My first ever engine swap.....!!!!!

MANUCHAO · 04-23-07, 12:50 AM

Ok, so I got me an engine now.

Got the space, some time and some tools ....but thats about it...

Life is grand !!!

Here are some pics of the donor....

I'll post pics as the project snails along

Dynosoar · 04-23-07, 07:20 AM

Very Cool! Hey Manuchao looking good. Let me know when your gonna pull the 2f I'll come by and help.

Dynosoar

iaintscared1969 · 04-23-07, 02:48 PM

Have fun and take your time. But it's not that bad

nicholastheczar · 04-23-07, 02:55 PM

I'd love to do that swap. Take a bunch of pictures during the swap so i can talk myself into doing one.

D'Animal · 04-23-07, 02:58 PM

Dang, is that going in a 60?

HZJ60 Guy · 04-23-07, 03:00 PM

What the heck is it?

Gassers!

D'Animal · 04-23-07, 03:02 PM

Chevy V-8 Vortec engine.

HZJ60 Guy · 04-23-07, 03:31 PM

Well, if I was into gassers it would definitely be a Chebby. They make the best gas engines by a long shot....

MANUCHAO · 04-23-07, 03:37 PM

Dysoar. I'll let yah know...!! Thanks

Iaintscared, I'll sure take my time doing this swap... a few months perhaps !! Thanks for all the info....

Nicholas, I'll take as many as I can promise......I said exactly the same thing when I saw Philos1 did his and that tip the scales for me.

D'Animal, yes that is going in a 85 Fj60...

HZJ60, If I could of got a close to new deisel I would of gone that route, but..................

nicholastheczar · 04-23-07, 04:14 PM

How much did you pay for the engine?

MANUCHAO · 04-23-07, 04:28 PM

Its a 2006 L59. Engine/tranny I got it initially for 3k but finally scored it for $2,700.
It came off of a Chevy Silverado 4x4 p/u truck.

philos1 · 04-23-07, 04:35 PM

geez man!!! that thing is brand freaking new!!!! call me when you get into it and I'll come help too...

iaintscared1969 · 04-23-07, 05:20 PM

Are you going to run the drive by wire? Or go for the cable setup?

HZJ60 Guy · 04-23-07, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MANUCHAO

Dysoar. I'll let yah know...!! Thanks

Iaintscared, I'll sure take my time doing this swap... a few months perhaps !! Thanks for all the info....

Nicholas, I'll take as many as I can promise......I said exactly the same thing when I saw Philos1 did his and that tip the scales for me.

D'Animal, yes that is going in a 85 Fj60...

HZJ60, If I could of got a close to new deisel I would of gone that route, but..................

I sure didnt mean to be critical of you. Nice motor foe show.

Ive heard of people finding Cummins motors for that price, but they sure arent new.

Good score.

MANUCHAO · 04-23-07, 06:39 PM

HZJ60.. no worries...mate...

I dream of diesels all the time.. perhaps in the future with a FJ45LB eh !!!!

Aintscared, english buddy

If you got the time please translate:
Are you going to run the drive by wire? Or go for the cable setup?

Can you see now how much fun this is going to be !!!! HA !!

Im way over my head on this project but Im glad Im doing it..!!!!
At least Im good at posting smilies eh !!!

Dynosoar · 04-23-07, 07:13 PM

Your not over your head. You will find it to be fairly painless. With Philos and I on board to help you it should be a breaze! (Famous last words).

Dynosoar

iaintscared1969 · 04-24-07, 05:59 AM

Sorry, Are you staying with the stock throttle body set up? If so you would need to convert your gas pedal setup. If you go with a 99 throttle body you can run a cable actuated pedal. (easier) Sorry about the english, my wife tells me the same thing...

philos1 · 04-24-07, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by iaintscared1969

Sorry, Are you staying with the stock throttle body set up? If so you would need to convert your gas pedal setup. If you go with a 99 throttle body you can run a cable actuated pedal. (easier) Sorry about the english, my wife tells me the same thing...

Manuchao, try to go this way- that would be my suggestion...

now get to ripping stuff out! and get some pics too! and... sorry, I'm just excited for ya man...

hightide · 04-24-07, 11:03 AM

One Day!!!
Keep us posted. You sir are my hero.

MANUCHAO · 04-24-07, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaintscared1969

Sorry, Are you staying with the stock throttle body set up? If so you would need to convert your gas pedal setup. If you go with a 99 throttle body you can run a cable actuated pedal. (easier) Sorry about the english, my wife tells me the same thing...

Ah ok, now I understand... Thanks eh !!

Well, what do you guys think?
The engine I got came with the complete pedal mechanism....but I hear what you and Philos1 are saying loud and clear and yes Im trying to keep this as easy and cheap as I can....

The menu for tomorrows lunch calls for some light wrenching.

iaintscared1969 · 04-25-07, 11:01 AM

A 30.00 Lokar cable, 35.00 Ebay t body and a plastic clip compared to mocking in the pedal assy and another hole in the fire wall. I liked option 1. But it's not that it can't be done. It depends on how the pedal will sit on the floor board and the fab work But I don't think it would be to hard. Post a pic of the assy. And enjoy lunch!!

Oh and are you running the Auto tranny? Clearance issues with the front driveline.

MANUCHAO · 04-26-07, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by iaintscared1969

Post a pic of the assy. And enjoy lunch!!

I'll post a pic of it later on today....

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Originally Posted by iaintscared1969

Oh and are you running the Auto tranny? Clearance issues with the front driveline.

At this time Im split 50/50 as to what to go with. I know it comes down to personal preference. However, Im also looking at the $$$ side of things and Im leaning towards the 5 speed tranny (cheaper) less fab. Im not understanding the clearance issues you are talking about. I contacted AA and metioned the two options... price wise they are about $100 difference but they did not mentioned the clearance issues with the drive line...maybe I missed it or dont know what to ask for?

Could you elaborate a little more on this topic...is there a kit that AA sells or is this a fab issue?
Oh yeah I have a OME lift standar 2.5" lean to pass side included Heavy all around and 4x4 extended shackles on the front to undo the sting bug look...
I wonder if having the lift will cure the clearance issues?

Thanks dude.....

beaufort-fj60 · 04-26-07, 12:38 PM

nice score. the engine looks new

iaintscared1969 · 04-26-07, 01:22 PM

Look at your front axle shaft; see how beefy it is?; now look in the AA catalog they sell a leaned down version. That shaft helps with the clearance but it still requires a slight pan modification to assist it. Not to mention you have to have the AA shaft welded to length. Stay with the 5 speed you'll thank me later. Oh not to mention you need to cool the tranny what's the game plan there? New radiator or tranny cooler? Just trying to help you out.

Dynosoar · 04-26-07, 03:49 PM

The Auto is real nice! Espescialy since it's an overdrive trans. In LA there is a LOT of traffic and it sucks shifting from 1st to 2nd to 1st to 2nd a zillion times a day. With the 460le the clearence issues should be negligable. It was not that big a deal even with my turbo 400. And on top of it all Manucho knows I want his h55 for my project (FJ65 pickup).

Dynosoar

philos1 · 04-26-07, 04:51 PM

frank- call the smog refs and check for sure that you can use your manual, or better yet, maybe go by there (go to the one at pierce college). the tech was real nice and seemed interested in helping out. he can double check that 2006 vortec V8 powered silverados are/were available with manual transmissions in CA, because I don't know. just don't tell him that you already have the auto "I only have the motor, and I'm not sure if the truck had a manual or auto when I bought it"

A lie, but only a small one to help you out man.

Tinker · 04-26-07, 08:09 PM

Manu -
Dunno how tall you are, but you can get an extra 3-4" of leg room with a Lokar gas pedal by poking the arm through the original hole for the Yota throttle linkage (obviusly ditching the drive-by-wire, or maybe that would be easier).

I modified the brake pedal & mounted a Lokar '55 Chevy pedal pad to line up with the gas pedal correctly. Then I put a LX470 dead pedal against the kick panel. It's now comfortable to drive since my right knee isn't bent up to where it hits the steering wheel.

For a real subtle look, a Lokar shifter through the stock hole & boot will make most folks think it's still a stick.

By the way - you'll like the 4L60E. But if it came out of the same 4x4 you'll need to change a shaft. AA has them.

My 5.7 turns 2,200 rpm at 75 mph with 4.11s & 33x10.50 MTRs. Better everywhere except when you want complete control over the RPMs, like downhill.

MANUCHAO · 04-26-07, 08:52 PM

Here are the pics of the pedal...

iaintscared...I'll have to look at the AA website. I believe yah bro. I dont have the catalog....... Yeah it sounds like a lot more mods are in order for this swap.

Dynosoar, if I dont use or can't use the tranny I'll have to go auto and yes you would have first dibs on it...

Shane, it crossed my mind on that other thread but I did not want to address it...(stick my head in the sand and hope it goes away) but you are absolutely right..

I better call and find out....but I already get the feeling that it is a matter of how you interpret the law and also who the refferee will be at the time of checking the actual work.. Thanks for the info on Pierce College.

Im trying to pull the whole engine/tranny/tc together, along with all the smog stuff... ya'll think I'll be able to unplug the smog stuff from the fender and just throw in on top of the engine w/o snapping/damaging anything?....
Engine will probably go for sale some time this year.......

Tinker, thanks for all that info. iaintscared mentioned the Lokar gas pedal and the outputshaft on the A/T. I'll have to look into it some more.
I have seen the Lokar shifter and it does look nice. I also read up on Marks Adapters out of AU and they sell one too specific for the FJ60. Maybe AA carries it, we'll see.......
2,200rpms at 75mph on 4.11 eh... Dang that sounds nice....

Laters,

And thaks for all the info, and please if you got any input do post.

MrZero · 04-26-07, 09:14 PM

Man, blue rigs are owning the Vortec swap!!!

klinetime574 · 04-26-07, 09:34 PM

your engine bay looks better than mine. and your doing a swap. haha. how many miles are on the 2f?