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12-27-08, 01:17 PM
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REAL TIME: Engine Install Problem?
I am reinstalling my 2F on the 87 FJ60 and I can't get it to stab the tranny in. I pulled the motor with leaving the tranny in the truck and now I can't get it fully lined up. I am using 4 tranny to transfer bolts with the heads cut off as a guide and still can't get it. Tried 3 times. Should I just pull the tranny now and install it out of the truck ( a PITA)? Or is some other trick?
Jeremy
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12-27-08, 01:31 PM
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Forum Lifer
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I've never done what you are doing, but I have pulled my transmission several times. When you separate the transmission/transfer from the engine they tend to tilt a bit. You may have to put a jack under the front or rear of the transmission/transfer case to get it back to the correct angle for the install. Simillary, you may need to tilt the engine. The transmission input shaft needs to be along the same angle that the crank is.
Did you use a clutch alignment tool to line up the friction disc in the clutch? Did you remember to remove the tool? Is the clutch still alligned.
Finally, you may need to rotate the input shaft to get the splines to line up with those on the friction disc.
When it's close enough, if you can get one of the bots through, you can start to tighten that (but don't force it!) to pull the two together.
Good luck.
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12-27-08, 03:02 PM
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Forum Lifer
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how far apart are the trans and bellhousing?
did you try the pilot bearing on the trans shaft before installing?
same as above, maybe a jack to help try and line them up.
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12-27-08, 03:47 PM
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As above, did you replace the Pilot Bearing ? If yes, take a little emery cloth and go over the tip of the input shaft taking it down a little. New pilot bearing can cause the hang up. Also, the clutch fork can push the T/O bearing in the way if not tied back.
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12-28-08, 12:04 AM
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Thanks fo the help but we decided to put it off another week. I tried all of the above, and I believe we will just remove the tranny assembly and install them out the truck. I think the twisting of the tranny was causing most of the hang ups. I thought that the 4 bolts would line everything up, but it was just to massive and still threw everything off.
Thanks
Jeremy
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71' FJ40 W/ SBC V8, Marks Adapter, 4 speed Tranny & Transfer
SOA, 38" TSL's, 4W discs
WWW.Paypalsucks.com
"When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you will get the vote of Paul. If there are more Pauls than Peters, you win the election."
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12-28-08, 06:45 PM
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normally its going to take at least two people... and you are going to have to come down at an angle. One person man-handles the trans and the other the engine. Of course you have to get the clutch splined correctly. I would say in my experience with my engine swap its a little bit of pain in the @$$, especially with the tight clearances, I'm sure the I-6 is fun too. It took two of us to do my truck when we swapped out V-8 longblocks.
Its eaiser to mate all together outside the truck but it makes for a long assemly going back in...which is in itself an issue.
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12-29-08, 01:29 PM
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Been there dude, more than once. And I don't have any "friends" dumb enough to offer help. It can be done solo, it's not that hard. If you used an alignment tool on the clutch and some grease on the trany's input shaft and bearing retainer and some in the pilot, it shouldn't be too difficult. You have to get down under the rig and make sure that the angle of the trans and the motor are as close to the same as possible. Use a jack on the tranny to manipulate the angle. Once you get close you can start to thread in the four bolts that hold the trans to the bellhousing. Don't go nuts, or you can damage stuff, but this will keep you from losing ground and will eventually get you lined up.
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