SOA VS 4" suspension

Fungi0169 · 03-30-08, 08:52 AM

SOA to SUA. I have a SOA, ARBs front and rear, 4.88's and 35's. All is so new the nobbies aren't even worn off. I don't feel there is enough articulation with the SOA because the travel is limited to 1.5". Therefore, I am contemplating going back to an SUA.
Questions are:
What lift would I need to accomidate the 35's? I want to go lower than the 6" of lift the SOA provides.
What brand would best fit?
If I can't go as low as 4" suspension SUA, would anyone want to swap axles and possibly the 35's provided I would get 4.11's with ARB lockers?
Thanks, Guy

Dirtgypsy · 03-30-08, 11:56 AM

where are you located? we might be able to work something out.

btw, looks like most guys on here are running 5" Alcans with 1-2" shackles to run 35's or a MAF Safari with SR and can fit 35's no problem.

clint

Fungi0169 · 03-31-08, 06:55 AM

I am located in Oklahoma City. Thank you, I was looking at the Safari 4" with SR and after a lot of measuring, think it will work. I have a 3" Alcan on my Jeep and they make some incredible springs so I had planned on calling them this week. I can find housings for $350 each. But I don't know exactly how to change out the 3rd member and would need help. Would the angle of the cut and turn work to my advantage for a 4" lift?

CruisinFJ60 · 03-31-08, 07:05 AM

why do u only have 1.5" of travel?

on my truck i currently have 33's but did have 35's before with the same setup i have now and only had minimal rubbing when flexed.

I have to admit being SUA has its disadvantages for sure for the type of stuff i hit or atempt to hit but i do flex pretty well being SUA. If my shackles would quit finding the rocks before the tires i would be much happier.

Cruiserdrew · 03-31-08, 08:51 AM

Just curious why the travel is limited to 1.5 inches? With SOA it's usually much more. Did you perhaps re-use your old and now too short shocks?

Something is very wrong with your set-up if that is all the flex you have, it should be more like 15-18 inches.

dieselcruiserhead · 03-31-08, 10:18 AM

The issue is there is a threshold where SOA is about 6" of lift and makes your rig "big." It is hard to build a 60 series small SOA. For this reason I advise SUA more often than on, 4-5" of good healthy springs and you will clear 35's fine. I like SOA but you have to keep in mind the size of it. This pic is about the smallest you can safely get a SOA on a 60 series. If you are happy with a "big" truck then you will be fine. You can build truck small with 35's...

InsanityIsBorn · 03-31-08, 11:07 AM

If things don't work out between you and Dirt Gypsy I live in Denver and might be able to do a little dealin with you!

Dirtgypsy · 03-31-08, 12:18 PM

sent you a pm Guy. pm me or call if you want to explore this swap further.

clint

zuluzeugma · 03-31-08, 01:48 PM

This sounds very strange.

Dumb question: Are your shocks limiting your travel???

03-30-08, 08:52 AM	#1
Fungi0169 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 6	SOA VS 4" suspension SOA to SUA. I have a SOA, ARBs front and rear, 4.88's and 35's. All is so new the nobbies aren't even worn off. I don't feel there is enough articulation with the SOA because the travel is limited to 1.5". Therefore, I am contemplating going back to an SUA. Questions are: What lift would I need to accomidate the 35's? I want to go lower than the 6" of lift the SOA provides. What brand would best fit? If I can't go as low as 4" suspension SUA, would anyone want to swap axles and possibly the 35's provided I would get 4.11's with ARB lockers? Thanks, Guy __________________ FZJ80 3" OME Lift, 33" ProComp XMT, ARB Front, Slee rear.

03-30-08, 11:56 AM	#2
Dirtgypsy IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Newberg, Oregon TLCA# 17541 Posts: 829	where are you located? we might be able to work something out. btw, looks like most guys on here are running 5" Alcans with 1-2" shackles to run 35's or a MAF Safari with SR and can fit 35's no problem. clint __________________ It's a Jeep thing I didn't understand. So I bought an FJ60 and now I get it. 1987 FJ60, 2F, H55F, 4.11's, Rear ARB locker, ARB bumper, MAF Safari 4" SR, 33 12.50 15 on old school Mags. ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wa...lver-60-a.html

03-31-08, 06:55 AM	#3
Fungi0169 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 6	I am located in Oklahoma City. Thank you, I was looking at the Safari 4" with SR and after a lot of measuring, think it will work. I have a 3" Alcan on my Jeep and they make some incredible springs so I had planned on calling them this week. I can find housings for $350 each. But I don't know exactly how to change out the 3rd member and would need help. Would the angle of the cut and turn work to my advantage for a 4" lift? __________________ FZJ80 3" OME Lift, 33" ProComp XMT, ARB Front, Slee rear.

03-31-08, 08:51 AM	#5
Cruiserdrew KI6MIE Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA TLCA# 11734 Posts: 6,741	Just curious why the travel is limited to 1.5 inches? With SOA it's usually much more. Did you perhaps re-use your old and now too short shocks? Something is very wrong with your set-up if that is all the flex you have, it should be more like 15-18 inches. __________________ Andrew 1971 FJ-40 Rubicon tested 1976 FJ40 RIP 1984 FJ-60 H55f, 4.11, OME, Daily Driver 1989 FJ-62 117k-son's driver for now. 1997 FZJ-80 Factory sub-tank, and other tricks

03-31-08, 10:18 AM	#6
dieselcruiserhead IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Park City & Heber City, Utah TLCA# 9439 Posts: 2,158	The issue is there is a threshold where SOA is about 6" of lift and makes your rig "big." It is hard to build a 60 series small SOA. For this reason I advise SUA more often than on, 4-5" of good healthy springs and you will clear 35's fine. I like SOA but you have to keep in mind the size of it. This pic is about the smallest you can safely get a SOA on a 60 series. If you are happy with a "big" truck then you will be fine. You can build truck small with 35's... Attached Images __________________ - Cummins 4BTswaps.com Forums - Diesel Conversion Website TLCA# 9439 Since 1999, Wasatch Cruisers '89 Toyota Pickup V6, OME, 32's '69 FJ55 Project on locked FZJ80 Frame, Cummins 4BT, NV5600, Dana 300

03-31-08, 11:07 AM	#7
InsanityIsBorn Tha'll do piggy tha'll do Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Gunnison, CO // Highlands Ranch, CO. Posts: 307	If things don't work out between you and Dirt Gypsy I live in Denver and might be able to do a little dealin with you! __________________ 1988 FJ62. Half doors! No sway bars! Confer Roof Rack! 31in BFG ATs! Summer Plans: SOA with 35s. 1951 Chevy 3100 pickup! [noparse][/noparse] :flamingo:

03-31-08, 12:18 PM	#8
Dirtgypsy IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Newberg, Oregon TLCA# 17541 Posts: 829	sent you a pm Guy. pm me or call if you want to explore this swap further. clint __________________ It's a Jeep thing I didn't understand. So I bought an FJ60 and now I get it. 1987 FJ60, 2F, H55F, 4.11's, Rear ARB locker, ARB bumper, MAF Safari 4" SR, 33 12.50 15 on old school Mags. ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wa...lver-60-a.html

03-31-08, 01:48 PM	#9
zuluzeugma Search 1st, THEN ASK Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kilgore, TX Posts: 861	This sounds very strange. Dumb question: Are your shocks limiting your travel??? __________________ 72' FJ55 - SOA, SR, DB, FJ62 PS, Webber, Header, H.E.I., 37 X 12.5 X 15 MT/R's, Savanah-heat air freshener. 83' FJ60 - Mint Condition which is now FOR SALE 07' FJC - Atrac Hack - DD 03' Matrix Xrs - It's her's 08' Tundra, 4.7 2WD - Company Truck

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