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Diesel for blood
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: west australia
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Suspension seat
I got offered some suspension seat frames. They are supposed to be from a BJ74 but I cant work out how I would fit them.
Obviously the base of the suspension seat bolts to the floor in different holes than the seat is currently bolted to.(Hopefully they are predrilled and under the carpet) The seats in my 73 are on a floor that is higher around the transmission hump but the suspension frame seems to need seats with a flat base. Am I missing a part that fits between my seats and the suspension base or do I need the appropriate seats that go with a suspension base frame?? I think the seats are supposed to bolt to where the 4 finger tight bolts are They have surface rust but are complete and seem to be ok with all the controls working. The one in the pic is RH __________________ HZJ75 cab chassis 95 model ,stocker FJ73+1HZ Diesel NEW GEARBOX 1HZ =same power as 3F with 30% better fuel economy 2in Dobinsons lift.Powerdown adj shocks 33 in BFG A/T HJ61 with slidin windas regrettfully SOLD:(Volvo 740 GL Last edited by roscoFJ73; 07-14-06 at 09:01 AM. |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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the floor is actually different between the suspension seat equiped 74 and the fixed mounted seat...
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Diesel for blood
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: west australia
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Just seems odd they would design a different floor. The seller says they wont go into his HZJ75 troopy but they would fit his BJ73(stolen and unrecovered) or so he thought. __________________ HZJ75 cab chassis 95 model ,stocker FJ73+1HZ Diesel NEW GEARBOX 1HZ =same power as 3F with 30% better fuel economy 2in Dobinsons lift.Powerdown adj shocks 33 in BFG A/T HJ61 with slidin windas regrettfully SOLD:(Volvo 740 GL |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Telkwa, BC
Posts: 251
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Thanks for that tip Wayne. I have been on the lookout for these bases...didnt know floors were different!! Wierd...
__________________ 88 LandCruiser HJ61, ARB springs, other bush goodies 87 Hilux LN65 stock 92 Hiace SCL |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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just to clarify,
we tried putting a seto f suspension seats from a BJ70 into a BJ74 and the floor did not accept the seats... cheers |
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Diesel for blood
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: west australia
Posts: 5,711
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I can see the possibility of the 70 and 75 being different to a mwb but a 73 and a 74 being different?? __________________ HZJ75 cab chassis 95 model ,stocker FJ73+1HZ Diesel NEW GEARBOX 1HZ =same power as 3F with 30% better fuel economy 2in Dobinsons lift.Powerdown adj shocks 33 in BFG A/T HJ61 with slidin windas regrettfully SOLD:(Volvo 740 GL |
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Diesel for blood
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: west australia
Posts: 5,711
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I may have to remove a seat and see. Although I still wont know how to mount the seat. I thought this would be a straight bolt up ![]() __________________ HZJ75 cab chassis 95 model ,stocker FJ73+1HZ Diesel NEW GEARBOX 1HZ =same power as 3F with 30% better fuel economy 2in Dobinsons lift.Powerdown adj shocks 33 in BFG A/T HJ61 with slidin windas regrettfully SOLD:(Volvo 740 GL |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Victoria BC
Posts: 231
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This was the setup on my old BJ70.
__________________ 1982 BJ60, 3B, 245,000km, Deblinged Freeborn red. Last edited by Diesel Weasel; 07-14-06 at 11:30 PM. |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 48
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Roscoe,
I have suspension seat in my FJ73. They work absoloutely fine, however they are simply too lightweight for me (I'm 120kg, and the seats are only rated to 100kg).They have a little play in them (they are not absoloutely tight), but they are still a comfy option for anyone at the right weight. They would look to be in the same condition as those in your photos. I'll take some pics for you soon, and if they are a direct swap, I'd be happy to swap mine, for your static ones if this takes your fancy. PM me if you're interested. |
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Diesel for blood
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: west australia
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I may be able to swap parts but I dont know where to find them They were not a common option in oz and its unlikely anyone would want to break up a matching set. __________________ HZJ75 cab chassis 95 model ,stocker FJ73+1HZ Diesel NEW GEARBOX 1HZ =same power as 3F with 30% better fuel economy 2in Dobinsons lift.Powerdown adj shocks 33 in BFG A/T HJ61 with slidin windas regrettfully SOLD:(Volvo 740 GL Last edited by roscoFJ73; 07-15-06 at 05:38 PM. |
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Diesel for blood
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: west australia
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__________________ HZJ75 cab chassis 95 model ,stocker FJ73+1HZ Diesel NEW GEARBOX 1HZ =same power as 3F with 30% better fuel economy 2in Dobinsons lift.Powerdown adj shocks 33 in BFG A/T HJ61 with slidin windas regrettfully SOLD:(Volvo 740 GL |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Greendale B.C Canada
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I sold a set of suspension bases to a guy that made the mods to the rib and mounted em in his 74. So it can be done. __________________ 93 1HD-T swapped FZJ80 VW A4 Jetta TDI My other diesel is a Locomotive www.gscruiserparts.com |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 8
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I bought a midi that was a bj73 with the 3 seat setup. The tub was rusty so I bought a tub that was a bj74 tub with suspension bucket seat setup. I had to swap the seats I had for the suspension bucket seats. there was no way that they were going to interchange without some serious mod work to the floor. It wasnt worth the effort.
Cheers. Dave. |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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please note, i never said it couldn't be done just that the floor was different, i never bothered to find out what would make them work...
i think Bruce has the proper front cross sitting on his shop floor... |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Greendale B.C Canada
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__________________ 93 1HD-T swapped FZJ80 VW A4 Jetta TDI My other diesel is a Locomotive www.gscruiserparts.com |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2006
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I have an RJ70 Bundera with standard for/aft sliding seats. I acquired another vehicle with suspension seats in it with the intention of cutting the floor out and welding it into the RJ70. On inspecting the body of the RJ70 I noted the the sub floor nuts and reinforcing (under body) was the same for each vehicle. all that needs to be done to allow the suspension seat bases to be mounted is to grind off the mounts for the regular sliding mounts and drill one hole in the floor wehere the underbody nut is located. and then you have factory suspension seat bases. I was very surprised when I found it myself, so get under your truck and have a look for yourself.
I have since confirmed this a on a mates FJ73 so have a look and we have just saved everyone a heap of work cheers Bundy_Harry |
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Diesel for blood
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: west australia
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Maybe you could post some pics of the BundY in readers rides __________________ HZJ75 cab chassis 95 model ,stocker FJ73+1HZ Diesel NEW GEARBOX 1HZ =same power as 3F with 30% better fuel economy 2in Dobinsons lift.Powerdown adj shocks 33 in BFG A/T HJ61 with slidin windas regrettfully SOLD:(Volvo 740 GL |
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thanks for sharing, good factual info... |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2006
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cheers bundy_harry |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 829
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...and the other more critical detail is the molded carpet for the non suspension "towers" must be resected (that is cut down, or removed).
the bottom frames of the seats are different as well, so more editing must be done to a seat base to make it fit suspension frame!!!! floors are the same and I have some bases for my non suspesion seats when I get around to it. |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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The BJ74 non suspension tub is not so lucky. It does have the outboard captive nut on the bottom that is used for either seat base, however the inside mounted captive nut is not there. The re-enforcing is, and the second layer has a hole where you would drill, however you would have to weld a nut on the bottom, or simply use a not captive nut for the bottom. Small detail, however salient for clarities sake. I plan on having the entire floor of my BJ74 line-x'd, so will have to investigate and see about doing this mod before it goes in. I would want to ensure the 3" rearward movement of my seats is maintained too. hth's gb |
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it's fishing time!
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the suspension system works fine, but the actual 74's seats are for me a little uncomfortable.
so can anyone recommend a replacement bucket seat either used or new? thanks! |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Hi,
I have taken a few photos and posted them up here; dpunter/Seats - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting Not real good as it was dark, cold and wet outside. Melbourne - say no more. Hope it helps. Let me know if you need more info. Regards, David __________________ 1986 FJ73 - 350,000+ klm - still going strong http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...3/IMG_2579.jpg |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,029
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I do not know if this will help...but i sold the susp. seats out of my BJ 70 and the floorpans are in great shape...
![]() would be a little work to re install them.. Bes Regards Gord __________________ Gone Fishing ![]() ![]()
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 72
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I've got suspension seats in my FJ73, fat bastard must have owned it for 300,000km before me, the floor was cracked around both rear bolt holes!
__________________ Aussie FJ73 middy turning 33'' claws |
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Diesel for blood
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: west australia
Posts: 5,711
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A lot of them do that inc mine, I think it was from a combo of loose bolts and worn out suspension.
__________________ HZJ75 cab chassis 95 model ,stocker FJ73+1HZ Diesel NEW GEARBOX 1HZ =same power as 3F with 30% better fuel economy 2in Dobinsons lift.Powerdown adj shocks 33 in BFG A/T HJ61 with slidin windas regrettfully SOLD:(Volvo 740 GL |
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