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Old 05-21-08, 04:53 PM   #91
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7. To all the naysayers out there. Good. Scepticism is healthy. build your own or buy one doesn't make a difference, just get one on your polluting ride and see the results yourself.
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I think most of us are just waiting for you get your rig back up to spec in regards to maintenance and see the full results. Its hard to swallow all the claimed benefits when your still posting MPG ratings equal to what others are getting with a properly tuned and maintained stock truck.

Nothing personal just my .02

Personally I believe it works. And seeing your set up in person helped me understand the theory. But as of yet, I have not had the time to research it for myself. My biggest concern would be any long term side effects. This is the only thing stopping me from ordering a duplicate system for my 80.


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Old 05-21-08, 05:29 PM   #92
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"I think most of us are just waiting for you get your rig back up to spec in regards to maintenance and see the full results. Its hard to swallow all the claimed benefits when your still posting MPG ratings equal to what others are getting with a properly tuned and maintained stock truck."

yeah corbet, I've been a bit slack lately, though I've gotten a few things done. replaced the manifold gasket, spark plugs, timing so far. you know how it is living in condorado about working on your ride not to mention that winter just won't go away this year. Expecting snow by the weekend, again!

We will have a shop with a bay down valley soon, so I'll be able to dial the cruiser in and do a proper desmog and carb rebuild. I must say that the old fj60 is running pretty damn good minus the egr exhaust leak. I've still got to rebuild the knuckles. It's an ongoing project as always.

With $4.05 gal gas here, I've been a bit hesitant about racking up the miles unneccessarily.

Corbet, I'll cruise by the dealership next time i'm in minturn.
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Old 05-24-08, 05:59 PM   #93
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checkout zerofossilfuel on youtube

anyone remotely interested in HHO or an nay sayer should should check out youtube and search for zerofossilfuel...this guy has 94 pretty scientific videos of his development and tweaking of his hho cell. Lots of good info if you want to build one ...for examle using 316 grade stainless for the platelettes because the 304 grade tends to give off ferrous oxide thus muddying this water/catalyst solution. Also he gives dimensions of his plates and spacing. And a first hand look at hydrogen production with imput rates of electrical current, watts and amps. Also output of hydrogen per watt. One test he even shows an experimental backflow/explosion with pop off valve to see what will happen in the unfortunate event of backflow. Its very interesting!


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Old 06-23-08, 11:34 AM   #94
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Any recent developments on this? My curiosity is still piqued.


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check the alternative fuel forum under esther's hho thread for pics and more discussion.

We just installed a magdrive double brick on a ford f-250, puts out way more than the single brick that I have. The truck is on the road this week doing some long commutes so I'll have some mpg #s within a few days. We were using Ethos FR in it last week to see results of that and so far has been promising. the ford's average base mpg is 12-13 for mixed city/highway driving loaded/unloaded. with the ethos we're seeing 14+ so far and smoother acceleration. We are aiming for 20 mpg hwy with combo of hho and ethos fr.


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Old 06-23-08, 12:09 PM   #96
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here's the pics of mine in the fj60

This is the previous 11a single brick unit. The system has been changed slightly for more effecient production. It draws up to 8 amps and produces 2-4 liters per minute of hho. I have it on 15a fuses.

The brick cell is mounted below on the inside of fenderwall for cooling. the two pvc condensate traps are now eliminated on the latest model and the resovoir replaces them both for removing any condensation. The booster pump now runs from the brick to the c-trap/resovoir which circulates the flow more efficiently.
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