propane daily driver

krookedpandas · 05-11-08, 01:16 PM

Lately my father and I have been considering converting my cruiser to propane. After reading LT's post back from '06 it is starting to seem more like a real possibility. However would propane be a good alternative to gasoline as a daily driver or would I really see any benefits. This sounds like a fun and interesting project so if the cons are low chances are we will be taking it on any ways.

-Matt

cruiser88 · 05-11-08, 03:43 PM

From what I understand you loose very little to no horsepower with running propane,you might loose up to 1 mile per gallon and the motors seem to run cooler.

What is the current price of propane now?

I am no expert by far but it is a great alternative i feel.

Droopynut · 05-11-08, 03:56 PM

That sounds like a great idea...my fuel lines are shot and gas is too much. I'd like to learn more about propane conversion...keep us posted.

GAS-A-LOT! · 05-11-08, 03:56 PM

3.99/gal. in my neck of the woods...

cruiser88 · 05-11-08, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GAS-A-LOT!

3.99/gal. in my neck of the woods...

dam....then cost wise it would be no help.

krookedpandas · 05-11-08, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cruiser88

From what I understand you loose very little to no horsepower with running propane,you might loose up to 1 mile per gallon and the motors seem to run cooler.

What is the current price of propane now?

I am no expert by far but it is a great alternative i feel.

I haven't been able to get a hold of anyone today to find out current prices or the rate of inflation on propane. I'll be calling tomorrow for sure though.

krookedpandas · 05-11-08, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GAS-A-LOT!

3.99/gal. in my neck of the woods...

I read that it is cheaper in the gulf coast region, which is where I am at.

Droopynut · 05-11-08, 04:35 PM

could you drop us a link to the post you read regarding propane conversion?

Dan

fj40peru · 05-11-08, 05:55 PM

I use here in Peru propane in my FJ40 and goes excelent... even 4818 Meters over the sea (I think that's 15847-Ft)

I don't know if in the USA you use the same system...

cruiser88 · 05-11-08, 05:58 PM

That looks crazy simple ....what kind of economy(mpg's) do you get?

krookedpandas · 05-11-08, 06:57 PM

Here is the post that I read
http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series...ropane-2f.html

fj40peru · 05-11-08, 07:15 PM

it's not very significant... 20% more less... because the landcruiser uses very cheap gasoline... like 3 dollars gallon Vs the expensive gasoline that is 6 dollars gallon...

krookedpandas · 05-11-08, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fj40peru

it's not very significant... 20% more less... because the landcruiser uses very cheap gasoline... like 3 dollars gallon Vs the expensive gasoline that is 6 dollars gallon...

Well you guys in peru must have some great cruisers because mine runs like

with anything lower than 91 octane.

Mace · 05-11-08, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by krookedpandas

Well you guys in peru must have some great cruisers because mine runs like

with anything lower than 91 octane.

You need to adjust your timing.. A truck with as low a compression ratio as a LC should never need 91..
Unless the motor has been tweaked that is.

Propane is a neat fuel. But a serious pita if you cannot find a easy place to refuel..

I am running it on m 40. But I would never use it as a daily..

fj40peru · 05-11-08, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by krookedpandas

Well you guys in peru must have some great cruisers because mine runs like

with anything lower than 91 octane.

here we use 84 octanes in our LC

and propane is like saying 105 octane... there's only one problem, the carburetor air intake is reduced by the propane element (my English is kind of poor )

krookedpandas · 05-11-08, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mace

You need to adjust your timing.. A truck with as low a compression ratio as a LC should never need 91..
Unless the motor has been tweaked that is.

Propane is a neat fuel. But a serious pita if you cannot find a easy place to refuel..

I am running it on m 40. But I would never use it as a daily..

You are probably right, though I have been told that I have an amazing feeling 2f by other cruiser folk with I had 87 octane in it. Maybe I'm just touchy

There is a propane station right next to my house and I will probably have plenty of tank to get me where ever I'm going and be able to find somewhere to refill.

Mace · 05-11-08, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by krookedpandas

I will probably have plenty of tank to get me where ever I'm going and be able to find somewhere to refill.

That probably is a bitch when it turns into an issue

krookedpandas · 05-11-08, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mace

That probably is a bitch when it turns into an issue

no!

serenity · 05-12-08, 02:44 AM

plenty of room for tanks in the rear of a 60 if you have a tyre carrier, i have my LPG tanks in the original spare tyre position.
link to a post in my ROTW
IH8MUD.com Forum - View Single Post - ROTW - Serenity
edit: the tanks have negligible effect on my departure angle.

GLTHFJ60 · 05-12-08, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by krookedpandas

You are probably right, though I have been told that I have an amazing feeling 2f by other cruiser folk with I had 87 octane in it. Maybe I'm just touchy

My 87 runs damn good with the dirty water I put in it ( 87 octane ).

Wouldn't it be possible to do a dual fuel setup so that if you run out of one fuel one could just flip a switch and run the other? I wonder how much propane costs per gallon up here in the northeast. Where do you buy the conversion kit?

Mace · 05-12-08, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GLTHFJ60

My 87 runs damn good with the dirty water I put in it ( 87 octane ).

Wouldn't it be possible to do a dual fuel setup so that if you run out of one fuel one could just flip a switch and run the other? I wonder how much propane costs per gallon up here in the northeast. Where do you buy the conversion kit?

It is very easy to run a dual fuel setup. Look at modern taxis, those are typically fuel injected and commonly run off of propane/natgas along with gasoline.

krookedpandas · 05-12-08, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mace

It is very easy to run a dual fuel setup. Look at modern taxis, those are typically fuel injected and commonly run off of propane/natgas along with gasoline.

Yeah dual fuel is probably going to be the way to go. Though I hear they are a bit more pricey.

Mace · 05-12-08, 09:33 AM

Price is almost identical. Both dual fuel and pure propane will generally require a set of butterflies (carb or FI) from your current rig.

krookedpandas · 05-12-08, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mace

Price is almost identical. Both dual fuel and pure propane will generally require a set of butterflies (carb or FI) from your current rig.

What parts are different on the dual system? Do you know where I can find one? LT linked me to where he purchased his stuff but i didn't see any dual system stuff on there.

05-11-08, 01:16 PM	#1
krookedpandas IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Austin, Tx TLCA# 18509 Posts: 310	propane daily driver Lately my father and I have been considering converting my cruiser to propane. After reading LT's post back from '06 it is starting to seem more like a real possibility. However would propane be a good alternative to gasoline as a daily driver or would I really see any benefits. This sounds like a fun and interesting project so if the cons are low chances are we will be taking it on any ways. -Matt __________________ -Matt 1987 60 series-DD plus family project LSLC AUSTIN

05-11-08, 03:43 PM	#2
cruiser88 They call me crazy88 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: over here TLCA# 17319 Posts: 6,629	From what I understand you loose very little to no horsepower with running propane,you might loose up to 1 mile per gallon and the motors seem to run cooler. What is the current price of propane now? I am no expert by far but it is a great alternative i feel. __________________ Girls you need to join this club http://www.playhardgetdirty.com/index.html "how 'bout we sing 'kyles mom is a bitch' in E minor?"by OregonCruzer http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/f...13957_15_0.jpg http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/f...113957_1_2.jpg

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Droopynut IH8MUD Junior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Westchester County, NY Posts: 139	That sounds like a great idea...my fuel lines are shot and gas is too much. I'd like to learn more about propane conversion...keep us posted. __________________ 1985 FJ60: needs a few things. 1989 FJ62: eye candy! 1993 Toyota Pickup: zero rust! 1985 Celica GT-S convertible: daily driver

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Droopynut IH8MUD Junior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Westchester County, NY Posts: 139	could you drop us a link to the post you read regarding propane conversion? Dan __________________ 1985 FJ60: needs a few things. 1989 FJ62: eye candy! 1993 Toyota Pickup: zero rust! 1985 Celica GT-S convertible: daily driver

05-11-08, 05:55 PM	#9
fj40peru IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 82	I use here in Peru propane in my FJ40 and goes excelent... even 4818 Meters over the sea (I think that's 15847-Ft) I don't know if in the USA you use the same system... __________________ === FJ40 84 === ===FJ60 81=== www.LandCruiserPERU.com

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cruiser88 They call me crazy88 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: over here TLCA# 17319 Posts: 6,629	That looks crazy simple ....what kind of economy(mpg's) do you get? __________________ Girls you need to join this club http://www.playhardgetdirty.com/index.html "how 'bout we sing 'kyles mom is a bitch' in E minor?"by OregonCruzer http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/f...13957_15_0.jpg http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/f...113957_1_2.jpg

05-11-08, 06:57 PM	#11
krookedpandas IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Austin, Tx TLCA# 18509 Posts: 310	Here is the post that I read http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series...ropane-2f.html __________________ -Matt 1987 60 series-DD plus family project LSLC AUSTIN

05-11-08, 07:15 PM	#12
fj40peru IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 82	it's not very significant... 20% more less... because the landcruiser uses very cheap gasoline... like 3 dollars gallon Vs the expensive gasoline that is 6 dollars gallon... __________________ === FJ40 84 === ===FJ60 81=== www.LandCruiserPERU.com

05-12-08, 02:44 AM	#19
serenity IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: queensland Posts: 230	plenty of room for tanks in the rear of a 60 if you have a tyre carrier, i have my LPG tanks in the original spare tyre position. link to a post in my ROTW IH8MUD.com Forum - View Single Post - ROTW - Serenity edit: the tanks have negligible effect on my departure angle. __________________ 1984 FJ60 "after the next nuclear war all that will be left are roaches and toyotas"

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