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Old 06-20-07, 08:41 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Looking good Bruce!

Keep it coming - great thread!

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I got a bunch of help yesterday and we were able to get the axles in. I've been looking forward to this part for quite a while now and I'm really glad to have that heavy work done.
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The side panel constuction starts tonight. They will flip open for access to the wheelwell space. Hopefully there will be room for a yellow top optima and an air top webasto down there.

Here is the elevation from the rear.

Where did you learn to draw! You don't put dimensions inside of your object.

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Wow, looks great! How about a shot from the side?

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From the last photo it looks nice and low. Did you de-arch the front springs at all?

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It's still under tent city while I finish the rollcage so the poser shots will have to wait until next weekend. Between then and now I have address the following...

Shocks, (Peter and Marc made the hoops already)
Brakelines
Connect parking brake
Have drive shafts lengthened
Modify crossmember
Tap the DOM for the tierod and draglink
Retaper the pitman arm
Reconnect fuel lines (relocated to facilitate hydraulic tank install)

That'll get it moving.

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Winch stuff...
Install hyrdaulic tank
Connect hydraulic lines
Build PTO shaft
reconfigure PTO to face rearward
Install fairlead
splice hook onto Amsteel blue

Rollcage, rack stuff

Finish welding halo of cage
Create mount on cage leg for third battery
Intall spreader bars, side and front.
Weld plate gussets for roof rack mounting.
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Mount Roof top tent
Mount NATO Cans or spare tire (undecided)
Find a place for whatever does not end up on roof. (tire on door maybe)

Bumpers

Need new frame connections front and back
Need new towpoints, back


That's all that's possible before we head to AK in a week and a half

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Looking GREAT Bruce!

We had or first outing with the Toyos. 1200km on the weekend and they worked well on the road and back roads of Northern Sask. I gained 4mpg over the XMLs!! I think you will really like them.

I haven't tried them out in the skeg yet....we'll see how that goes.

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Looking GREAT Bruce!

We had or first outing with the Toyos. 1200km on the weekend and they worked well on the road and back roads of Northern Sask. I gained 4mpg over the XMLs!! I think you will really like them.

I haven't tried them out in the skeg yet....we'll see how that goes.
It's nice of hear about the mileage improvement. I wasn't expecing that much.

I'm really nervous to see how the tires do in the muck. I'm not expecting Bogger performance but if they act like MTRs, I'm doomed.

What size did you end up with Brad?

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Your doggie needs a pair of welding goggles.
Yeah, it was storming out and he's got a policy to be within a meter of me when its lightning. I guess he figures I'll get struck first because I'm taller.

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I agree, if they are like the MTRs I am in big trouble. I guess I can always groove them up to open up the tread.

I went with the 38x14.5R16 on a 10" wide rim and 4.5" BS with the sky kit up front and spacers in the rear. Some rubbing on the front inner fender, but not bad. The combo is 25lbs lighter per tire compared to the XML. So that's a 100lbs of rotating mass gone. My rig made over 20mpg, I haven't seen that since it was stock.

Oh, and the measure .5" shorter then the worn XMLs on the truck. I wish they where a little taller.


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Old 06-25-07, 12:43 PM   #133 (permalink)
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That's all that's possible before we head to AK in a week and a half
The good news is you left yourself lots of time for field testing before heading off on any sort of LONG trip...

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I'm really nervous to see how the tires do in the muck. I'm not expecting Bogger performance but if they act like MTRs, I'm doomed.
Did you decide aginst the trailer full of tractor tires for AK?

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Did you post somewhere your AK schedule? If not, can you fill me in? I got yard space in Fairbanks if you need a place to crash; shower, restock your supplies, ect.. I will mostlikely only be home in Fairbanks on the weekends though I will be in Anchorage during the week and could let you use a shower and stuff. Would be great to be able to meet you and your rig

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Old 06-26-07, 12:45 AM   #135 (permalink)
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It's still under tent city while I finish the rollcage so the poser shots will have to wait until next weekend. Between then and now I have address the following...

Shocks, (Peter and Marc made the hoops already)
Brakelines
Connect parking brake
Have drive shafts lengthened
Modify crossmember
Tap the DOM for the tierod and draglink
Retaper the pitman arm
Reconnect fuel lines (relocated to facilitate hydraulic tank install)

That'll get it moving.

Then,
Winch stuff...
Install hyrdaulic tank
Connect hydraulic lines
Build PTO shaft
reconfigure PTO to face rearward
Install fairlead
splice hook onto Amsteel blue

Rollcage, rack stuff

Finish welding halo of cage
Create mount on cage leg for third battery
Intall spreader bars, side and front.
Weld plate gussets for roof rack mounting.
build roof rack,
Mount Roof top tent
Mount NATO Cans or spare tire (undecided)
Find a place for whatever does not end up on roof. (tire on door maybe)

Bumpers

Need new frame connections front and back
Need new towpoints, back


That's all that's possible before we head to AK in a week and a half
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Well Bruce, your list makes me feel better about mine.

I've got all of the big stuff handled, but I'm left with a laundry list of smaller jobs still. I pushed the start time back to far in favor of working on rigs for paying customers.

Sounds like you're not hauling tractor tires along with you? Are you planning on bringing the trailer along (I seem to remember you were doing a tent trailer thing with it)?

I'd be a little leery of how those tires will perform in the softer stuff. But who knows... We've got a couple of shorter sections that we know will be boggy. A couple of longer sections that will be muddy, but shouldn't be a problem. Once we pass about 75-80 miles we'll be in unknown country. I know from eyeballing through a spotting scope and sat photos that we've got a pretty rocky area right after that as we climb through the pass between Goose and Gilbert Creeks. Beyond there... No idea if it will be rocky, muddy, tundra or something else (Probably a pretty fair mix of all of that).

Anyway, more aggressive tires couldn't be a bad thing on this run. But worse comes to worse we'll just have to toss you the strap a little more often.

Stephan, I'm pretty sure that Bruce is heading straight to the trail head from home and then heading back as soon as we get back to the road.


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Yeah fellas, I have an ace in the hole. I have a heck of a good and talented bunch of pals who will help me get my arse out of a sling! We'll see how many of them will do it on a long weekend when they should be wheeling.

I secretly believe that these tires will work OK in all but the most chewed up muskeg. If I can get in behind the trail boss and straddle the tracks I think we can keep up the momentum. I haven't asked but I'm pretty sure Crushers would lend me his tractor tires if I needed them. I had planned to not bring the trailer and that would still be my preference but if we run out of time it would answer some questions like "Where to carry four jerry cans?" "Where to mount the spare tire?". and " Do I have to get the roof rack finished before we leave? I wonder if we can pull it in for the first couple of days and then abandon it with the return fuel and all but the most critical supplies and rally without it for the middle four or five days. Alternately, we could leave it at the Roadhouse. I am carrying 150' of rope on the hydraulic winch and I mounted the handle in the truck this time (rather than through the hood) so I can winch and drive without someone sitting on the hood.

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I would not loose any sleep over the tires. Only gonna be four rigs and aftere the first day, the only traffic on the "trail" is a once yearly visit by a couple of buggy drivers. Once we reach their hunting camp, I expect to be in virgin country so the only "chewing" will be what we do. The other rigs are all on 40 or 42 inch Boggers or Swampers so the primary approach is gonna be crawl through/over the soft stuff. 95%+ your tires will be more than suitable. You may just have to work a little harder int he other 5%.

Currently I am expecting to pull an M416 with fuel and gear in to about the 75 mile mark. I'm sure that there will be room for some of your stuff if need be, or a bit of diesel too.


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Bruce,
the tractor tires are yours for ht easking...i have 6 mounted up ready to go...
but i would like to know ASAP when you know...

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the tractor tires are yours for ht easking...i have 6 mounted up ready to go...
but i would like to know ASAP when you know...
Thanks, Wayne I'll know more this weekend.

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Stephan, thanks for he offer but I don't think we'll make it to Fairbanks.

The schedule looks something like this.
Depart Calgary AB for Fort St John BC 952km. 9.5 hours Friday, July 06, 2007
Depart Fort ST. John BC for Liard Hot Springs BC 425 mi. 7.5 hours Saturday, July 07, 2007
Depart Liard Hot Springs BC for Whitehorse YT 647 km 7.5 hours Sunday, July 08, 2007
Depart Whitehorse YT for Tok AK 621 km 7.5 hours Monday, July 09, 2007
Depart Tok AK for Anchorage AK 318 mi 5.5 hours Tuesday, July 10, 2007
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On trail Friday, July 13, 2007
Off trail Saturday, July 21, 2007
To Valdez Sunday, July 22, 2007
Day in Valdez Monday, July 23, 2007
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Depart McCarthy AK for Destruction Bay YT 484 mi 11 hours Wednesday, July 25, 2007
Depart Destruction Bay YT for Liard Hot Springs BC 907 km 11 hours Thursday, July 26, 2007
Depart Liard Hot Springs BC for Fort ST. John BC 425 mi. 7.5 hours Friday, July 27, 2007
Day in Fort St. John? last day with Charla (booh) Saturday, July 28, 2007
Depart Fort St, John BC for Calgary AB 595 mi. 9.5 hours Sunday, July 29, 2007
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The truck looks great Bruce. I can't wait to see it in action.

I can't say I miss the frantic last minute pre-trip wrenching - I had enough of that a few weeks ago getting ready for Rubithon.

FWIW, I saw the Toyo's in action on the trail and I noticed they have a much more "open" tread pattern than the MTRs. Still I'm not sure anything short of a hover craft can clear some of those AK bogs.

See you soon,

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Looks great Bruce! I hope I will have the chance to see this beast in
person when you get up here. I am not able to get the time off of
work to join the expedition in my 40...so I will have to wheel vicariously
through you.

Good luck getting it done and have a safe trip!

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The weekend went really well. The list is now whittled down to the items in red. The big items are rear brakes and shock mounts. Also, missing from the list is exhaust. I'll take drop it at the exhaust shop tomorrow for a nice straight piece of 2.5"

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item project status
Brakes
front
10mmto-3 adapter done
flex -3 90 degree at caliper done
new hard-line, flex to 't' done
Flex from 't' to -3 to 10mm adapter at frame done
rear
new hard-line, wheels to 't'
new flex line to frame


parking
merge factory 60 and 70 series parking brake hardware

Steering
Arms
Drill and ream PS knuckle arm for TRE done
Drill and ream Pitman arm for TRE done
Rods
shorten draglink ~1" on the Left hand thread end save scrap, tap deeper done
Weld threaded scrap to tie rod to hold tap straight done
weld 7/8" nut to other end to hold tap straight done
Cut off scrap and nut when finished and install done
Steering Stabilizer
Install


Front bumper
Mounts
Drill mounts and frame for bolts done
Bolt together done
Accessories
Weld wheel studs to bulbar to mount high lift night go on tire carrier
Weld tab for CB antenna no CB for AK, ham only




Rear bumper
Mounts
Run 1/4 plate though bumper form frame done
weld additional plate beside for d ring mounts done

Tire carrier
weld spindle to bumper done
build carrier using 2x2 tubing done

Fuel can carrier
weld spindle to bumper done
build carrier using 2x2 tube and flat bar done


Tent
Cage
RE fish mouth halo done
weld halo to legs done
weld 1/4" tabs for tent mount needs welding
reinstall roof need bolts
hole saw roof for sleeves done
bolt tent to cage via sleeves tighten once welded

Winch
Hydraulics
rinse hydraulic tank with varsol done
install tank done
tighten PTO pump and mounts done
install hoses done
install PTO done
Build PTO driveshaft done
winch line
remove fairlead from Shaker and install
spice hook into end of line.
Rear suspension
Leafs
Remove pack and re-drill if required for 7/16 center pins not req.
Add Belton leaf to pack not req.

Shocks
Build top and bottom mounts
Install shocks


Driveshafts
T-case
Replace front output flange with old style done
install DC front shaft done
Install modified cross member done
Install rear shaft (measure for new shaft if too short) done

Oil T-case done
tranny Change all oils done
front diff done
rear diff done

Air compressor
Compressor
install in fender well

tank
install under truck done
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Damn, that is looking very good. Those rims look great on it.

My wife would cut me off if our driveway looked like that

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