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Old 03-20-07, 04:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Burning out Bushings

I've read several places on this forum that its easiest to remove the stock rubber bushings by burning them out with a torch. I think one I read said to get the metal glowing red.
I'm not a professional metal worker, but putting a gas torch to the metal hangers on the frame makes me wonder if that would cause the steel to loose its temper. Anybody know?
Planning on doing this soon, so just wanted to ask before I do it.

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Old 03-20-07, 04:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think its more about burning the bushing out that heating the metal, i think the metal getting hot is a side effect.

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Old 03-20-07, 04:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I just did my first leaf spring install. I too was worried about the spring pins and bushings. The shackle pins came right out, no heat applied.
The spring pins were seized to the bushings. I used a propane torch to burn the bushings. It probably took alot longer than a good torch, but it worked fine.
I applied heat for a little bit, then went to town with the 8lb sledge. It would move very little at a time. Then repeat until the pin comes out enough to get a pry bar in there and work it out. I used a pickle fork for most of it and it worked well. I spent probably 4hrs on all the spring pins and 4mins on all the shackle pins.
But the propane was enough to get them out.

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Old 03-20-07, 04:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I drilled holes in the rubber and soaked it with WD40, waited some minutes and got them out with ease and pliers.

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Old 03-20-07, 04:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for the help. I guess my worry was in weakening the steel by getting it too hot. Only needs to be about 400 degrees to temper steel.
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Old 03-20-07, 04:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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hold it close to the rubber not far back.it just concentrates the heat on the boot.

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Old 03-20-07, 05:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The "heat treat" on mild steel is no big deal..

Heat it up and let er rip..

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be careful if you have super eco-friendly neighbors. the burning rubber has a rather "fragant" smell...

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Old 03-21-07, 09:11 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Put the heat to the bushing and not on the flat part of the metal. The bushing will start burning long before you get the metal red hot. It will take a lot more heat than you will use to damage the metal

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Old 03-21-07, 03:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Screw the neighbors! Let 'er burn! (just make sure the fire doesn't spread
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Old 03-21-07, 03:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i soaked mine with "PB" (<--- some good shit for everything right there) got my propane torch and lit the bastard on fire.

I focused most of the heat on the spring its self since i wasnt gonna use it again and also that way it would hopefully melt or help beak down the bushing inside and let the pin loose. The first corner took me forever and a half the other 3 i had out in like 10min flat like it was nothing at all.

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Thanks for the info.
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Old 03-21-07, 04:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Just don't heat the spring itself. It is the only metal in the area that is actually tempered. Everything else is mild steel and has too low of a carbon content to harden effectively by heat treatment.
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