Parabolic Springs - Page 5

Steve-O · 07-19-06, 12:37 PM

Ok, well here is the most recent update. The springs are currently on the way to us. I dont anticipate seeing them for about 3 weeks or so. We are getting a variety of things in, 40, 60, and possibly a few sets for mini's. I will definately make a new page for the springs and list them on the main page of our site. I am still waiting for the shipping and customs info so I can get final pricing to list for everyone. Thanks for your patience!

Steve

Tapage · 07-19-06, 04:05 PM

Those are great news .. we are awaiting the test

brokenparts · 07-19-06, 04:44 PM

hey steve... you should of mentioned those springs when ordered the aals from you today.

Just kidding thanks for the help today on the phone.

Those look great... I'll consider those when I go soa.

Steve-O · 07-19-06, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brokenparts

hey steve... you should of mentioned those springs when ordered the aals from you today.

Just kidding thanks for the help today on the phone.

Those look great... I'll consider those when I go soa.

I havent mentioned them to too many people, I hate raving about a product we dont have. Plus I dont have the complete pricing yet, which is the first question people ask. Your welcome for the help, you can call me anytime!

brokenparts · 07-19-06, 05:25 PM

I was just giving you sh*t.... thanks again.

Darkrealms · 07-20-06, 11:08 PM

HOLY CR*P! Is it actually happening? Is someone in the US actually getting them : )

I remember watching this thread when it first started and noone could get answers. PLEASE keep us up to date!

Thanks
Brian

Live to Ski · 07-21-06, 11:45 AM

As previously stated, I am also very interested. I asked a couple of questions a while back, I don't think an answer was posted:
-will the parobolics account for the famous cruiser lean?
-will the parabolics have correction for caster (i think that's the right name)?

Tapage · 07-21-06, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Live to Ski

-will the parabolics have correction for caster (i think that's the right name)?

I thought for caster correction you have the shims ..

nikos8 · 07-21-06, 01:37 PM

Can we get Jim to give us an update on how these springs have held up? It has been a couple of years now and it would be interesting to see what he thinks of them. Hey Jim chime in!

TLCBJ40 · 07-26-06, 02:57 PM

I live in the netherlands, as Paul of TIC parabolic 4x4 suspension systems does.

I bought a set of springs from him a year ago, but they inverted

and today I went to his shop to collect a new set.

In front of his shop there were 3 stacks of springs ready to be picked up. I asked Paul if these were the ones you guys were waiting for and this was the case!!!

Just for two weeks no pickup. even today Paul thought they should be picked up, but no one came. He did not know if MAF were sending them by air or boat.

So if MAF organises it, they will come your way. Steve, please get them to a boat or plane, cause they are ready as they will ever be.

Tomorrow I will mount the new set i picked up today and see if the shackels will settle alright. I talked to Paul about the cruiser lean, the only thing he could do for me was to look in his computer to see which spring (they are all individually numbered by him) was more positive or negative after testing.

Hope you guys will receive them soon!!!

tclndcrz · 07-26-06, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLCBJ40

I live in the netherlands, as Paul of TIC parabolic 4x4 suspension systems does.

I bought a set of springs from him a year ago, but they inverted

and today I went to his shop to collect a new set.

In front of his shop there were 3 stacks of springs ready to be picked up. I asked Paul if these were the ones you guys were waiting for and this was the case!!!

Just for two weeks no pickup. even today Paul thought they should be picked up, but no one came. He did not know if MAF were sending them by air or boat.

So if MAF organises it, they will come your way. Steve, please get them to a boat or plane, cause they are ready as they will ever be.

Tomorrow I will mount the new set i picked up today and see if the shackels will settle alright. I talked to Paul about the cruiser lean, the only thing he could do for me was to look in his computer to see which spring (they are all individually numbered by him) was more positive or negative after testing.

Hope you guys will receive them soon!!!

if they inverted then you need longer shackles preferably anti-inversion shackles

TLCBJ40 · 07-26-06, 05:38 PM

No, I can't use the other springs. An anti-reversal shackle is no solution, it just prevents the invertion. The springs inverted because of the arch / bow of the spring in comparison to the weight it takes to open up en the length of the spring.

If a spring is the normal length (TIC springs are even 15 mm longer) but more arched then you can't solve this with shackles. either you make the spring extra long or you reduce the arch.

The old set was arched for much more weight than a standard cruiser (mine is a 4 cilinder diesel). They can work for the 6 cilinder petrol engines, for the front springs. in the back there is no weight, so the new set of springs is less arched.

I think Paul has improved the arch / length of the springs, so i hope you guys won't have any problems.

Jim_Phillips · 09-07-06, 11:47 AM

Springs held up well until I sold the vehicle 6 months ago. You should all be pleased...

Weaver · 10-08-06, 11:38 PM

any updates?

Steve-O · 10-09-06, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weaver

any updates?

Parabolics are in, we are still doing final fitment and testing. When they are available for sale they will definately be up on the main page of site.

Darkrealms · 10-10-06, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve-O

Parabolics are in, we are still doing final fitment and testing. When they are available for sale they will definately be up on the main page of site.

Steve

Maybe this was stated earlier. . . haven't read through this thread in a while.

What series did you get (FJ40,55,60, etc)?
Any idea's on prices?
Will you be posting here when available?

This is more for personal interest, but any chance of a one inch lower than stock version?
I SOA'd and got 6-6.5" and was only looking for 5", now my 35's look too small :(

Thanks
Brian

Tapage · 10-11-06, 05:35 AM

Steve .. nice to see some test pics about parabolics .. flex and ride ..

trucruiser · 11-02-06, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tapage

Steve .. nice to see some test pics about parabolics .. flex and ride ..

No pics yet?
how is the testing and fit coming along?

MrPiglet · 11-03-06, 07:10 AM

MAF is already advertising the springs in Trails so the fitment and testing must have been done. Steve... pics please!

calphi27 · 11-03-06, 09:07 AM

If I did not have a lift on already, then I would just buy the dang things from europe, ship them here, and get these pics up and test them. Man this has taken a long time, and I am gettin impatient. So......

Let's see some pics! Please.

Steve-O · 11-03-06, 09:49 AM

Here are a few shots to calm the mob!

We are still testing the springs, trying different leaf and shock combinations, spacers, shackles, etc. I know it is taking a long time but we want to make sure everything works, fits, and rides great before we start produceing kits for sale.

Thanks,
Steve

Steve-O · 11-03-06, 09:55 AM

Heres a few more for ya....

Steve-O · 11-03-06, 10:00 AM

last set for today

kwon-offroad · 11-03-06, 10:04 AM

Are those extended shackles?

Just trying to gauge overall lift with the pictures you posted.

And this doesn't appear like some crazy hi-tech technology. What would deter a stateside spring maker to start to make these upon seeing loss of sales from traditional leaf springs to parabolics?

Steve-O · 11-03-06, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwon-offroad

Are those extended shackles?

Just trying to gauge overall lift with the pictures you posted.

And this doesn't appear like some crazy hi-tech technology. What would deter a stateside spring maker to start to make these upon seeing loss of sales from traditional leaf springs to parabolics?

The shackles are extended, as I mentioned, we were trying different spring combinations. The pictures show a few different lifts actually. We got as much as 6 inches of lift and as low as 2.5 to 3 inches of lift by removing leaves and changing shackles.

I believe the main difficulty in developing these springs is the tapering of the leaves. You can notice that the center of the springs are thicker than the ends of the springs. Parabolics are nothing new to the U.S. market, just new to the Toyota market. A lot of larger commercial trucks are using parabolic springs from what I hear.

Steve-O · 11-03-06, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwon-offroad

Are those extended shackles?

Just trying to gauge overall lift with the pictures you posted.

And this doesn't appear like some crazy hi-tech technology. What would deter a stateside spring maker to start to make these upon seeing loss of sales from traditional leaf springs to parabolics?

The shackles are extended yes, because of the arc of the springs, stock length shackles ending being too short for installation. The pictures show a few different lifts actually. We got as much as 6 inches of lift and as low as 2.5 to 3 inches of lift by removing/adding leaves and changing shackles. We also loaded up the vehicle with different items and people to see what it would sit and ride like.

I believe the main difficulty in developing these springs is the tapering of the leaves. You can notice that the center of the springs are thicker than the ends of the springs. Parabolics are nothing new to the U.S. market, just new to the Toyota market. A lot of larger commercial trucks are using parabolic springs from what I hear.

07-19-06, 12:37 PM	#121
Steve-O Man-A-Fre!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 759	Update Ok, well here is the most recent update. The springs are currently on the way to us. I dont anticipate seeing them for about 3 weeks or so. We are getting a variety of things in, 40, 60, and possibly a few sets for mini's. I will definately make a new page for the springs and list them on the main page of our site. I am still waiting for the shipping and customs info so I can get final pricing to list for everyone. Thanks for your patience! Steve __________________ Steve H. Man-A-Fre

07-19-06, 04:44 PM	#123
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,354	hey steve... you should of mentioned those springs when ordered the aals from you today. Just kidding thanks for the help today on the phone. Those look great... I'll consider those when I go soa. __________________ "Just bump it" I am offended by reality all the time. http://www.cascadecruisers.com/ http://www.myspace.com/zachsu ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/198064-rotw-brokenparts-fj-60-a.html

07-19-06, 05:25 PM	#125
brokenparts IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR TLCA# 16127 Posts: 2,354	I was just giving you sht.... thanks again. __________________ "Just bump it"* I am offended by reality all the time. http://www.cascadecruisers.com/ http://www.myspace.com/zachsu ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/198064-rotw-brokenparts-fj-60-a.html

07-21-06, 01:37 PM	#129
nikos8 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York City TLCA# 15091 Posts: 430	Can we get Jim to give us an update on how these springs have held up? It has been a couple of years now and it would be interesting to see what he thinks of them. Hey Jim chime in! __________________ 1988 FJ62 - 383 LT1 conversion nearing completion!

07-26-06, 02:57 PM	#130
TLCBJ40 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Utrecht, the Netherlands Posts: 12	I live in the netherlands, as Paul of TIC parabolic 4x4 suspension systems does. I bought a set of springs from him a year ago, but they inverted and today I went to his shop to collect a new set. In front of his shop there were 3 stacks of springs ready to be picked up. I asked Paul if these were the ones you guys were waiting for and this was the case!!! Just for two weeks no pickup. even today Paul thought they should be picked up, but no one came. He did not know if MAF were sending them by air or boat. So if MAF organises it, they will come your way. Steve, please get them to a boat or plane, cause they are ready as they will ever be. Tomorrow I will mount the new set i picked up today and see if the shackels will settle alright. I talked to Paul about the cruiser lean, the only thing he could do for me was to look in his computer to see which spring (they are all individually numbered by him) was more positive or negative after testing. Hope you guys will receive them soon!!! __________________ [restoring a cruiser is like reviving a legend]

07-21-06, 11:45 AM	#127
Live to Ski IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Park City, Utah/San Diego Posts: 279	As previously stated, I am also very interested. I asked a couple of questions a while back, I don't think an answer was posted: -will the parobolics account for the famous cruiser lean? -will the parabolics have correction for caster (i think that's the right name)?

07-26-06, 05:38 PM	#132
TLCBJ40 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Utrecht, the Netherlands Posts: 12	No, I can't use the other springs. An anti-reversal shackle is no solution, it just prevents the invertion. The springs inverted because of the arch / bow of the spring in comparison to the weight it takes to open up en the length of the spring. If a spring is the normal length (TIC springs are even 15 mm longer) but more arched then you can't solve this with shackles. either you make the spring extra long or you reduce the arch. The old set was arched for much more weight than a standard cruiser (mine is a 4 cilinder diesel). They can work for the 6 cilinder petrol engines, for the front springs. in the back there is no weight, so the new set of springs is less arched. I think Paul has improved the arch / length of the springs, so i hope you guys won't have any problems. __________________ [restoring a cruiser is like reviving a legend]

09-07-06, 11:47 AM	#133
Jim_Phillips IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 619	Springs held up well until I sold the vehicle 6 months ago. You should all be pleased... __________________ 1979 BJ40 - Now in Morocco 1989 HJ62 - Now in Pieces The journey of a thousand miles begins with a broken fan belt and a leaky tire

10-08-06, 11:38 PM	#134
Weaver IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ellensburg, WA TLCA# 16770 Posts: 211	any updates?

11-03-06, 07:10 AM	#139
MrPiglet IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10	MAF MAF is already advertising the springs in Trails so the fitment and testing must have been done. Steve... pics please!

11-03-06, 09:07 AM	#140
calphi27 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 806	If I did not have a lift on already, then I would just buy the dang things from europe, ship them here, and get these pics up and test them. Man this has taken a long time, and I am gettin impatient. So...... Let's see some pics! Please. __________________ 1990 FJ62 aka -HogMauler- (OME Med-SR-ARB Bull Bar-SROR Sliders) TLCA# 11319 1995 Saab 9k Aero (Custom intake and exhaust) ----- HOPKINS BAY RESORT ----- ---Ask Me About Getting An iPhone or a Wii---

11-03-06, 09:49 AM	#141
Steve-O Man-A-Fre!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 759	Here are a few shots to calm the mob! We are still testing the springs, trying different leaf and shock combinations, spacers, shackles, etc. I know it is taking a long time but we want to make sure everything works, fits, and rides great before we start produceing kits for sale. Thanks, Steve Attached Images __________________ Steve H. Man-A-Fre

11-03-06, 09:55 AM	#142
Steve-O Man-A-Fre!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 759	Heres a few more for ya.... Attached Images __________________ Steve H. Man-A-Fre

11-03-06, 10:00 AM	#143
Steve-O Man-A-Fre!!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 759	last set for today Attached Images __________________ Steve H. Man-A-Fre

11-03-06, 10:04 AM	#144
kwon-offroad IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 151	Are those extended shackles? Just trying to gauge overall lift with the pictures you posted. And this doesn't appear like some crazy hi-tech technology. What would deter a stateside spring maker to start to make these upon seeing loss of sales from traditional leaf springs to parabolics? __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1990 - FJ62 - "Tank" - Stocker - SOLD 1993 - Mercedes-Benz 500E - Porsche's first true 4door sedan! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_500E 1994 - Mercedes-Benze E320 Sportline Wagon Put the -anta back in the ATL!