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08-31-06, 04:21 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
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I wonder if you would see through a blatant shopping list that I could put together in hopes that you'd build my dream truck, tire of it and sell it to me next summer in time to take to all the TLCA events? Probably not.
I think you should basically build another one like you did with Micheal's. Add some rocker protection this time and some cool custom bumpers. A set of jump seats like you had in Smokey, a 24V 8274, A set of lockers and a toybox... wait that is pretty much my dream truck list. Never mind, you're on your own. 
__________________ Rocky Mountain Land Cruiser Association TLCA # 5513 '87BJ74, '86BJ70, '78FJ45, '53M100, '90M101cdn I support our Troopies |
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08-31-06, 05:08 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Wayne, I have met you once and have merely read a whole lot of your email so I am clearly not a good judge of your character, nevertheless, this is my read on your personality. I would like you to know that these comments are not intended to yank your chain they are just comments. ---granted You're a big guy and have big presence when you enter a room. ---LOL!! so i am told... You also seem to get bored fast (no insult intended as I too have the attention span of a bumble bee). So lets put these two observations together: a plain old stock 70 wont get the attention you like and it is boring and useless. ---hummm, bingo. that sounds about right... This near new 70 will only impress a few folks, and of those they will only be those types that know what it is. A dressed up 70 has more appeal and will draw more attention universally cause all that bling just does. Also, a dressed up 70 has greater utility than a stock 70. Once again no insult intended as I too want to dress up my 70 for the same reasons. And lets face it a stock 70 is kinda boring, particularly one that you would not abuse because you want to preserve it. ---yep, one of the main reasons i have sold many of the cruisers i have bought. i can't stand having to worry about "parking lot dings" or other "ooops" that happen in everyday life... Why keep it around if you cant use it in the fashion you would like? Yeah sure it is something rare and should be charished as such. --- the main reason of my problem and this thread... On the other hand, a stock cruiser is boring (yeah I know I said that already) and is not really an extension of your personality. ---agree completely After all, a stock cruiser is what you look for when you buy to import and resell. Yup, nice stock cruisers, or at least that is what I have ascertained from the stock you have sold. There will alwways be another nice cruiser around the corner. ---but not one like this, these are rare and this one especially... So here is my vote. No matter what you do, dress it up, store it as stock, drive it as stock, or whatever, you are going to get bored with it. So while you have it you might as well have fun with it. Dress it up and beat the hell out of it. If you have doubts ask yourself this: is there any such thing as a collectable cruiser? ---definately If there is, is it accessable and marketable? Sure we all love our cruisers, but you really got to ask yourself, who beyond us freakjobs, would buy a cruiser like that and consder it a real treasure or a real collectable? ---to the right person, yes. but how long before the right person comes along? Is there really a market for it? If it really was a collectable do you think it would have sold for the price you paid? Is it going to appreciate enough to pay for itself, your boredom and storage? ---yes, it already has BUT not enough to pay for boredom i guess... If you want to collect a vehicle that will appreciate and be considered collectable sell this thing and buy some other neat vehicle on auction like an old mopar or mercedes or something. Even then, do you have it in the fabric of your personality to let it sit there? ---i highly doubt it... maybe if i never see it as in stored in a quonset under cover sheet I tried it once with that damn Jeep I had. It drove me nuts. It just sat there in the garage because I did not want to dent it or get it dirty. In the end I sold it and used the cash to buy cruiser stuff that i could use and abuse. I did not gain or lose any money. I felt better when I sold it because i did not realize how much it pissed me off that I could not use it. ---when i bought the 89 BJ74 with 27,000 km on it i felt i would keep that one for life or till the first time i took it out when i went for lunch. i watched as people parked next to it and worried about the darn thing so much i had a rotten meal. i ended up selling it to the right owner and he loves it and babies it (he has a whole 2000km racked up on it in 2 years). i was happy to see it go to a good home. I am sure that once you get bored with it you are going to either sell it or dress it up, either way you are going to feel bad because of what it once was. So why worry about it? Dress it up and drive the snot out of it, sell it then go hunting again. After all thats the fun part, the hunting that is. ---that is so true, it is not the aquiring of material goods, it is the locating of them...at least for guys like us... Forgive me for permitting myself the latitude to assess you, ---not a problem, you seem to hit the nail on the head... Karl[/quote] __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today |
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08-31-06, 05:11 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Bruce, IF i build it up and go to sell it i will give you first dibs... (it won't have a toybox)... but i won't hold on to it in the back yard for 3 years this time though...LOL!! __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today |
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09-01-06, 01:55 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Panamá
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To keep one vehicle ( no matter what kind of ) as classic clean for years and years .. you can't use it as DD .. with luck some weekend with no rain and in a free ways ..
And .. ! with much carefull .. but someday one luck basta*** crash you .. and waht about all days that you keep it in you safety and no humidity garage .. ? wated time .. ! So enjoy it now !!!! |
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09-01-06, 04:03 PM
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Auckland NZ via Vancouver Island Canada
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Wayne ~ question
Now that we have the same truck, you have a vested interest in my endless questions!
 Do you think one could get a FRP hardtop on our rig? __________________ MOOSE SOLD HER - SOMEDAY SOON JDM's...THEY SAVED THE BEST FOR THEMSELVES!! |
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09-05-06, 06:11 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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i have not seen one but then i havn't really been looking either...
if i did find one i have a feeling it would be expensive to buy and expensive to ship... __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today |
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09-14-06, 10:52 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
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__________________ 1964 FJ40 | 1966 M416 | 1976 FJ40 | 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power| 1997 FZJ80 | TDI commuter car Rising Sun; Former CLCC You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound  Real Change is here --> Cato Institute |
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09-14-06, 11:41 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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a message for those that want it??
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09-16-06, 09:13 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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so it is sitting in Vancouver and should be here pretty quick...
am i excited? yes. i am getting the same tinglies that i did when i started on the HZJ75 and then the PZJ75 so this is good... the decision has been made to "upgrade" the unit with a lift, front bumper, factory snorkel and modified aluminium door and side panels (with side facing seats covered to match the fronts), brand new top and other bits as well as a set of skinny agressive tires (or maybe even a custom grooved set, i love the look of the last set we groved). for now it is all bolt on (reversable) mods i am doing, then once i am done i can either take it to the next level or drive it for a while and then turn it back to stock in a weekend... (other mods that are crossing my mind are turbo, intercooler, propane injection (for an estimated 170+ hp) and a PS install but this is after i have decided to keep the truck for a long duration... just thought some of you might want to know the choice i made. once the truck arrives i will start a new thread with the mods taking place... cheers __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today |
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09-16-06, 10:21 AM
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Auckland NZ via Vancouver Island Canada
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How do you reverse a snorkel install? __________________ MOOSE SOLD HER - SOMEDAY SOON JDM's...THEY SAVED THE BEST FOR THEMSELVES!! |
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09-16-06, 10:39 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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new upper panel...
__________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today |
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09-16-06, 10:45 AM
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Auckland NZ via Vancouver Island Canada
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I really like your idea here....install all of these juicy bits, get sick of them, and then sell them all to me for 1/2 price? __________________ MOOSE SOLD HER - SOMEDAY SOON JDM's...THEY SAVED THE BEST FOR THEMSELVES!! |
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09-16-06, 11:12 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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LOL!!
tempting but probably just move them onto the next rig... __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today |
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09-16-06, 12:49 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
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when has anyone taken mods off a truck like a snorkel,suspension, turbo, etc.
Once it's on it pretty much aint never going back to stock. my .02 __________________ 1964 FJ40 | 1966 M416 | 1976 FJ40 | 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power| 1997 FZJ80 | TDI commuter car Rising Sun; Former CLCC You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound Real Change is here --> Cato Institute |
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09-16-06, 02:24 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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what you say is true, when it comes to snorkels, suspension and engine mods...
that is why i am looking at a factory snorkel to maintain the factory look but realisticly, you are correct, other than the bumper, all the mods would end up going with the truck to the new owner... __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today |
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09-18-06, 03:39 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Panamá
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reverse those changes .. sorry Wayne, but If I made all mods that you plan, I never think in back to stock this cruiser .. !
I love your numbers 170 turbo propane !
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09-26-06, 11:48 AM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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man oh man the truck arrived yesterday, passed the OOP with just a burnt out head light (pre DTRL requirement) but will be changing them out to LHD headlights anyway.
the truck is just too nice, damn it, i was hoping to find a serious flaw, one that would allow me to easily make up my mind on what to do with it... showed it off to a couple buddies to get their opinion but they didn't help me much... the rubber floor mats are in EXCELLENT shape, the seats have no tears and just one flaw in the passenger side. all the panels are perfect... damn, damn, what to do... the glass is perfect as is the dash, a new top is on it's way... and i have all these parts sitting here... <shrug, oh well Berni has said nothing can be done till we get back from Ontario> (anyone want an ultra clean BJ70 ragtop with 20,500 km on it?) __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today |
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09-26-06, 12:05 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
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I drove that POS this morning. Nothing special really. You should part it out. :P
Seriously, its as much like a brand new truck as I can imagine and yet not so terribly different than my mostly stock BJ70 with 540,000kms. I understand your conundrum, Wayne. If ever there was a BJ70 that belonged in a museum this would be the one. OTOH I'm not sure any Cruiser belongs in a museum. __________________ Rocky Mountain Land Cruiser Association TLCA # 5513 '87BJ74, '86BJ70, '78FJ45, '53M100, '90M101cdn I support our Troopies |
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09-26-06, 03:58 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
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__________________ 1964 FJ40 | 1966 M416 | 1976 FJ40 | 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power| 1997 FZJ80 | TDI commuter car Rising Sun; Former CLCC You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound Real Change is here --> Cato Institute |
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09-26-06, 04:22 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cranbrook BC
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Hey Wayne,
Glad to hear its so clean. I gotta come out to Calgary one weekend and go for a trip with you guys. I would love to see the 70 as well. As for what to do with it? Hmm, good question. If is as perfect as you say (which I believe), you could drive it for a bit (summer pavment princess only) and sell it. Use it, enjoy it, then sell it to a collector. Someone will pay lots for it. If you can hang onto it until its 25 years old (so it can go to the US) you could make quite a few bucks, as well as enjoy it in the meantime. So my opinion for what its worth: Drive it for a few years around town for pleasure use only. Keep it in the same shape and keep it orginal, right down to the tires. Maybe even put different rims/rubber on it while you drive it, and keep the current stuff in the same shape. Only take it out on nice dry summer days. Keep the KM's low and the condition high, and flip it in 2012 when it can go to the US. Keep your PZJ70 for wheeling and fun. Cheers, Nick BTW: Post some more pics when you have a chance. __________________ 1988 BJ74 / Lots of goodies - Sold 1990 HDJ81 / Fully outfitted loaded beautiful truck - Rolled 1985 BJ60 / Beautiful Stock truck - Stolen |
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09-26-06, 05:21 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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the PZJ70 is my wheeling rig...
i hav ehad this discussion with Bruce and neither one of us really are the "drive on sunny sunday" type of truck owners... i really don't know why i keep doing this to myself... it sure would look nice all done up... __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today |
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09-26-06, 05:48 PM
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it's a wooly worm
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09-26-06, 05:53 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Must resit the temptation. How about you make the PZJ look even better instead. Quote:
__________________ 1988 BJ74 / Lots of goodies - Sold 1990 HDJ81 / Fully outfitted loaded beautiful truck - Rolled 1985 BJ60 / Beautiful Stock truck - Stolen |
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09-26-06, 06:31 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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the truck came off the train yesterday, OOP passed and off to the shine shop. we removed the soft top for a real good cleaning and as we were doing so the top disinigrated so this is what she looks like for now...
(new factory top is on its way) updated pics: __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today |
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09-26-06, 06:32 PM
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2004
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some more:
mint door panels, dash and seats. the passenger seat has a stain on it... __________________ pulling this info out of my ass so take it with a pound of salt "People are poor because they don't spend money wisely, tough sh!t !!! " John Galt 09/22/08 "educate yourself. Sorry if that seems too blunt." John Galt 11-01-08 Wayne in Ontario http://www.ivoac.ca join today |
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