Has anyone done this to a 60 or 62?

sfcruiser · 02-11-08, 10:37 PM

Does anyone have pics of this on a 60 or 62?

CruisinFJ60 · 02-11-08, 10:40 PM

interesting...

jpeg · 02-11-08, 10:49 PM

sweet!

jgordon · 02-11-08, 11:02 PM

Doesnt look like it'd be that hard either - 60 roofs are pretty flimsy, no?

sfcruiser · 02-11-08, 11:07 PM

here's the link

Translated version of http://www.ronaldbrunner.ch/projekte/hdj100.htm

landcruiserjunky · 02-11-08, 11:22 PM

These threads involving a pop-up roof, always end with someone saying that a vw camper's top will work, but no one ends up knowing for sure. I think its about time we find out.

sfcruiser · 02-11-08, 11:44 PM

I figure its all flat pieces, easier said than done. What do you guys think. Say fab it up with cardboard to get the correct angles and roof radius's. Maybe a box frame on the inside that the panels attach to. Have it rest on the roof.

The last major thing being cutting a hole in the roof. and capping it on the inside.

Fabricators, can you advise?

chukardog · 02-12-08, 12:46 AM

are you reffering to the ultra gay orange paint job or the poser snorkel?

heh heh

bigbrown · 02-12-08, 12:55 AM

kinda, but not so blingy.

kling-on · 02-12-08, 07:25 AM

ok now that cool !! I wonder were I could get a cheap top to try it on

landcruiserjunky · 02-12-08, 01:13 PM

Big Brown, do you have any further info on that top?

Tvaldriz · 02-12-08, 01:35 PM

It says "Westphalia". A German company that makes pop-up tops for
VWs and other rigs.

Whoever does a search and locates the right top that is still available gets a prize...

kevinmrowland · 02-12-08, 06:56 PM

I have sketch books full of drawings and designs for eventually doing this to my truck, but no, I have never seen a clean, well integrated 60 series pop-top anywhere near as slick as the one at the top of the page.
If anyone has, I would love to see it.
There is a lot out there on 70 series, and I have seen couple on 60s, but very poorly integrated.
This is definitely on the long term mod list.

Links:
Willkommen bei Innovation Campers!
Tom’s Fahrzeugtechnik 06 Gebrauchtfahrzeuge
Ex-Tec Expeditions- und Rallye-Technik - Werkstatt
Translated version of http://www.desert-tec.de/

And a collection of photos I have shamelessly stolen from the web.

bigbrown · 02-12-08, 07:55 PM

i can't remember where i stole those photos from.

on here i think.

cruiser88 · 02-12-08, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgordon

Doesnt look like it'd be that hard either - 60 roofs are pretty flimsy, no?

If the 60/62 has no rust

they will hold up

Blue 60 · 02-13-08, 08:51 AM

I found the pics that bigbrown posted about a year or two ago on their website. They are a Dutch couple (I think....) and I got to their website from a links page on another site that I can't remember or find right now. will post an answer if I find it... (edit) Here is the link Natuurlijk Afrika Hope you read Dutch well....

It is a Westfalla (VW) top that they spliced onto their cruiser.

Blue 60

calphi27 · 02-13-08, 11:24 AM

I was just talking about it here:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/camping-gear...te-poptop.html

I want one that would lift straight up, so that a roof rack could be used. Was thinking about some kind of scissor framework that would open it, maybe with a small hydraulic actuators to push it up. There would be an internal frame for stability, and a removable floor attached to the top of the frame. Maybe i need to keep it simple though.

calphi27 · 02-13-08, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfcruiser

here's the link

Translated version of http://www.ronaldbrunner.ch/projekte/hdj100.htm

ok so this doesn't look all that difficult. looks like an aluminum frame and box. anybody work with aluminum or have some scraps for a prototype?

then just some heave tent material. we could brainstorm a prototype.

kevinmrowland · 02-13-08, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calphi27

ok so this doesn't look all that difficult. looks like an aluminum frame and box. anybody work with aluminum or have some scraps for a prototype?

then just some heave tent material. we could brainstorm a prototype.

I am getting pretty good with aluminum these days, but I can tell you that the fab work there is high quality stuff.
If you notice with the 100 they had the luxury of a reinforced roof (from the sunroof option) and heavy duty factory mounts for the OE roof rack. If you look close at the pics you can see how they used aluminum angle mounted to the rack mounts and then welded the frame to it. The frame is the easy part, that nice skin on the outside took some skill.
I have studied a lot of pop top pictures, and that 100 is one of the slickest I have seen.

kevinmrowland · 02-13-08, 12:15 PM

I have also looked closely at the Element pop top, nicely done. They actually leave the entire roof in place and use the sun roof as an access hatch to the tent. Simplifies it a bit, but you loose the ability to stand up inside the truck, which would be o-so-cool.

rbcruiser · 02-13-08, 01:00 PM

Hi frends,

you have finding my Landcruiser HDJ 100, wow

I have this car Reconstruction had sold him.!
It is a pleasure for me if he had fallen out.
Unfortunately, I can not so good in English so that I do with a Translation Programm Work.
If someone wants to know something, just ask! Maybe in German if possible.

Yours sincerely Ronald

calphi27 · 02-13-08, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbcruiser

Hi frends,

you have finding my Landcruiser HDJ 100, wow

I have this car Reconstruction had sold him.!
It is a pleasure for me if he had fallen out.
Unfortunately, I can not so good in English so that I do with a Translation Programm Work.
If someone wants to know something, just ask! Maybe in German if possible.

Yours sincerely Ronald

sweet my email worked. anyone know german?

Willkommen Ronald!

britklr · 02-13-08, 02:32 PM

This is a great thread! I tried fabbing up a top for a heep that I had but never got it finished....I still have the alum. frame and a portion of the pop top....I'll see if I have pictures to post. Anyway, I can tell you it's a lot of work and a lot of Alum....I purchased all my alum. from the scrap yard, by the pound. I'd still love to do it to my 60 someday!

fowldarr · 02-13-08, 02:34 PM

Ummmm, I can pick my way around German a little bit, so if anyone has a question I will try my best to translate....but it will probably be the german equivalent of his english.

calphi27 · 02-13-08, 03:01 PM

He sent me about a dozen pics, can someone post them if I forward. I am not to good at posting decent pics.

kevinmrowland · 02-13-08, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbcruiser

Hi frends,

you have finding my Landcruiser HDJ 100, wow

I have this car Reconstruction had sold him.!
It is a pleasure for me if he had fallen out.
Unfortunately, I can not so good in English so that I do with a Translation Programm Work.
If someone wants to know something, just ask! Maybe in German if possible.

Yours sincerely Ronald

Welcome to Mud! Your truck is getting pretty famous these days, I have seen it on several forums now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by calphi27

He sent me about a dozen pics, can someone post them if I forward. I am not to good at posting decent pics.

wagongear@mac.com, I can just throw them on my idisk and link them here.

Pacer · 02-13-08, 04:33 PM

the Westfalla top on the brown 60 looks to me to be from one of the '80s vintage bus, should be readily available in a scrap yard near you. I know the tents are replaceable and I bet JC Whitney still sells-em.

kevinmrowland · 02-13-08, 04:37 PM

Alright, thanks to calphi, and a big thanks to Ronald:

02-11-08, 10:37 PM	#1
sfcruiser IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Francisco TLCA# 17834 Posts: 61	Has anyone done this to a 60 or 62? Does anyone have pics of this on a 60 or 62? __________________ sfcruiser Last edited by sfcruiser; 03-21-08 at 01:20 PM.

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jpeg IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Seattle, WA TLCA# 16405 Posts: 82	sweet! __________________ J. Graham Seattle, WA TLCA #16405 1988 FJ62, 157,000 miles, Freeborn Red, 33 x 9.5 BFG AT/KO's, speedo corrected, alarm system with remote start & kill switch, custom rack.

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jgordon IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 621	Doesnt look like it'd be that hard either - 60 roofs are pretty flimsy, no? __________________ _____________ J Gordon 12/1985 FJ60 "After all, It is just a crew cab tractor." - D'Animal

02-11-08, 11:07 PM	#5
sfcruiser IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Francisco TLCA# 17834 Posts: 61	here's the link Translated version of http://www.ronaldbrunner.ch/projekte/hdj100.htm __________________ sfcruiser

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landcruiserjunky IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Between Worlds Posts: 1,060	These threads involving a pop-up roof, always end with someone saying that a vw camper's top will work, but no one ends up knowing for sure. I think its about time we find out. __________________ 1984 baby blue fj60- Has everything you want on it!

02-11-08, 11:44 PM	#7
sfcruiser IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Francisco TLCA# 17834 Posts: 61	On that note I figure its all flat pieces, easier said than done. What do you guys think. Say fab it up with cardboard to get the correct angles and roof radius's. Maybe a box frame on the inside that the panels attach to. Have it rest on the roof. The last major thing being cutting a hole in the roof. and capping it on the inside. Fabricators, can you advise? __________________ sfcruiser

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chukardog IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: Snohomish, Wa Posts: 703	are you reffering to the ultra gay orange paint job or the poser snorkel? heh heh

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bigbrown IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: portland, OR Posts: 346	kinda, but not so blingy. Attached Images __________________ 84 fj60, 9000lb winch, 33x10.5 bfg's, 2" ironman, 2nd owner, 285k miles.

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kling-on IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pimpin part in SanAntonio TX TLCA# 15374 Posts: 1,480	ok now that cool !! I wonder were I could get a cheap top to try it on __________________ 82 FJ60 OME Heavy 33BFG's 410's , ARB bull & side bars 85 FJ60 Trail beater SM 420 crawler box lockers 456,38's bobed & choped with a Metal Tech cage 85 SR5 new DD GIT-R-DONE!!!! TLCA #15374 low riders want SWITCHES... 4 wheelers want SHIFTERS www.jkcustoms.com

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landcruiserjunky IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Between Worlds Posts: 1,060	Big Brown, do you have any further info on that top? __________________ 1984 baby blue fj60- Has everything you want on it!

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Tvaldriz IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SF Bay area, California TLCA# 18387 Posts: 440	It says "Westphalia". A German company that makes pop-up tops for VWs and other rigs. Whoever does a search and locates the right top that is still available gets a prize... __________________ White 1987 FJ60. www.marlincrawler.com Member: TCLA #18387, Central Valley Crawlers

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kevinmrowland IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Scottsville, NY TLCA# 14896 Posts: 1,244	I have sketch books full of drawings and designs for eventually doing this to my truck, but no, I have never seen a clean, well integrated 60 series pop-top anywhere near as slick as the one at the top of the page. If anyone has, I would love to see it. There is a lot out there on 70 series, and I have seen couple on 60s, but very poorly integrated. This is definitely on the long term mod list. Links: Willkommen bei Innovation Campers! Tom’s Fahrzeugtechnik 06 Gebrauchtfahrzeuge Ex-Tec Expeditions- und Rallye-Technik - Werkstatt Translated version of http://www.desert-tec.de/ And a collection of photos I have shamelessly stolen from the web. __________________ 1985HZJ60 ROTW WagonGear Last edited by kevinmrowland; 02-12-08 at 07:17 PM.

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bigbrown IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: portland, OR Posts: 346	i can't remember where i stole those photos from. on here i think. __________________ 84 fj60, 9000lb winch, 33x10.5 bfg's, 2" ironman, 2nd owner, 285k miles.

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Blue 60 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa TLCA# 17998 Posts: 139	I found the pics that bigbrown posted about a year or two ago on their website. They are a Dutch couple (I think....) and I got to their website from a links page on another site that I can't remember or find right now. will post an answer if I find it... (edit) Here is the link Natuurlijk Afrika Hope you read Dutch well.... It is a Westfalla (VW) top that they spliced onto their cruiser. Blue 60 __________________ Blue '84 fj60 - All Stock, but still quite capable. '93 FZJ80 - Stock & Locked, and even more capable. Tall Corn Cruisers

02-13-08, 11:24 AM	#17
calphi27 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 811	I was just talking about it here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/camping-gear...te-poptop.html I want one that would lift straight up, so that a roof rack could be used. Was thinking about some kind of scissor framework that would open it, maybe with a small hydraulic actuators to push it up. There would be an internal frame for stability, and a removable floor attached to the top of the frame. Maybe i need to keep it simple though. __________________ 1990 FJ62 aka -HogMauler- (OME Med-SR-ARB Bull Bar-SROR Sliders) TLCA# 11319 1995 Saab 9k Aero (Custom intake and exhaust) ----- HOPKINS BAY RESORT ----- ---Ask Me About Getting An iPhone or a Wii---

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kevinmrowland IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Scottsville, NY TLCA# 14896 Posts: 1,244	I have also looked closely at the Element pop top, nicely done. They actually leave the entire roof in place and use the sun roof as an access hatch to the tent. Simplifies it a bit, but you loose the ability to stand up inside the truck, which would be o-so-cool. __________________ 1985HZJ60 ROTW WagonGear

02-13-08, 01:00 PM	#21
rbcruiser IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1	Hi frends, you have finding my Landcruiser HDJ 100, wow I have this car Reconstruction had sold him.! It is a pleasure for me if he had fallen out. Unfortunately, I can not so good in English so that I do with a Translation Programm Work. If someone wants to know something, just ask! Maybe in German if possible. Yours sincerely Ronald

02-13-08, 02:32 PM	#23
britklr IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 225	This is a great thread! I tried fabbing up a top for a heep that I had but never got it finished....I still have the alum. frame and a portion of the pop top....I'll see if I have pictures to post. Anyway, I can tell you it's a lot of work and a lot of Alum....I purchased all my alum. from the scrap yard, by the pound. I'd still love to do it to my 60 someday!

02-13-08, 02:34 PM	#24
fowldarr IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: SE Idaho Posts: 552	Ummmm, I can pick my way around German a little bit, so if anyone has a question I will try my best to translate....but it will probably be the german equivalent of his english. __________________ Damn the man, save the Empire! 84 FJ-60, nothing special....yet.

02-13-08, 03:01 PM	#25
calphi27 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 811	He sent me about a dozen pics, can someone post them if I forward. I am not to good at posting decent pics. __________________ 1990 FJ62 aka -HogMauler- (OME Med-SR-ARB Bull Bar-SROR Sliders) TLCA# 11319 1995 Saab 9k Aero (Custom intake and exhaust) ----- HOPKINS BAY RESORT ----- ---Ask Me About Getting An iPhone or a Wii---

02-13-08, 04:33 PM	#27
Pacer IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Phila Posts: 88	the Westfalla top on the brown 60 looks to me to be from one of the '80s vintage bus, should be readily available in a scrap yard near you. I know the tents are replaceable and I bet JC Whitney still sells-em. __________________ Pacer 1972 r75/5 1974 r90/6 1989 fj62 2002 325xit

02-13-08, 04:37 PM	#28
kevinmrowland IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Scottsville, NY TLCA# 14896 Posts: 1,244	Alright, thanks to calphi, and a big thanks to Ronald: