LCOwner's build up 1.0 - Page 2

LCOwner · 03-08-08, 11:05 PM

The sitcks will be up a little farther when it's all finished. I got the high/low, in/out knobs form Marlin although you can't see them.

LCOwner · 03-08-08, 11:10 PM

A little problem I'm having with the Ruff Stuff parts. Rotating the pinion angle up makes the hole for the front bolt too close to the housing. I spoke to Dan a while back about this and he was going to do a little redesign and get me an up-dated piece but I haven't seen it on my door step so far.

freds40 · 03-08-08, 11:14 PM

Jason and I talked about this today. What about welding a nut on the bottom side and just run a bolt itno it kind of like the Dodge 60s? Or Jason thought of using a socket head cap screw. The narrower head might fit from the bottom.

LCOwner · 03-08-08, 11:15 PM

With the ToyBox moving the t-case back some 6"+ I would think my pinion angle would be less that someone without it. So the plate is deffinatly an issue. I still haven't got enough angle IMO.

LCOwner · 03-08-08, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freds40

Jason and I talked about this today. What about welding a nut on the bottom side and just run a bolt itno it kind of like the Dodge 60s? Or Jason thought of using a socket head cap screw. The narrower head might fit from the bottom.

I'd still need to grind the poo out of a nut to get it to fit. The socket head might work. Do you think National Hardware would have one? I'm still going to call Dan on Monday and see where he is with it.

freds40 · 03-08-08, 11:42 PM

If any place in town would it'd be National. I've got some decent sized Socket head cap screws from them.

freds40 · 03-10-08, 11:45 AM

What is the length from the bellhousing to your front output? On Jason's we are looking @ somewhere between 42 and 46" so we won't need a ton more pinion angle.

Just curious from your pics what we will be looking at.

LCOwner · 03-10-08, 11:56 AM

Bell housing at the engine or bell housing at the trans? This is a 420 i'm puting in remember.

chappysfj40 · 03-10-08, 12:08 PM

looking good

freds40 · 03-10-08, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freds40

What is the length from the bellhousing to your front output? On Jason's we are looking @ somewhere between 42 and 46" so we won't need a ton more pinion angle.

Just curious from your pics what we will be looking at.

Yeah I remember the 420. From the back of the block to the fron output location. Curious how much further back Jason't front output will be.

LCOwner · 03-10-08, 03:58 PM

I'll try and get you a rough est. tonight. Nothing bolted together but I can add.

Before you pull this drive train, get me a measurement from the bottom of the frame to the bottom of the drain plug please.

freds40 · 03-10-08, 04:09 PM

Which plug?

LCOwner · 03-10-08, 04:11 PM

Drain plug.

weak-link · 03-10-08, 04:14 PM

FWIW I'll be 28.5" from bellhousing to front flange, not 47" like I thought

weak-link · 03-10-08, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCOwner

Drain plug.

engine?
trans?
t-case?

LCOwner · 03-10-08, 06:38 PM

T-case. I want to get the angle of the drive train as close to what it was. I forgot to measure before I pulled it out.

freds40 · 03-10-08, 10:14 PM

T-case drain plug to the bottom of the frame is 3" lower.

LCOwner · 03-22-08, 06:21 PM

Splitcase freshened up and ToyBox assembled. weal-link isn't the only one with the cool sight tube. I safety wired them to make sure the slip fittings don't come loose.

LCOwner · 03-22-08, 06:22 PM

I've had this Marlin Built SM420 on the shelf for a couple years. I was planning on using it in my FJ40 but using it in the Wagon will get me on the trail with the super gozlow gearing. A good friend machined the indexing ring and sleve for the bearing retainer. This 420 is an early model with the oil slinger on the input shaft so I can't use the AA unit. Extreme Bends isn't making these parts anymore due to demand either.

LCOwner · 03-22-08, 06:30 PM

I ground the side of the high/low shifter rod to rotate it 90deg. This will let me run the twin sticks I mentioned earlier. DO NOT TRY THIS WITH THE CASE ASSEMBLED. You will loose the rod into the case and then have to take it apart anyway.

weak-link · 03-22-08, 09:07 PM

so what did you get done this week

safety wire?

LCOwner · 03-22-08, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weak-link

so what did you get done this week

safety wire?

Quit bustin my OO and go make babies.

.

Let see since Jason isn't happy with my reporting, I stabbed the trans ,adjusted the clutch, cut holes in the floor for the shifters and tinkered with the twin sticks.

There, happy now.

weak-link · 03-22-08, 09:39 PM

nice!!! Marlin kept wanting to call you to see if you working on it.

LCOwner · 03-22-08, 09:54 PM

I had to knock off at 4:00 to sit with the boy and get ready for Easter. I'll be back on it Monday unless I can find a way to excuse myself tomorrow between church and egg hunts.

CaliCruiser · 03-22-08, 10:30 PM

Looks awful purty!

freds40 · 03-22-08, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCOwner

Quit bustin my OO and go make babies.

.

Agreed. And in the words of Hazel as taught by you.....Get crack-a-lackin!!!

Butt Ugly Chuck · 03-23-08, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCOwner

Splitcase freshened up and ToyBox assembled. weal-link isn't the only one with the cool sight tube. I safety wired them to make sure the slip fittings don't come loose.

Them's purrrdy!
Butt

weak-link · 04-01-08, 11:42 PM

It's been 11 days, get anything done yet?

03-08-08, 11:05 PM	#31
LCOwner Hudson's Dad Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 498	The sitcks will be up a little farther when it's all finished. I got the high/low, in/out knobs form Marlin although you can't see them. Attached Images __________________ If you’re not part of an organized volunteer group working on the trails, YOU are the problem.

03-08-08, 11:10 PM	#32
LCOwner Hudson's Dad Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 498	A little problem I'm having with the Ruff Stuff parts. Rotating the pinion angle up makes the hole for the front bolt too close to the housing. I spoke to Dan a while back about this and he was going to do a little redesign and get me an up-dated piece but I haven't seen it on my door step so far. Attached Images __________________ If you’re not part of an organized volunteer group working on the trails, YOU are the problem.

03-08-08, 11:14 PM	#33
freds40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 364	Jason and I talked about this today. What about welding a nut on the bottom side and just run a bolt itno it kind of like the Dodge 60s? Or Jason thought of using a socket head cap screw. The narrower head might fit from the bottom. __________________ My old 40, lowrider on leafs: http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=19561.0 Building my 60: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wa...ilds-60-a.html www.4x4him.com

03-08-08, 11:15 PM	#34
LCOwner Hudson's Dad Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 498	With the ToyBox moving the t-case back some 6"+ I would think my pinion angle would be less that someone without it. So the plate is deffinatly an issue. I still haven't got enough angle IMO. Attached Images __________________ If you’re not part of an organized volunteer group working on the trails, YOU are the problem.

03-08-08, 11:42 PM	#36
freds40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 364	If any place in town would it'd be National. I've got some decent sized Socket head cap screws from them. __________________ My old 40, lowrider on leafs: http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=19561.0 Building my 60: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wa...ilds-60-a.html www.4x4him.com

03-10-08, 11:45 AM	#37
freds40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 364	What is the length from the bellhousing to your front output? On Jason's we are looking @ somewhere between 42 and 46" so we won't need a ton more pinion angle. Just curious from your pics what we will be looking at. __________________ My old 40, lowrider on leafs: http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=19561.0 Building my 60: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wa...ilds-60-a.html www.4x4him.com

03-10-08, 11:56 AM	#38
LCOwner Hudson's Dad Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 498	Bell housing at the engine or bell housing at the trans? This is a 420 i'm puting in remember. __________________ If you’re not part of an organized volunteer group working on the trails, YOU are the problem.

03-10-08, 12:08 PM	#39
chappysfj40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: PORT HUENEME , CA TLCA# 9188 Posts: 475	looking good __________________ - Iam home now from the SUCK !!!!!!! VJ60 700R4 33's 203 doubler, ARB's 4.56, OME and just a awesome truck!!!!!!!!!! - RUBITHON 2008 TESTED GOD ASKED FOR 10 DAYS TO CREATE EARTH, CHUCK NORRIS GAVE HIM 7..

03-10-08, 03:58 PM	#41
LCOwner Hudson's Dad Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 498	I'll try and get you a rough est. tonight. Nothing bolted together but I can add. Before you pull this drive train, get me a measurement from the bottom of the frame to the bottom of the drain plug please. __________________ If you’re not part of an organized volunteer group working on the trails, YOU are the problem.

03-10-08, 04:09 PM	#42
freds40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 364	Which plug? __________________ My old 40, lowrider on leafs: http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=19561.0 Building my 60: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wa...ilds-60-a.html www.4x4him.com

03-10-08, 04:11 PM	#43
LCOwner Hudson's Dad Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 498	Drain plug. __________________ If you’re not part of an organized volunteer group working on the trails, YOU are the problem.

03-10-08, 04:14 PM	#44
weak-link IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fresno,ca Posts: 694	FWIW I'll be 28.5" from bellhousing to front flange, not 47" like I thought __________________ www.4x4Him.com Pit Bull Rescue Central http://www.pbrc.net/

03-10-08, 06:38 PM	#46
LCOwner Hudson's Dad Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 498	T-case. I want to get the angle of the drive train as close to what it was. I forgot to measure before I pulled it out. __________________ If you’re not part of an organized volunteer group working on the trails, YOU are the problem.

03-10-08, 10:14 PM	#47
freds40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 364	T-case drain plug to the bottom of the frame is 3" lower. __________________ My old 40, lowrider on leafs: http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=19561.0 Building my 60: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wa...ilds-60-a.html www.4x4him.com

03-22-08, 06:21 PM	#48
LCOwner Hudson's Dad Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 498	Splitcase freshened up and ToyBox assembled. weal-link isn't the only one with the cool sight tube. I safety wired them to make sure the slip fittings don't come loose. Attached Images __________________ If you’re not part of an organized volunteer group working on the trails, YOU are the problem.

03-22-08, 10:30 PM	#55
CaliCruiser IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pine Grove, Ca TLCA# 15987 Posts: 1,786	Looks awful purty! __________________ ROTW '85 FJ60 \| SOA \| ARB \| M8274-50 \| Sliders \| Aussie'd \| H55F \| 4.7 Toybox \| 4.88s \| Custom Crap

03-22-08, 06:22 PM	#49
LCOwner Hudson's Dad Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 498	I've had this Marlin Built SM420 on the shelf for a couple years. I was planning on using it in my FJ40 but using it in the Wagon will get me on the trail with the super gozlow gearing. A good friend machined the indexing ring and sleve for the bearing retainer. This 420 is an early model with the oil slinger on the input shaft so I can't use the AA unit. Extreme Bends isn't making these parts anymore due to demand either. Attached Images __________________ If you’re not part of an organized volunteer group working on the trails, YOU are the problem.

03-22-08, 06:30 PM	#50
LCOwner Hudson's Dad Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 498	I ground the side of the high/low shifter rod to rotate it 90deg. This will let me run the twin sticks I mentioned earlier. DO NOT TRY THIS WITH THE CASE ASSEMBLED. You will loose the rod into the case and then have to take it apart anyway. Attached Images __________________ If you’re not part of an organized volunteer group working on the trails, YOU are the problem.

03-22-08, 09:07 PM	#51
weak-link IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fresno,ca Posts: 694	so what did you get done this week safety wire? __________________ www.4x4Him.com Pit Bull Rescue Central http://www.pbrc.net/

03-22-08, 09:39 PM	#53
weak-link IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fresno,ca Posts: 694	nice!!! Marlin kept wanting to call you to see if you working on it. __________________ www.4x4Him.com Pit Bull Rescue Central http://www.pbrc.net/

03-22-08, 09:54 PM	#54
LCOwner Hudson's Dad Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 498	I had to knock off at 4:00 to sit with the boy and get ready for Easter. I'll be back on it Monday unless I can find a way to excuse myself tomorrow between church and egg hunts. __________________ If you’re not part of an organized volunteer group working on the trails, YOU are the problem.

04-01-08, 11:42 PM	#58
weak-link IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fresno,ca Posts: 694	It's been 11 days, get anything done yet? __________________ www.4x4Him.com Pit Bull Rescue Central