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Old 04-06-08, 11:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First, I need to give credit to my bro-in-law. If it wasn't for him, I would never have become part of the Land Cruiser community. Turns out he drove a 60 series in Bolivia for a number of years and when he came back to the states he vowed he would own one. After a number of years he found a clean '88 FJ62 and bought it. Honestly, I wasn't impressed. To me it looked like a bigger version of the station wagon the Griswald's drive in National Lampoon's "Vacation". The year was 1995 and I felt there were a lot better options out there for an SUV (I was ignorant, so forgive me). After several months of owning his, he drove by a Toyota dealer one day and spotted a super clean 1990 FJ62 that had just arrived. He told one of the salesman to hold it, he had someone who was going to buy it. Turns out that someone was me. I wasn't interested, but he convinced me to at least go to the dealership and look at it. So here was a 5 year old FJ62, single owner and 18,000 miles! A husband had bought it for his wife (they were both getting up there in age) because he wanted something big and safe for her. She had never driven it in bad weather because she was too scared. It spent most of the time in the garage and came out for the occasional run to the grocery store. An hour later my 1988 Jeep Cherokee (BIGGEST PILE OF CRAP I EVER DROVE) was gone and replaced with the Cruiser.

It went with me to college in UT and little did I know this simple fact would forever change my relationship with my Cruiser. I had never even considered lifting a vehicle let alone take one offroad until I had lived in UT. It did stay completely stock for a year or so. First mod was an ARB front bumper. Yes, it looked a little strange with stock suspension and the stock 28" tires, but I wanted the bumper. After the tires finally wore to the point I was ready to replace them, 31x10.50 BFG All-Terrains were fitted. I was amazed at how far this setup could take me. In college, I was the guy with the truck that doubled as the road trip/ski/camping trip/party wagon. Campfire in the canyon, everybody hopped in with me. Head up to the ski resorts for a day of skiing or boarding, I was the taxi.

It was on one of these ski trips that solidified my position as lover of all things Toyota Land Cruiser. I'm heading up the canyon with 4 others and all their gear in the back of my 62. It had already started to snow and there was a good, thick blanket covering the road. Just as it starts to get pretty steep, there is a lifted Tahoe (no offense to those who drive one) with big tires and a crew of unhappy skiers pulled off to the side. They couldn't get any further up the road and told me to turn around as well, there was no point in going any further. One of my buddies blurted out "keep going", so I continued on to see how far I could make it up the road. I just kept going, and going, and going until I came to a stop at the ski resort parking lot. I felt like a champ, and the guys and girls with me gave praise the rest of the day to my "unstoppable" Land Cruiser.

The second defining moment for me was my first trip to Moab, UT. I have always been a mountain biker. Growing up on the east coast, I would ride all over the trails of No VA and at some of the resorts in WV. Now that I was in UT and biking all over the Wasatch, my brother suggested I head down to Moab. He heard that for some reason, lots of bikers would go down and ride there. "Moab, what's Moab?" The first time I crossed the Colorado River and pulled into Moab, I knew this was a special place. There was just something about the place that made me feel instantly......at home. Anway, I was there to bike, so off to Slickrock Trail I went. Amazing ride, amazing scenery, amazing atmosphere. Then I see a group of trucks going up Lion's Back, Dump Bump, and Baby Lion's Back. I had never seen anything like that before and couldn't believe something could actually drive up those things (I now understand how unimpressive those obstacles are). I decided to give Baby Lion's Back a try, and that is the first time I experienced the "pucker factor" and how annoying the loooooong hood of the 62 is. Now, don't give me a hard time for getting nervous on B.L.B., it was my first time on what I would call an "obstacle" and not merely a dirt road. After that simple 60 second rush of adrenaline, I was hooked to offroading.

Next mod was to throw on the OME suspension sometime in the late '90's. When the 31's finally wore out, I slapped on some 33x10.50 BFG All-Terrains. At this time I also put the full length Garvin Wilderness rack up top, with Hella 4000's up front and IPF 816's wired in as additional reverse/flood lights on the back. The spare tire went on the roof and the snorkel was plumbed up and bolted to the pillar. I admit that those last two were for looks. The headlights and harness were replaced with IPF H4 bulbs and IPF housings and remain one of my favorite mods. The stock headlights SUCKED! The stock horn was also an embarrassment and was replaced with a Hella horn kit.

And this is how my Cruiser remained for many years and for most of its offroad excursions. I found that with the lift and 33's, I could do the majority of trails I wanted. The 60 series is just so incredibly capable in nearly stock form! Moab became an almost every other weekend trip, and even during my busy semesters I made sure to make it down at least once a month for some offroading, biking and camping. Moab will always be a place for me that no matter how busy or challenging or crappy my life can get........I can cruise into town and life is all good. I just wish I could make it there as much as I did while in college.

This is not the end of my Cruiser saga, but will be continued tomorrow. Sorry I can't get the entire thread done at once! Pics will go up as soon as my silver star renewal goes through. I know, this thread is worthless without pics!!!!

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Here are my and my bro-in-law's Cruisers completely stock.
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Old 04-07-08, 09:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Unfortunately, this is the only pic I can dig up of my Cruiser with the OME lift and 33's. Needless to say, you can't get a good view of the goods. This is coming down one of the many fins on the trail Fins 'N Things in Moab.

If I can find any more I will just add them to this thread.
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I wheeled many years SUA with 33's and the day finally came that I pulled the plug and went SOA. Here's one pic testing for shock length and a poser driveway shot. Forgive me for the white letters out. I swear it wasn't by choice.

A little info about the SOA. I went with stock height replacement springs to keep the COG low as possible, plus I was still running 33's and didn't want to look ridiculous. Perches were 4+ units, shocks were Heckethorn all around, and steering is Man-a-Fre. Had to replace the brake lines with lengthened SS ones. Front axle has been cut and turned, and the driveshafts are Tom Woods CV's. Shackles are 4+ GSK's.
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Finally ditched the 33's for some 35x12.50 X Terrains.


Started hitting up the trails around San Diego. This one is from Coyote Canyon.


My stock center console finally gave up so I replaced it with a Tuffy and added a Cobra CB.



Made my way east to check out Bronco Peak and Sidewinder.



View of Lake Morena in the distance.



Having no portable compressor, I decided against airing down on this trip. It made for a little rough of a ride.









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Sweet rig, some gorgeous country too. Shows all the goodies arn't just for looks.

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Awesome dude! Have you decided on a direction to take it?

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Purdy truck. Nice pics and ROTW!
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My father bought a set of PIAA's for his SUV (combo fog and driving light) but never got around to putting them on, so I made him a deal and put them on the Cruiser. Note that these are the small rectangular lights below the stock lights, not the Hella 4000's on the ARB light tabs.

This was the best spot I could come up with to mount them.



My ghetto "beam test". This shot is low beams only.



This is low beams with driving lights on.



This is low beams with the fogs on.
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Thanks for the compliments guys. I have more of my build to go through, I just need to organize it all. I guess you can say I'm a procrastinator, just like in college.

Dylan, I have decided on a direction to go and that will unfold over the next couple months. A lot of stuff has been ordered. Maybe I can do a ROTW part 2 come this July. A lot should be added/changed by then.
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One of my favorite areas in So Cal is Big Bear. These pics are from Holcomb Creek and Dishpan Springs.


Poser flex shot at a v-notch just after crossing the creek. The 7 month pregnant wife just wanted the entire trip to be done.



Running backwards on Holcomb Creek, this is one of the first rock gardens.



One of the few climbs on this trail.



I swear I'm not stacking.....we're removing rocks to make it harder. Ok, I'm unlocked front and rear, so gimme a break.



Trail's end.



My first and only damage ever sustained on a trail. Time for some sliders.



Exciting spot on Dishpan Springs.



I'm glad I didn't have the roof rack on loaded up with gear.



View from the front at the same spot.



Short "waterfall" that I almost did a nose stand while coming off of it. It's steeper and taller than it looks. Plus, taking the wrong line doesn't help.



Another poser flex shot to try and keep up with John Shotts.

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That is a beautiful truck, in beautiful country! I'm in OC and haven't gotten to wheel in Big Bear yet. The SOA looks awesome, its gonna be some years before I do that to mine, if ever!

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awesome job on the 60 mate ,also is that a 37"spare under the back end

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awesome job on the 60 mate ,also is that a 37"spare under the back end
Thanks! As for the spare, it is a 35 and it barely fits. The shackles won't allow anything larger to tuck up under there.
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That is a great looking and well used rig. I grew up in San Diego and used to fish Lake Moreno all the time. I am really surprised that there is still water left in it.

I really miss the dry wheeling around San Diego county. Dry, dusty and add rocks, sage brush and Manzeneta and wheel!

too cool brings back a lot of great memories!

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Dang. Makes me want to get up and do something with mine.
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Outstanding! Gives me something to think about!

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Guys, I really appreciate the positive comments. When you have a spouse and in-laws that see this hobby as a waste of time and money, you rarely receive any compliments.

Here are some pics of her all cleaned up. I really have enjoyed wheeling with it SOA, but I quickly found out (and you can probably tell by the pictures) that flat springs don't last very long on top of the axle. It only took 4 or 5 hard wheeling trips to cause the fronts to sag. These were not my stock packs either. They were brand new factory height replacements. I'm also running lengthened bump stops to limit the inversion the springs experience.

Front end is starting to sag.



The roof rack was permanently removed. As you can see from this view, I BARELY fit in the garage as is.



I also took this time to throw on the 37's and see how clearance was with them. I had zero rubbing in the back, even at full stuff, but because the fronts were already sagging, they would rub in the front with the wheels turned in either direction at full stuff.

To show the difference in size between 35's and 37's. I'll let you guys decide which is which.



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I really miss the dry wheeling around San Diego county. Dry, dusty and add rocks, sage brush and Manzeneta and wheel!

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Yep, that description pretty much nails it on the head!
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Things were running smooth for a while and I was content to live with the issues I felt were keeping this from being a "complete" rig. I love the SOA but not the Heckethorn shocks. Front springs were lackluster and I didn't like being stink-bug again. What was really killing me was the 4.11 gears coupled to the 37's and auto tranny. I had the Cruiser loaded to the hilt and was making a run for Moab one early summer day. Anybody that has driven 15 north out of So Cal knows about the climb up to the high desert. Well, with my truck now at 130,000 miles, the auto decided it didn't like turning 37's and lots of weight, so it toasted the fluid. It didn't crap out on me, but I knew that it was now time to make some changes.

First thing was to add a giant tranny cooler with a fan. I wasn't planning on running a winch, so I mounted the cooler up front to get lots of fresh air. Then I had TLC rebuild the tranny with a modded valve body and some other tricks. At this time we also replaced the front springs with OME heavies. Heckethorns were yanked and OME Nitrochargers went in. I would have preferred Bilstein 7100's, but I can live with the OME's. So yeah, I'm taller, but the ride is so nice and I really like the stance. I'll have to get those pictures up tomorrow.

Also bought some Precision Gear 4.88's, and they are impatiently waiting to mate with ARB air lockers within the next 3 weeks.

New update! Bought a rear bumper today. Finally I can get rid of the factory chrome unit!!! I can't wait to throw the spare on the new bumper and start looking for long range fuel tanks!

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the 37's are perfect. when you get the 4.88's and arb's the truck will be totally transformed.

envy has set in...

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Looks excellent. So you have OME heavies in the front with stock springs in the back? Does the rear sag a lot when you are all loaded up? It'll be great to see pics.

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Surprisingly, the back doesn't sag that bad when I'm loaded up. Things will change, however, once the new rear bumper goes on, the fridge/freezer is in the back, and the long range tank is bolted up. I thought about getting a set of Deavers or Alcans made for the back, and even looked into copying Dylan's Chev spring swap, but in the end I'm going to follow Dieselcruiserhead's modded stock pack solution. I would prefer Dylan's setup, but I want to focus time, attention and money on other aspects of the build. Throwing in a combination of long AAL's is the cheap and easy way for me to go. I plan on tackling this next week as I'm not into the baja look I currently have with OME in front and stock packs in back. When Ford Rangers that are Baja'd out give you the thumbs up, you know something is wrong with your truck!
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That is a beautiful truck, in beautiful country! I'm in OC and haven't gotten to wheel in Big Bear yet. The SOA looks awesome, its gonna be some years before I do that to mine, if ever!
Whenever you want to hit up Big Bear, let me know. I'm always down for a trip up there.
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Guys, I really appreciate the positive comments. When you have a spouse and in-laws that see this hobby as a waste of time and money, you rarely receive any compliments.
Some people just can't seem to be excited for other's hobbies unless it's their own. That's too bad because they're missing out on seeing some great country and going places that the freeways can't take them. And when there is some violent weather attack where lesser vehicles can't go through guess who will make it through, you will. I think the ability to traverse difficult terrain and the skills you are polishing by going wheeling far outweights building some something just for speed. The practice of overcoming obstacles on the trail could turn into knowing how to navigate through a natural disaster where you've got to climb over cars and wheel over sofas. Good for you to enjoy your hobby and keep up the great work. Us here on the board will always enjoy seeing new pics and talking about wrenching.

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Some people just can't seem to be excited for other's hobbies unless it's their own. That's too bad because they're missing out on seeing some great country and going places that the freeways can't take them. And when there is some violent weather attack where lesser vehicles can't go through guess who will make it through, you will. I think the ability to traverse difficult terrain and the skills you are polishing by going wheeling far outweights building some something just for speed. The practice of overcoming obstacles on the trail could turn into knowing how to navigate through a natural disaster where you've got to climb over cars and wheel over sofas. Good for you to enjoy your hobby and keep up the great work. Us here on the board will always enjoy seeing new pics and talking about wrenching.
this is a great statement! i espically like the part i highlited in red and found that hilarious!

i guess im lucky as my fiancee first found my truck to be a waste of money but when i explained i could be building a built camaro instead goin 160+, getting tickets, ect. she kinda acepted it. then once i took her out wheeling a few times she grew to love it and doesnt mind me spending money so long as bills are getting paid. and get this now she even wants a FJ40! or maybe an old 79-85 minitruck to learn in first. no wonder i love her!

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Some people just can't seem to be excited for other's hobbies unless it's their own. That's too bad because they're missing out on seeing some great country and going places that the freeways can't take them. And when there is some violent weather attack where lesser vehicles can't go through guess who will make it through, you will. I think the ability to traverse difficult terrain and the skills you are polishing by going wheeling far outweights building some something just for speed. The practice of overcoming obstacles on the trail could turn into knowing how to navigate through a natural disaster where you've got to climb over cars and wheel over sofas. Good for you to enjoy your hobby and keep up the great work. Us here on the board will always enjoy seeing new pics and talking about wrenching.
Amen! (I have a sofa in the garage I'm going to wheel over right now. Just to keep up the practice.)
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