Improved handling - FJ60

Mike S · 08-28-04, 11:45 AM

When I recently had OME suspension installed on my 60, Mudrak suggested that I consider installing the rear sway bar from the FJ62 on the FF axle we were installing. It bolted right up, and cost very little. This, in addition to the OME suspension has been a tremendous improvement on on highway hadling in the hills. Seems to provide a firmer footing on corners.

If you are looking for better highway manners, this may help.

HZJ60 Guy · 08-28-04, 01:14 PM

I wonder if you can do that with a spring over?

TB

Mike S · 08-28-04, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HZJ60 Guy

I wonder if you can do that with a spring over?

TB

The bar attaches to the frame with a pivoting rod which fits a bracket on the frame and passes through the eye in the end of the bar. The SOA setup seems feasible if this rod were extended. Not sure about the geometry. If you could look under a 62, you might be able to figure this without a problem.

Mike S

lovetoski · 08-28-04, 05:23 PM

I added a rear sway bar to my 60, and it's a noticable improvement. Not as big a deal as the new 3" suspension, and fixing all the worn stuff in the steering though...

masscrusher · 08-29-04, 07:24 AM

Since the installation of the new OME lift last week I have noticed that when I get heavy on the gas pedal, the rear sways a bit. I blame the automatic locker more than anything else. I bet if I install one of them rear sway bars all that side to side movement might be gone.

But my worry about limiting flex. It is my understanding that the sway bar will do so. Anybody knowns about this?

ojsdna744 · 08-29-04, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by masscrusher

But my worry about limiting flex. It is my understanding that the sway bar will do so. Anybody knowns about this?

Yes...the swaybar will limit your flex a bit...but the solid on-road feel will be worth it. If you have a locker back there working for ya...the "flex" it loses for you won't be missed much.

Waggoner5 · 08-29-04, 09:01 AM

HZJ60 Guy I wonder if you can do that with a spring over?

Yes you can , and should have one on a SOA. You will have to make longer links though. It makes a dramatic improvement.
Gary

bad_religion_au · 08-29-04, 09:11 AM

as for losing flex, make swaybar disconnects, just a removable pin somewhere in your swaybar setup that you can pull when you lock in your hubs, presto, sway bar not limiting flex

Landpimp · 08-29-04, 09:16 AM

FYI, only 84+ fj60's have the sway bar mounts on axle and holes in frame. If you have a lift get/or make longer sway bar links.

swank60 · 08-29-04, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Landpimp

FYI, only 84+ fj60's have the sway bar mounts on axle and holes in frame.

Does anyone know exactly when that started? My 60 is a Nov '83 (1984 year model) - as always, I'm right on the stupid line and isn't an easy call.

If I crawl up under the truck, what should I be looking for? Is there a good diagram or photos anywhere (like SOR)?

Landpimp · 08-29-04, 10:40 AM

I did but I don't remember now.

but look for this

Quote:

Originally Posted by swank60

Does anyone know exactly when that started? My 60 is a Nov '83 (1984 year model) - as always, I'm right on the stupid line and isn't an easy call.

If I crawl up under the truck, what should I be looking for? Is there a good diagram or photos anywhere (like SOR)?

sl33py · 09-03-04, 12:24 PM

OK, another less than bright question (my specialty) -

can someone show me the swaybar all connected up on a 60? I have a 85 60 and would like to improve stability on the rear... any of them big damn pics?

thanks guys!

Landpimp · 09-03-04, 12:40 PM

you know I ment to snap a pic the other day..........I will today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sl33py

OK, another less than bright question (my specialty) -

can someone show me the swaybar all connected up on a 60? I have a 85 60 and would like to improve stability on the rear... any of them big damn pics?

thanks guys!

sl33py · 09-03-04, 01:04 PM

thanks pimp. So it looks relatively easy (?yes?), how much and where can you get em?

Landpimp · 09-03-04, 01:20 PM

WAY easy, like 5-10 mins. I got mine from our 88 fj62 that had been in a accident, seen them sell for $100 for all the bits needed. If lifted you will want to buy or make extend links(I bought mine from MAF for $40)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sl33py

thanks pimp. So it looks relatively easy (?yes?), how much and where can you get em?

Landpimp · 09-03-04, 06:33 PM

sl33py · 09-07-04, 07:31 PM

sweet pics, thanks Pimp! yeah that looks pretty easy. Just have to look and see if i have the mounts on my 7/85 60...hmm...another project with no time...lol. you da man.

Razor · 09-08-04, 11:25 AM

As I went around a corner last night, all the BBQ stuf dumped over on the dog..........................ARF........

This Sway system will help ??

I like the idea of a quick disconnect.
The only one I have found is new set up w/extensions...for $200..is that the going rate ??

Landpimp · 09-08-04, 01:19 PM

yep it handles better on the road for sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor

As I went around a corner last night, all the BBQ stuf dumped over on the dog..........................ARF........

This Sway system will help ??

I like the idea of a quick disconnect.
The only one I have found is new set up w/extensions...for $200..is that the going rate ??

Mike S · 09-08-04, 05:20 PM

I bought mine on the For Sale section of this BB, paid $35 plus shipping, but had to buy the axle housing side brackets and bushings. Maybe $150 for the whole deal. Used MAF connector links to accomodate the 2-1/2" lift.

Mike S

MANUCHAO · 03-21-06, 07:28 PM

Hey all. I just found this thread and did not/was not able see the picture that was posted. Any chance of reposting or e-mailing me the actual pic?

Thanks !!!

Carpe Discus · 03-21-06, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Landpimp

FYI, only 84+ fj60's have the sway bar mounts on axle and holes in frame. If you have a lift get/or make longer sway bar links.

Damn! I was set to do this for my '83, too. Guess it was better to find out now. Is the retrofit a pain?

Toadhopper · 03-21-06, 11:44 PM

Cruiserparts.net has the swaybars for about $100.00.
Ask for one thats not too rusted! I went to change the bushings and everything was frozen solid.
Toad

landcruiserdude · 03-22-06, 09:58 AM

Or just go and buy everything new from Toyota for around $200. Just use the 89 FJ62 as the guide vehicle. That's what I did, and I'm glad I checked, rather than cleaning up rusted used parts.

dogbone · 11-23-06, 06:20 PM

the pics are missing now... if possible, can someone out there repost them or send them to me via email?

thanks
john
dogbonedoctors@aol.com

ToyDownUnder · 11-25-06, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogbone

the pics are missing now... if possible, can someone out there repost them or send them to me via email?

thanks
john
dogbonedoctors@aol.com

Ditto, here too if some one could help out.

Thanks

2mbb · 11-25-06, 04:48 PM

There are some pic's in this thread...(use the search function)

http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/100440-rear-sway-bar-82-fj60.html

Oscar V · 04-20-07, 11:45 PM

I did an soa on my Fj 62 and the damn mechanic threw them away. Aint that a bitch

Tinker · 04-21-07, 01:25 PM

LCDude - you get 'em from your local stealer or CruiserDan?

mtb_rider · 04-21-07, 02:02 PM

Holy back from the dead!

08-28-04, 11:45 AM	#1
Mike S IH8MUD Lifer - No Appeal Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,513	Improved handling - FJ60 When I recently had OME suspension installed on my 60, Mudrak suggested that I consider installing the rear sway bar from the FJ62 on the FF axle we were installing. It bolted right up, and cost very little. This, in addition to the OME suspension has been a tremendous improvement on on highway hadling in the hills. Seems to provide a firmer footing on corners. If you are looking for better highway manners, this may help. __________________ '96 FZJ80, locked, Hanna sliders, ARB bumper, Kaymar rear with spare carrier, 45 gallon Longranger aux fuel tank, OBA, Hella 4000's, OME lift, 285/75/R16 Revos & AutoHome Maggiolina rooftop tent, etc. Custom Cruiser trailer with OverLand tent www.AutoHomeUS.com TLCA Member #14874

08-28-04, 01:14 PM	#2
HZJ60 Guy Tank Buster Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Seattle area TLCA# 13102 Posts: 2,252	I wonder if you can do that with a spring over? TB __________________ 2001 VW TDI Bora 1987 Toyota HZTJ-60 I'm a democrat member of the House of Representatives, and I've got what it takes to take what you've got!

08-28-04, 05:23 PM	#4
lovetoski IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,583	I added a rear sway bar to my 60, and it's a noticable improvement. Not as big a deal as the new 3" suspension, and fixing all the worn stuff in the steering though... __________________ Doug G Seattle, WA TLCA#12671 1994 fzj80, 275,000 miles, 285X75/15, Billy's, dual batteries 1987 fj60, 310,00 miles, 3" lift, 33X10.50's BFG MT, dual battery, rear drawers, CB, tuffy, , lockright, 4.10's and H41 soon

08-29-04, 07:24 AM	#5
masscrusher IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Massachusetts TLCA# 13009 Posts: 165	Since the installation of the new OME lift last week I have noticed that when I get heavy on the gas pedal, the rear sways a bit. I blame the automatic locker more than anything else. I bet if I install one of them rear sway bars all that side to side movement might be gone. But my worry about limiting flex. It is my understanding that the sway bar will do so. Anybody knowns about this? __________________ Jose Merced TLCA #13009 and Yankee Toys 1972 FJ40 All your base are belong to us

08-29-04, 09:01 AM	#7
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,207	HZJ60 Guy I wonder if you can do that with a spring over? Yes you can , and should have one on a SOA. You will have to make longer links though. It makes a dramatic improvement. Gary __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

08-29-04, 09:11 AM	#8
bad_religion_au Spit my last breath Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,517	as for losing flex, make swaybar disconnects, just a removable pin somewhere in your swaybar setup that you can pull when you lock in your hubs, presto, sway bar not limiting flex __________________ What can you do when you wake up and realise you sacrificed everything you ever wanted in life for the sake of progress?

08-29-04, 09:16 AM	#9
Landpimp IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gig Harbor WA TLCA# 5506 Posts: 11,439	FYI, only 84+ fj60's have the sway bar mounts on axle and holes in frame. If you have a lift get/or make longer sway bar links.

09-03-04, 12:24 PM	#12
sl33py IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Emerald City TLCA# 13992 Posts: 603	OK, another less than bright question (my specialty) - can someone show me the swaybar all connected up on a 60? I have a 85 60 and would like to improve stability on the rear... any of them big damn pics? thanks guys! __________________ Rob TLCA #13992 1987 FJ60 "TeeK" 1985 FJ60 "Hank" Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future.

09-03-04, 01:04 PM	#14
sl33py IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Emerald City TLCA# 13992 Posts: 603	thanks pimp. So it looks relatively easy (?yes?), how much and where can you get em? __________________ Rob TLCA #13992 1987 FJ60 "TeeK" 1985 FJ60 "Hank" Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future.

09-03-04, 06:33 PM	#16
Landpimp IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gig Harbor WA TLCA# 5506 Posts: 11,439

09-07-04, 07:31 PM	#17
sl33py IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Emerald City TLCA# 13992 Posts: 603	sweet pics, thanks Pimp! yeah that looks pretty easy. Just have to look and see if i have the mounts on my 7/85 60...hmm...another project with no time...lol. you da man. __________________ Rob TLCA #13992 1987 FJ60 "TeeK" 1985 FJ60 "Hank" Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future.

09-08-04, 11:25 AM	#18
Razor IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Berthoud Colorado Posts: 1,009	As I went around a corner last night, all the BBQ stuf dumped over on the dog..........................ARF........ This Sway system will help ?? I like the idea of a quick disconnect. The only one I have found is new set up w/extensions...for $200..is that the going rate ?? __________________ TLCA#12161 Since 2001 Buncha 'OL Toyota Cars & Trucks "Some very fast, some very slow"

09-08-04, 05:20 PM	#20
Mike S IH8MUD Lifer - No Appeal Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,513	I bought mine on the For Sale section of this BB, paid $35 plus shipping, but had to buy the axle housing side brackets and bushings. Maybe $150 for the whole deal. Used MAF connector links to accomodate the 2-1/2" lift. Mike S __________________ '96 FZJ80, locked, Hanna sliders, ARB bumper, Kaymar rear with spare carrier, 45 gallon Longranger aux fuel tank, OBA, Hella 4000's, OME lift, 285/75/R16 Revos & AutoHome Maggiolina rooftop tent, etc. Custom Cruiser trailer with OverLand tent www.AutoHomeUS.com TLCA Member #14874

03-21-06, 07:28 PM	#21
MANUCHAO No way Eh !!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: c0vina, CA TLCA# N0PE Posts: 517	Hey all. I just found this thread and did not/was not able see the picture that was posted. Any chance of reposting or e-mailing me the actual pic? Thanks !!! __________________ MaNu !!! '85--FJ60-L59 E-mail: viviendo.de.mar.a.cordillera@gmail.com manamana tút turút too manamana !!!!

03-21-06, 11:44 PM	#23
Toadhopper IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 491	Cruiserparts.net has the swaybars for about $100.00. Ask for one thats not too rusted! I went to change the bushings and everything was frozen solid. Toad

03-22-06, 09:58 AM	#24
landcruiserdude IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 353	Or just go and buy everything new from Toyota for around $200. Just use the 89 FJ62 as the guide vehicle. That's what I did, and I'm glad I checked, rather than cleaning up rusted used parts.

11-23-06, 06:20 PM	#25
dogbone IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7	the pics are missing now... if possible, can someone out there repost them or send them to me via email? thanks john dogbonedoctors@aol.com

11-25-06, 04:48 PM	#27
2mbb IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: WC, CA TLCA# 6404 Posts: 1,881	There are some pic's in this thread...(use the search function) http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/100440-rear-sway-bar-82-fj60.html __________________ mbb 1985 FJ-60

04-20-07, 11:45 PM	#28
Oscar V IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7	I did an soa on my Fj 62 and the damn mechanic threw them away. Aint that a bitch

04-21-07, 01:25 PM	#29
Tinker IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Larkspur, CO Posts: 2,175	LCDude - you get 'em from your local stealer or CruiserDan? __________________ "His mudder was a mudder".

04-21-07, 02:02 PM	#30
mtb_rider IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wilsonville, OR Posts: 702	Holy back from the dead! __________________ "Where is it we're going again? And why are we in this handbasket?" '88 FJ62. Little over 100k. 2nd owner. No rust. K&N, custom dual battery system, Optima Blue Tops, 3" Lift. 33x12.5 Firestone Destination MT's on Centerline two piece alloys. Pro Comp 9000's. My myspace.