My first ever engine swap.....!!!!! - Page 5

MANUCHAO · 09-06-07, 11:24 PM

So I got the exhaust manifolds(LS2 corvette).. and they fit....but, I dont know if they will squeeze in between the frame and they might be on the way of the motor mounts. I'll post pics tomorrow !!! Also unlike the original EM these have the O2 sensors right in the middle I dont know if the different location makes a difference.

philos1 · 09-07-07, 12:50 AM

how about some pics frank?

djawahir · 09-07-07, 01:45 AM

I don't think the location of the O2 sensors are going to matter much, as long as 2 are before the CATs and 2 are after the CATs.

Yeah, where's the pics???

iaintscared1969 · 09-07-07, 05:00 AM

Won't matter on the location for the sensors. Just need to make sure you have some clearance.

Dynosoar · 09-07-07, 07:11 AM

If they fit on the heads we will make them work. "It's only metal we can out think it". Lets get welding on that thing, you have to have it all done in time for S&T.

Dynosoar

MANUCHAO · 09-07-07, 08:19 AM

thats the kind of UMPT I need guys..Thanks !!!

Pics posted later today for sure...
Cool about the 02 sensors and Im sure it doesn't matter much right now but Im curious.. I see the 02 sensors on the exhaust pipes before and after the cats but the wiring has only two connections.

Randy, that's my main concern right now but I think we'll find out once I drop that thing into the bay... and Im aware of the return fuel line.. is that were the canister comes into play...(I dont know, Im guessing) I'll learn something new today !!

Peter when is S&T ??

Laters guys..gotta do some boring stuff now (work) !!

iaintscared1969 · 09-07-07, 08:47 AM

Yes the canister will need to be hooked up you will also need a pressure regulator. The regulator needs to be adjusted to 62 PSI @ zero vacuum. Just FYI

djawahir · 09-07-07, 10:23 AM

What sources are you guys using for the pressure regulator?

iaintscared1969 · 09-07-07, 10:35 AM

I use Jegs. They have many to choose from just make sure it is rated up to 65 or 70 psi with a return line.

ferd69 · 09-13-07, 11:06 PM

HI Manuchao

I bought a pair of 2002 Camaro exhaust manifold for my conversion. I can stop by with them if you would like to test fit them. Let me know I'll take a few pictures this weekend too

Ferd

MANUCHAO · 09-14-07, 09:50 AM

Ferd I got a set of LS2 EM.
I dont know if they will fit within the frame but I'll know until I drop her in.
Yah welcome do drop by this Saturday.
I'll be working working from morning till 12 noon.
Let me know if that works for yah.
Sunday Im working so, no can do...
I just saw your thread you already got your engine in I see. Woah I want to talk to yah about the tranny drive shaft issues..
Let me know
My e-mail is the one on my sig.

Laters,

Dynosoar · 09-14-07, 05:25 PM

Hey Manuchao, Get moving on that thing! S&T is November 2nd. That is your deadline. Lets get that engine and trans in there and weld it up. Did you send your harness out yet? I can't come by this weekend but maybe next weekend.

Dynosoar

Downey · 09-14-07, 05:43 PM

The Downey or AA adapter you will use from 4L60E to split case is several inches long, and eliminates the front driveshaft clearence problem. The miniturized driveshaft stuff is for different conversions using shorter adapters. We also have two different kinds of reluctor ring set-ups, one at the tranny, and one at the split T.C. I recommend you get one of our freebie V8 instruction manuals ASAP, before you burn up the alternator , and mess up on the 6 wires that go from ECU to your vehicle (not engine). Good luck with it Kimosabi!!!

GulfShoresFJ60 · 09-14-07, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downey

The Downey or AA adapter you will use from 4L60E to split case is several inches long, and eliminates the front driveshaft clearence problem. The miniturized driveshaft stuff is for different conversions using shorter adapters. We also have two different kinds of reluctor ring set-ups, one at the tranny, and one at the split T.C. I recommend you get one of our freebie V8 instruction manuals ASAP, before you burn up the alternator , and mess up on the 6 wires that go from ECU to your vehicle (not engine). Good luck with it Kimosabi!!!

It's great seeing vendors get on the forum and help their customers. I am getting all the info together for a swap this winter and it has been very nice seeing you helping and clarifying things on the swap. I also called today and got your instruction manuals coming which will help immensely. I can't wait to get the thing installed and I know with a vendor like y'all it'll be pretty painless!

MANUCHAO · 09-14-07, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynosoar

Hey Manuchao, Get moving on that thing! S&T is November 2nd. That is your deadline. Lets get that engine and trans in there and weld it up. Did you send your harness out yet? I can't come by this weekend but maybe next weekend.

Dynosoar

Dyno, I hear yah ...I got my gear box today tapped and rebuilt and will be able to do some wrenching (half day) tomorrow. Im working Sunday and I gots to work next weekend too. What about the weekend of the 29th ?
Lemme know... Thanks eh...
This week and next Im going to be prepping the frame and under body except for area where the motor mounts will be welded..
I was going to prep the front axle too but I think I'll wait....
I feel a SOA coming on but I gots to put it back together and smogged first !!!
No harness yet. If Im using all stock Engine/tranny what does sending the harness out do for the swap. Im at lost on this one. Please explain if you have the time.

Oiii Philos1 Im going to need yah mad welding skills eh !!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downey

The Downey or AA adapter you will use from 4L60E to split case is several inches long, and eliminates the front drive shaft clearance problem. The miniaturized driveshaft stuff is for different conversions using shorter adapters. We also have two different kinds of reluctor ring set-ups, one at the tranny, and one at the split T.C. I recommend you get one of our freebie V8 instruction manuals ASAP, before you burn up the alternator , and mess up on the 6 wires that go from ECU to your vehicle (not engine). Good luck with it Kimosabi!!!

Hi yah Jim thanks for chiming in on this. I think I'll be able to clear the front shaft I got the correct reluctor ring from yah guys along with the reading material..great stuff..... I know yah explain the alternator a while back when I went to pick up the rad but can't say I remember everything yah said....

philos1 · 09-15-07, 12:26 AM

Lemme know when you need me and I'll be over...

now get some pics up!

MANUCHAO · 09-18-07, 02:19 PM

Hey guys..
Here are some pics of my slow arse project !!

MANUCHAO · 09-18-07, 02:25 PM

I just finish the frame and did as told...drank a cold beer after I finished.. boy that felt good and it looks good too.. I treated the side and seal them as I seen on "another" thread...
I did not do the axles as I may go higher later on...I'll do them then....
I also will have to grind to bare metal once I get the motor mounts but it'll be a little spot and then touch it up...

MANUCHAO · 09-18-07, 02:33 PM

I also went under the truck and sprayed under as I had some nice bare metal showing. So I POR15it primer it and spray painted it... It came out really nice...but most important it will last longer...

Im truly enjoying working in this truck...who knew !!!!

Next is putting back the gear box, fuel lines mating that tranny to the engine and dropping it into the bay !!

iaintscared1969 · 09-18-07, 03:05 PM

Alright Frank, SHOW OFF...Looking great though!! Let's see that engine in there!!

MANUCHAO · 09-18-07, 03:12 PM

Eh yah Randi !!

How do yah bring the engine closer to the tranny..I got a hoist and the engine is sitting pretty on a pallet..
Does the torque converter go first... Dang Im a rookie eh !!!!

iaintscared1969 · 09-18-07, 03:40 PM

I always put the flywheel and convertor on first then move my tranny into place with the tranny jack. Put the engine on jack stands and block the back of the pan up level. Then lift the tranny into place.(Use the hoist and save your back) It seems easier for me that way and I don't have to mess with trying to get the three bolts in the convertor with a tranny to deal with. But you can put the convertor in the tranny then bolt the housing and then go for the convertor bolts. It's which ever way you feel it would be easier. Hope it helps.

MANUCHAO · 09-18-07, 04:11 PM

Im also looking at getting a fan for the rad..
Do any of you guys know if a LINCOLN MARK VIII ELECTRIC RADIATOR FAN would work.
Will this be overkill at 4-5k CFM.......
I have a new rad (aluminum) waiting to be installed...

iaintscared1969 · 09-18-07, 04:49 PM

I think it would be overkill. You can use the Contour fan and be just fine. What size Alt. is on that engine? 105 or 130 it is stamped on the Alt.

philos1 · 09-18-07, 05:46 PM

nice job Frank!

PAFJ · 09-18-07, 06:35 PM

Damn Frank... lookin sharp!

09-06-07, 11:24 PM	#121
MANUCHAO No way Eh !!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: c0vina, CA TLCA# N0PE Posts: 514	So I got the exhaust manifolds(LS2 corvette).. and they fit....but, I dont know if they will squeeze in between the frame and they might be on the way of the motor mounts. I'll post pics tomorrow !!! Also unlike the original EM these have the O2 sensors right in the middle I dont know if the different location makes a difference. __________________ MaNu !!! '85--FJ60-L59 E-mail: viviendo.de.mar.a.cordillera@gmail.com manamana tút turút too manamana !!!!

09-07-07, 12:50 AM	#122
philos1 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the valley, yeah that one Posts: 1,384	how about some pics frank? __________________ 1987 fj60, stuff, and some other stuff. i call her "tootsie roll"- http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...t=tootsie+roll defender of the good, mo-fessional drunk, total art-fag, and all around nice guy...

09-07-07, 01:45 AM	#123
djawahir Suffering from V8 Madness Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 392	I don't think the location of the O2 sensors are going to matter much, as long as 2 are before the CATs and 2 are after the CATs. Yeah, where's the pics??? __________________ I have the uncanny ability to make things harder than they really are. V8 swap progress: Frame's out getting galvanized and powdercoated...planning out the electrical goodies!

09-07-07, 05:00 AM	#124
iaintscared1969 RT Customs Vortec Junky Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Irving, Tx. TLCA# 17528 Posts: 1,662	Won't matter on the location for the sensors. Just need to make sure you have some clearance. __________________ Cool place to get all the cruiser crap you could want! http://cruisercrap.com 1989 FJ 62 4" Hell Creek Suspension, Bridgestone Duellers 33X12.50, Hummer sliders modified of course, HI-Lift Jack, Pioneer Equipment Rack, HFS 2.5 Shackles, Defender Light rack, 4 KC Rally 800 series lights, All new steering components,First responder kit, and a whole lotta stickers! Member: LSLC, DFW and Austin, BSLCA

09-07-07, 07:11 AM	#125
Dynosoar V8J60 - TPI Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: SoCal TLCA# 17857 Posts: 1,611	If they fit on the heads we will make them work. "It's only metal we can out think it". Lets get welding on that thing, you have to have it all done in time for S&T. Dynosoar __________________ '82 V8J60 - TPI 350 with a Turbo 400 attached to a splitcase, Cable Locker FF rear end, 4" SUA (National Spring), Copper Metalic Has been south to Cabo San Lucas, BCS and North to Port Angels,WA. Call Sign: KI6SMP

09-07-07, 08:19 AM	#126
MANUCHAO No way Eh !!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: c0vina, CA TLCA# N0PE Posts: 514	thats the kind of UMPT I need guys..Thanks !!! Pics posted later today for sure... Cool about the 02 sensors and Im sure it doesn't matter much right now but Im curious.. I see the 02 sensors on the exhaust pipes before and after the cats but the wiring has only two connections. Randy, that's my main concern right now but I think we'll find out once I drop that thing into the bay... and Im aware of the return fuel line.. is that were the canister comes into play...(I dont know, Im guessing) I'll learn something new today !! Peter when is S&T ?? Laters guys..gotta do some boring stuff now (work) !! __________________ MaNu !!! '85--FJ60-L59 E-mail: viviendo.de.mar.a.cordillera@gmail.com manamana tút turút too manamana !!!!

09-07-07, 08:47 AM	#127
iaintscared1969 RT Customs Vortec Junky Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Irving, Tx. TLCA# 17528 Posts: 1,662	Yes the canister will need to be hooked up you will also need a pressure regulator. The regulator needs to be adjusted to 62 PSI @ zero vacuum. Just FYI __________________ Cool place to get all the cruiser crap you could want! http://cruisercrap.com 1989 FJ 62 4" Hell Creek Suspension, Bridgestone Duellers 33X12.50, Hummer sliders modified of course, HI-Lift Jack, Pioneer Equipment Rack, HFS 2.5 Shackles, Defender Light rack, 4 KC Rally 800 series lights, All new steering components,First responder kit, and a whole lotta stickers! Member: LSLC, DFW and Austin, BSLCA

09-07-07, 10:23 AM	#128
djawahir Suffering from V8 Madness Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 392	What sources are you guys using for the pressure regulator? __________________ I have the uncanny ability to make things harder than they really are. V8 swap progress: Frame's out getting galvanized and powdercoated...planning out the electrical goodies!

09-07-07, 10:35 AM	#129
iaintscared1969 RT Customs Vortec Junky Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Irving, Tx. TLCA# 17528 Posts: 1,662	I use Jegs. They have many to choose from just make sure it is rated up to 65 or 70 psi with a return line. __________________ Cool place to get all the cruiser crap you could want! http://cruisercrap.com 1989 FJ 62 4" Hell Creek Suspension, Bridgestone Duellers 33X12.50, Hummer sliders modified of course, HI-Lift Jack, Pioneer Equipment Rack, HFS 2.5 Shackles, Defender Light rack, 4 KC Rally 800 series lights, All new steering components,First responder kit, and a whole lotta stickers! Member: LSLC, DFW and Austin, BSLCA

09-13-07, 11:06 PM	#130
ferd69 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 30	HI Manuchao I bought a pair of 2002 Camaro exhaust manifold for my conversion. I can stop by with them if you would like to test fit them. Let me know I'll take a few pictures this weekend too Ferd

09-14-07, 09:50 AM	#131
MANUCHAO No way Eh !!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: c0vina, CA TLCA# N0PE Posts: 514	Ferd I got a set of LS2 EM. I dont know if they will fit within the frame but I'll know until I drop her in. Yah welcome do drop by this Saturday. I'll be working working from morning till 12 noon. Let me know if that works for yah. Sunday Im working so, no can do... I just saw your thread you already got your engine in I see. Woah I want to talk to yah about the tranny drive shaft issues.. Let me know My e-mail is the one on my sig. Laters, __________________ MaNu !!! '85--FJ60-L59 E-mail: viviendo.de.mar.a.cordillera@gmail.com manamana tút turút too manamana !!!!

09-14-07, 05:25 PM	#132
Dynosoar V8J60 - TPI Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: SoCal TLCA# 17857 Posts: 1,611	Hey Manuchao, Get moving on that thing! S&T is November 2nd. That is your deadline. Lets get that engine and trans in there and weld it up. Did you send your harness out yet? I can't come by this weekend but maybe next weekend. Dynosoar __________________ '82 V8J60 - TPI 350 with a Turbo 400 attached to a splitcase, Cable Locker FF rear end, 4" SUA (National Spring), Copper Metalic Has been south to Cabo San Lucas, BCS and North to Port Angels,WA. Call Sign: KI6SMP

09-14-07, 05:43 PM	#133
Downey IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Whittier, Calif. TLCA# Associate Member/Sponsor Posts: 695	The Downey or AA adapter you will use from 4L60E to split case is several inches long, and eliminates the front driveshaft clearence problem. The miniturized driveshaft stuff is for different conversions using shorter adapters. We also have two different kinds of reluctor ring set-ups, one at the tranny, and one at the split T.C. I recommend you get one of our freebie V8 instruction manuals ASAP, before you burn up the alternator , and mess up on the 6 wires that go from ECU to your vehicle (not engine). Good luck with it Kimosabi!!!

09-15-07, 12:26 AM	#136
philos1 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the valley, yeah that one Posts: 1,384	Lemme know when you need me and I'll be over... now get some pics up! __________________ 1987 fj60, stuff, and some other stuff. i call her "tootsie roll"- http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...t=tootsie+roll defender of the good, mo-fessional drunk, total art-fag, and all around nice guy...

09-18-07, 02:19 PM	#137
MANUCHAO No way Eh !!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: c0vina, CA TLCA# N0PE Posts: 514	Hey guys.. Here are some pics of my slow arse project !! Attached Images __________________ MaNu !!! '85--FJ60-L59 E-mail: viviendo.de.mar.a.cordillera@gmail.com manamana tút turút too manamana !!!!

09-18-07, 02:25 PM	#138
MANUCHAO No way Eh !!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: c0vina, CA TLCA# N0PE Posts: 514	I just finish the frame and did as told...drank a cold beer after I finished.. boy that felt good and it looks good too.. I treated the side and seal them as I seen on "another" thread... I did not do the axles as I may go higher later on...I'll do them then.... I also will have to grind to bare metal once I get the motor mounts but it'll be a little spot and then touch it up... Attached Images __________________ MaNu !!! '85--FJ60-L59 E-mail: viviendo.de.mar.a.cordillera@gmail.com manamana tút turút too manamana !!!! Last edited by MANUCHAO; 09-18-07 at 02:35 PM.

09-18-07, 02:33 PM	#139
MANUCHAO No way Eh !!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: c0vina, CA TLCA# N0PE Posts: 514	I also went under the truck and sprayed under as I had some nice bare metal showing. So I POR15it primer it and spray painted it... It came out really nice...but most important it will last longer... Im truly enjoying working in this truck...who knew !!!! Next is putting back the gear box, fuel lines mating that tranny to the engine and dropping it into the bay !! Attached Images __________________ MaNu !!! '85--FJ60-L59 E-mail: viviendo.de.mar.a.cordillera@gmail.com manamana tút turút too manamana !!!!

09-18-07, 03:05 PM	#140
iaintscared1969 RT Customs Vortec Junky Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Irving, Tx. TLCA# 17528 Posts: 1,662	Alright Frank, SHOW OFF...Looking great though!! Let's see that engine in there!! __________________ Cool place to get all the cruiser crap you could want! http://cruisercrap.com 1989 FJ 62 4" Hell Creek Suspension, Bridgestone Duellers 33X12.50, Hummer sliders modified of course, HI-Lift Jack, Pioneer Equipment Rack, HFS 2.5 Shackles, Defender Light rack, 4 KC Rally 800 series lights, All new steering components,First responder kit, and a whole lotta stickers! Member: LSLC, DFW and Austin, BSLCA

09-18-07, 03:12 PM	#141
MANUCHAO No way Eh !!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: c0vina, CA TLCA# N0PE Posts: 514	Eh yah Randi !! How do yah bring the engine closer to the tranny..I got a hoist and the engine is sitting pretty on a pallet.. Does the torque converter go first... Dang Im a rookie eh !!!! __________________ MaNu !!! '85--FJ60-L59 E-mail: viviendo.de.mar.a.cordillera@gmail.com manamana tút turút too manamana !!!!

09-18-07, 03:40 PM	#142
iaintscared1969 RT Customs Vortec Junky Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Irving, Tx. TLCA# 17528 Posts: 1,662	I always put the flywheel and convertor on first then move my tranny into place with the tranny jack. Put the engine on jack stands and block the back of the pan up level. Then lift the tranny into place.(Use the hoist and save your back) It seems easier for me that way and I don't have to mess with trying to get the three bolts in the convertor with a tranny to deal with. But you can put the convertor in the tranny then bolt the housing and then go for the convertor bolts. It's which ever way you feel it would be easier. Hope it helps. __________________ Cool place to get all the cruiser crap you could want! http://cruisercrap.com 1989 FJ 62 4" Hell Creek Suspension, Bridgestone Duellers 33X12.50, Hummer sliders modified of course, HI-Lift Jack, Pioneer Equipment Rack, HFS 2.5 Shackles, Defender Light rack, 4 KC Rally 800 series lights, All new steering components,First responder kit, and a whole lotta stickers! Member: LSLC, DFW and Austin, BSLCA

09-18-07, 04:11 PM	#143
MANUCHAO No way Eh !!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: c0vina, CA TLCA# N0PE Posts: 514	Im also looking at getting a fan for the rad.. Do any of you guys know if a LINCOLN MARK VIII ELECTRIC RADIATOR FAN would work. Will this be overkill at 4-5k CFM....... I have a new rad (aluminum) waiting to be installed... __________________ MaNu !!! '85--FJ60-L59 E-mail: viviendo.de.mar.a.cordillera@gmail.com manamana tút turút too manamana !!!!

09-18-07, 04:49 PM	#144
iaintscared1969 RT Customs Vortec Junky Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Irving, Tx. TLCA# 17528 Posts: 1,662	I think it would be overkill. You can use the Contour fan and be just fine. What size Alt. is on that engine? 105 or 130 it is stamped on the Alt. __________________ Cool place to get all the cruiser crap you could want! http://cruisercrap.com 1989 FJ 62 4" Hell Creek Suspension, Bridgestone Duellers 33X12.50, Hummer sliders modified of course, HI-Lift Jack, Pioneer Equipment Rack, HFS 2.5 Shackles, Defender Light rack, 4 KC Rally 800 series lights, All new steering components,First responder kit, and a whole lotta stickers! Member: LSLC, DFW and Austin, BSLCA

09-18-07, 05:46 PM	#145
philos1 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the valley, yeah that one Posts: 1,384	nice job Frank! __________________ 1987 fj60, stuff, and some other stuff. i call her "tootsie roll"- http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...t=tootsie+roll defender of the good, mo-fessional drunk, total art-fag, and all around nice guy...

09-18-07, 06:35 PM	#146
PAFJ IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kodiak, AK TLCA# 16335 Posts: 1,336	Damn Frank... lookin sharp! __________________ Mike S. '85 FJ60