Real Time, well sort of.....

boerboel313 · 05-15-08, 06:07 PM

I dropped my 84 Fj60 off at the garage to have a valve adjustment and to have the Carb rebuilt since I've completed a 95% desmog.

I picked it up today, popped the hood to check out the Carb. What I found to me is a brand new Carb. I called the Mech and he insures me that it has been removed and thouroughly cleaned.

Well let me tell you what. It looks brand new. How can I tell if my orig carb was taken out and some imposter put in?

Under the itemized bill, it states Carb $358.00. That sounds to me that the old was pulled and a new put in.

What do you all think? I will take some pics and post them later today.

Thanks so much.

jb welda · 05-15-08, 06:25 PM

personally i dont see any percentage in replacing the carb and then saying it was merely rebuilt. maybe the other way around makes sense. if it did turn out to be a brand new i would be happy. a dunk in the hot tank can do wonders for the look of a carb.

one love
jah bill

Marc311 · 05-15-08, 06:26 PM

If it is a new carb - is this a bad thing?

A new OEM carb runs about $600+. My guess is that for $385 you either had yours rebuilt or they installed a rebuilt carb that was rebuilt by a third party supplier. If it was rebuilt and had some parts bead blasted or thouroughly cleaned, it would be tough to tell if it was new or not if it is installed.

So if it is new, good for you! If it is rebuilt, the price is pretty much what you would expect. OPr am I missing something?

boerboel313 · 05-15-08, 06:30 PM

If you look closely to the pic of the fuel window, what does that say there? Is that an after market carb or my original? I just wanted to keep the original carb with my truck. Thanks for all your replies.

Spike Strip · 05-15-08, 06:35 PM

Is the truck in CA? How can you do a desmog? Is it off-road only?

Carb looks rebuilt. Only registered shops in CA, now, can get the "real" caustic stuff to clean parts -- Also, they may have used a heated washer... Makes stuff look new. Wish I had one.

But they probably just swapped out for a rebuilt unit. Ask for the core back and pay for it.

Marc311 · 05-15-08, 06:50 PM

That's an OEM carb - it says "Aisin."

I can't tell for sure, but I would venture a guess it is rebuilt. There appear to be toolmarks visible, but I am by no means 100% certain.

So now you know you still have an OEM carb, albeit maybe not your original carb. So the only question is "how does it run." Sure looks pretty though!

lovetoski · 05-15-08, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc311

So the only question is "how does it run." Sure looks pretty though!

Yep - that's the only thing that matters - it's original Mr T, so how's it run? If it runs good, be happy.

New OEM carbs run 800+. Rebuilds typically run 300+. Then there's installation and misc other stuff.

RredFJ40 · 05-16-08, 01:34 AM

With your two trucks you oughta know what "Aisan" is when you see it.

FJ40Jim · 05-16-08, 06:02 AM

Vac hoses are hooked up incorrectly.

To tell if it is the original carb, check the date code.

05-15-08, 06:07 PM	#1
boerboel313 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Clemente, CA TLCA# 14563 Posts: 398	Real Time, well sort of..... I dropped my 84 Fj60 off at the garage to have a valve adjustment and to have the Carb rebuilt since I've completed a 95% desmog. I picked it up today, popped the hood to check out the Carb. What I found to me is a brand new Carb. I called the Mech and he insures me that it has been removed and thouroughly cleaned. Well let me tell you what. It looks brand new. How can I tell if my orig carb was taken out and some imposter put in? Under the itemized bill, it states Carb $358.00. That sounds to me that the old was pulled and a new put in. What do you all think? I will take some pics and post them later today. Thanks so much. Attached Images __________________ 84' tan, fj60, "TOMBI" CURRENLY: Somewhere in Afghanistan, NORMALY: San Clemente, CA Chris and Andrea Manella TLCA# 14563 2.5 Heavy OME with Rear Spacer to correct Cruiser Lean, H55, New Transfer Case, Headers, 4" Pipe and Magnaflow, 90% Desmoged, SOR Duck Seat covers, Dark Tint, Tuffy Box, SOR Cargo, Front and Rear Mats, 62 Style side Mirrors, K&N, 32x11.5x15 BFG A/T. Hella Horns and 550 Hella Fog lights. 1977 White fj40, "WIFES" 95% restored, stock, 31x10.5x15 BFG A/T Last edited by boerboel313; 05-15-08 at 06:19 PM.

05-15-08, 06:26 PM	#3
Marc311 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 558	If it is a new carb - is this a bad thing? A new OEM carb runs about $600+. My guess is that for $385 you either had yours rebuilt or they installed a rebuilt carb that was rebuilt by a third party supplier. If it was rebuilt and had some parts bead blasted or thouroughly cleaned, it would be tough to tell if it was new or not if it is installed. So if it is new, good for you! If it is rebuilt, the price is pretty much what you would expect. OPr am I missing something? __________________ 87 FJ60 31 x10.5 Silent Armors, LEDed, H4ed, Damplified, 4Runner calipered, and re-knuckled

05-15-08, 06:30 PM	#4
boerboel313 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Clemente, CA TLCA# 14563 Posts: 398	If you look closely to the pic of the fuel window, what does that say there? Is that an after market carb or my original? I just wanted to keep the original carb with my truck. Thanks for all your replies. __________________ 84' tan, fj60, "TOMBI" CURRENLY: Somewhere in Afghanistan, NORMALY: San Clemente, CA Chris and Andrea Manella TLCA# 14563 2.5 Heavy OME with Rear Spacer to correct Cruiser Lean, H55, New Transfer Case, Headers, 4" Pipe and Magnaflow, 90% Desmoged, SOR Duck Seat covers, Dark Tint, Tuffy Box, SOR Cargo, Front and Rear Mats, 62 Style side Mirrors, K&N, 32x11.5x15 BFG A/T. Hella Horns and 550 Hella Fog lights. 1977 White fj40, "WIFES" 95% restored, stock, 31x10.5x15 BFG A/T

05-15-08, 06:35 PM	#5
Spike Strip Just try and git it. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Fernando Valley, CA TLCA# 17876 Posts: 686	Is the truck in CA? How can you do a desmog? Is it off-road only? Carb looks rebuilt. Only registered shops in CA, now, can get the "real" caustic stuff to clean parts -- Also, they may have used a heated washer... Makes stuff look new. Wish I had one. But they probably just swapped out for a rebuilt unit. Ask for the core back and pay for it. __________________ BEST WWII STORY EVER WRITTEN

05-15-08, 06:50 PM	#6
Marc311 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 558	That's an OEM carb - it says "Aisin." I can't tell for sure, but I would venture a guess it is rebuilt. There appear to be toolmarks visible, but I am by no means 100% certain. So now you know you still have an OEM carb, albeit maybe not your original carb. So the only question is "how does it run." Sure looks pretty though! __________________ 87 FJ60 31 x10.5 Silent Armors, LEDed, H4ed, Damplified, 4Runner calipered, and re-knuckled

05-15-08, 06:25 PM	#2
jb welda IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 420	personally i dont see any percentage in replacing the carb and then saying it was merely rebuilt. maybe the other way around makes sense. if it did turn out to be a brand new i would be happy. a dunk in the hot tank can do wonders for the look of a carb. one love jah bill

05-16-08, 01:34 AM	#8
RredFJ40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Klamath Basin TLCA# 14992 Posts: 1,008	With your two trucks you oughta know what "Aisan" is when you see it. __________________ Joel ----- "Birds have nests, foxes have dens but the hope of the whole world lay on the shoulders of a homeless man." - R. Mullins 82 FJ60 - normal stuff 68 FJ40 - gone 88 FJ62 - gone

05-16-08, 06:02 AM	#9
FJ40Jim Cruiser Curmudgeon Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lancaster, Ohio, USA TLCA# 1914 Posts: 3,026	Vac hoses are hooked up incorrectly. To tell if it is the original carb, check the date code. __________________ Thanks, Jim C. TLC Performance Underhood Janitor, cleaning up other people's since 1988.

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