	#32
83bj60 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Laurentians North of Montreal, QC Posts: 1,340	I'm still too busy and have tons of other things to do first but you sure make it very tempting for me to let everything go and just get to your place and get things done there... __________________ 91HDJ81VX (The Beast), 4B JDM, since Nov 06 83BJ60 (The Old Faithful), Still Running, Gone to a New Home 83BJ60 (Rusty but Trusty), Dec 90 - July 98, Parted Out 76FJ40 (Big Red), April 87 - July 93

10-29-07, 12:16 AM	#34
83bj60 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Laurentians North of Montreal, QC Posts: 1,340	That kink is common to all HDJ81s AFAIK. Martin White had the exact same problem, and was told by ATEB they were all like that. Nothing to do with lack of maintenance or some other sort of problem, it's apparently by design. In any case redoing the exhaust solves the problem. Why am I not surprised... __________________ 91HDJ81VX (The Beast), 4B JDM, since Nov 06 83BJ60 (The Old Faithful), Still Running, Gone to a New Home 83BJ60 (Rusty but Trusty), Dec 90 - July 98, Parted Out 76FJ40 (Big Red), April 87 - July 93

10-29-07, 05:34 PM	#36
83bj60 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Laurentians North of Montreal, QC Posts: 1,340	No kidding John, I just simply can't find the link to this. I'm am sure Martin White reported ATEB as saying it was a factory restriction. I know it sounds weird, but I remember that very clearly. Something to do with limiting torque. __________________ 91HDJ81VX (The Beast), 4B JDM, since Nov 06 83BJ60 (The Old Faithful), Still Running, Gone to a New Home 83BJ60 (Rusty but Trusty), Dec 90 - July 98, Parted Out 76FJ40 (Big Red), April 87 - July 93

10-31-07, 05:28 AM	#42
83bj60 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Laurentians North of Montreal, QC Posts: 1,340	Would be nice to cut the resonator open to see what the restriction was! __________________ 91HDJ81VX (The Beast), 4B JDM, since Nov 06 83BJ60 (The Old Faithful), Still Running, Gone to a New Home 83BJ60 (Rusty but Trusty), Dec 90 - July 98, Parted Out 76FJ40 (Big Red), April 87 - July 93

10-29-07, 06:57 PM	#37
BiG BoB IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 111	Whats the correct model number for these new cruisers? At a dealer I saw one with stickers on the windscreen calling it a 79 Series (however I had a 79 series for work and it was the old shape and 6cyl turbo) This thread is titled 71 Series, but I have a brochure from Toyota naming it the 70 Series (however the swb isnt featured, only the tryaback, wagon and troopy) Sean

10-30-07, 11:04 PM	#39
BiG BoB IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 111	Personally I cant see them dropping the line completley, there is just too much need for vehicles of this sort... Nissan have no problems fitting airbags to the Patrol, and Toyota fit them to the 100... Its just a case of a major redesign to incorporate airbags. I know where I work, there is no other option for what we do, other than a toyota troopy, without heavily customising another full chassis 4wd (deffender/patrol) Sean

10-31-07, 06:06 AM	#44
Eric Winkworth IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,239	v8 diesel shiver... you guys are excited about that? __________________ 1986 BJ70, 24v with a 3B

10-31-07, 07:33 AM	#45
crushers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 8,896	you know what i like about that truck? the side mount rear seats from the factory...cool!! __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt contact me at wayne@crushersrule.com Wayne Owen Sound Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca separating the rumours from the truth. join today www.CAVI.ca Dealers join the CAVI to protect your rights

11-01-07, 12:04 PM	#49
tntoyota * Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nashville TN...But I miss Richlands NC Posts: 1,190	I'm flagging this as porn!!!!! Oh wait this aint CraigsList,

01-06-08, 03:04 AM	#50
sager IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3	where they sell this kind of 70series v8d with lhd

01-06-08, 07:59 AM	#51
83bj60 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Laurentians North of Montreal, QC Posts: 1,340	Probably everywhere *EXCEPT North America* __________________ 91HDJ81VX (The Beast), 4B JDM, since Nov 06 83BJ60 (The Old Faithful), Still Running, Gone to a New Home 83BJ60 (Rusty but Trusty), Dec 90 - July 98, Parted Out 76FJ40 (Big Red), April 87 - July 93

01-13-08, 03:36 AM	#53
Thommo 73 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Australia Vic Posts: 28	i just want to know why we dont get the shorty in oz...

01-16-08, 03:54 AM	#55
Thommo 73 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Australia Vic Posts: 28	most of toyotas stuff yeah, but toyota oz carnt see the market for a shorty i can....... we get every other 70 just no shortys or middys (the only ones i want!) we didnt even get the coil sprung middys! in the 90's

01-20-08, 03:20 AM	#57
beast2h IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East Gippsland Victoria Australia Posts: 31	id love to have a v8 shorty here in aus __________________ 75 Series Ute and 95 Series Prado Prado:http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/s...ad.php?t=31767 75series:http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/forum/f...83/#post498525

01-23-08, 01:37 PM	#58
Haya IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5	Hi Il live in the uae . Do you sell these. How much are they ? Any other models coming in saaoudi ofthe 70 series in V8 diesel. Regards, Haya