Brighter Headlights for FJ60???

nymbert · 03-11-04, 06:55 PM

Does anyone know of brighter replacement headlights for a 60? I am sure mine are working fine but am now used to the more modern, brighter lights.
Thanks

Landpimp · 03-11-04, 07:03 PM

Hella, IPF, Cibie all make a H-4 E-code headlight with a much better beam pattern. you can upgrade the bulbs from 55/60 to higher ONLY if you upgrade the wiring harness. But I bet you would be very pleased with a pair of H-4's even with 55/60watts.

I run IPF's myself in 5 Cruisers......I LOVE em.

John H

TonkaC · 03-11-04, 07:04 PM

I've got SilverStars from AutoZone on my pu, they make them in the round headlight like on my FJ and if it was my daily driver I would have to get them for it. There $20 a piece. I know APC makes some as well that are brighter than the SilverStars but not sure in the round sealed beams.

Chris

nymbert · 03-11-04, 07:08 PM

Great!! Thanks for the info

Mike S · 03-11-04, 09:49 PM

I recently replaced my stock headlights with Hella Vision Plus replacement headlights. Popped then in in 10 minutes, adjusted them, and there is a BIG improvement. These are available for about $35 each, and pump out a lot more light than the stock numbers.

Mike S

2mbb · 03-12-04, 09:05 AM

I got a set up from www.suvlights.com. The 7" headlight shell, halogen bulbs and heavy duty wiring harness. Very simple install. Now I can see at night!

Brussell · 03-12-04, 09:45 AM

http://danielsternlighting.com/

New lights with replaceable bulbs and new wires with relays

jwest · 03-12-04, 10:03 AM

I've got the e code hella's with 55/60's. I don't dispute that you need to upgrade the wiring or get a harness to up the wattage beyond 55/60. But I see from the fj60 wiring diagram that a relay system from the factory is already in place. True or False? ...so would it still be necessary to upgrade the wiring..

Mike S · 03-12-04, 02:04 PM

[quote author=jwest link=board=1;threadid=12973;start=msg120035#msg120 035 date=1079111030]
I've got the e code hella's with 55/60's. I don't dispute that you need to upgrade the wiring or get a harness to up the wattage beyond 55/60. But I see from the fj60 wiring diagram that a relay system from the factory is already in place. True or False? ...so would it still be necessary to upgrade the wiring..
[/quote]

Since I insatlled the 55/60's from Hella, I did not replace any wiring. When I put the aux. drving lights on, I will use Hellas kit with relays.

Mike S

Landpimp · 03-12-04, 04:50 PM

yes there is a relay, but the power runs back thru the switch and the wiring is undersized for much more than 55/60. WHen you upgrade the harness you run right off the battery, the switch just trips the relay, no real power goes thru it now.

[quote author=jwest link=board=1;threadid=12973;start=msg120035#msg120 035 date=1079111030]
I've got the e code hella's with 55/60's. I don't dispute that you need to upgrade the wiring or get a harness to up the wattage beyond 55/60. But I see from the fj60 wiring diagram that a relay system from the factory is already in place. True or False? ...so would it still be necessary to upgrade the wiring..
[/quote]

stinkyfj60 · 04-23-04, 02:15 PM

I am currently running 55/100w in my 60 with no upgraded wiring harness (not sure why I would need that... But I havent had any problems. Now granted, I typically only use brights in offroad situations and have never had them on for hours and hours straight. But still, no problems and I love the wide and white blast of light.

Jason

crawlin60 · 04-24-04, 02:20 AM

I've the Cibie e-code H4s with the suvlights harness and the difference is unf#%&ing-believable, to someone that toiled in the f#$%ing dark by comparison before. But then I also have since put in the Blitz240s and there is no night to speak of now....

HZJ60 Guy · 06-03-04, 09:17 AM

Im going to replace mine too. I think I'll go Hella.

TB

Doc · 06-03-04, 09:45 AM

I just bought Hella euro type headlights and the Hella FF1000 7" aux driving lights. Also bought the Hella horns... but that's a different story.

I'm looking forward to being able to see!

Fourrunner · 06-03-04, 05:26 PM

Here is where I bought my H4's. This is about the cheapest I could find. They are Hella too..

http://www.rallylights.com/hella/7in.asp

Seemed like I got them cheaper, but maybe not. Good luck...

HZJ60 Guy · 06-03-04, 05:44 PM

Army tanks for the link.

TB

Landpimp · 06-03-04, 08:51 PM

I will mention it again, the Hella's are very nice but the IPF(warning they might have changed the pattern in the last few months) with a Hella bulb is MUCH nicer, the pattern of the IPF is just better IMOP. I would like to get ahold of a set of Cibie's, had a set 15+ years ago and LOVED em

Landpimp · 06-03-04, 08:53 PM

also, for the fj60 get the SUV lights Toyota only H-4 harness. For a fj40 get the normal H-4 harness. If you use the normal in the 60 the highbeam indicator doens't work.

HZJ60 Guy · 06-03-04, 09:00 PM

You Pimpster, it's hard for me to believe that a German product (Hella) are inferior to IPF lights!~

I have IPF head lights and driving lights on my diesel samurai.

They are bright.

TB

WALoeIII · 09-22-04, 06:21 PM

Where can I get the wiring harness? I would like to get the Cibies - 7" H4 E's right?

Landpimp · 09-22-04, 06:54 PM

I have used the APC(ricer stuff) harness, but I don't see them listed anymore. you NEED the one for a Toyota only for a fj60 or the highbeem light on dash will not work. I have been looking on-line and I see no one makes the H-4 Toyota harness anymore. I paid like $30 for mine.

ARB/IPF sells one, but its like $90

Quote:

Originally Posted by WALoeIII

Where can I get the wiring harness? I would like to get the Cibies - 7" H4 E's right?

Razor · 09-22-04, 08:29 PM

I have the 920H Headlamp 7" Round IPF's with the optional C41B Whitemax H4 55/60 Blue after Burners.

Not Cheap
7"round $62 pair
Afterburners $40.00 pair
H.D. wiring harness $82.00 (don't need)

Came along with my FJ60.........awesome !! best light I have had on road less driven.

Make sure you get the Bling Bling Blue After Burners to go with em....They glow blue for 15-20 min after you shut your lights off.............these rule !

IPF uses a high pressue exotic gas mix in the bulb. This new process gives illumination equal to 80W on low beam 110W on high beam, with no added load to the factory wiring harness. The bulb has a phosphorescent ring at the base that stores light energy. When the lights are turned off, it will continue to glow for about ten minutes with enough light to find your way around in an average garage. Used with the IPF headlamp replacements, they'll make the Hella, PIAA, and every other competitor's H4s look dim.

These H-4 headlamps replace your factory headlight with a double coated lens 3/8" hardened polished glass for extreme strength against rocks and chips and against high heat situations. The lens is prism and column cut. Other H4 lights exist on the market, and we've experimented with a few different brands, the IPF lights are by far the best light pattern and chip resistant of the bunch. These are no better H4 lights than IPF.

These incredible lights turn the night into day when you are driving and provides a sharp cutoff which means these lights shine less into the eye of oncoming drivers than your factory lights, while providing a dramatic increase in nightime visibility on the highway, and off to the shoulder. The very best H4 light available.

beachedFJ62 · 09-22-04, 09:37 PM

what would be some good lights to put on my rack on my 62 and on the arb

wildman4wheeler · 09-22-04, 10:09 PM

i have some 6" explorer procomps on my brushgard and i like them alot.

dogboy2 · 09-22-04, 10:28 PM

Hella H-4's....big improvement over OEM....try them, you'll like them

-db-

Razor · 09-22-04, 10:42 PM

IPF's Mon,
900MSR 130W Max White Round: couple hundred bucks

Quote:

Originally Posted by beachedFJ62

what would be some good lights to put on my rack on my 62 and on the arb

Russ in California · 09-23-04, 12:28 PM

Exactly what part or how much of the wiring harness are we talking about replacing?
Russ

NocalFJ60 · 09-23-04, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor

I have the 920H Headlamp 7" Round IPF's with the optional C41B Whitemax H4 55/60 Blue after Burners.

Not Cheap
7"round $62 pair
Afterburners $40.00 pair
H.D. wiring harness $82.00 (don't need)

Those sound nice Razor. I looked around and want some. Where did you get your afterburners for $40 ?

Landpimp · 09-23-04, 01:26 PM

you are not replacing or cutting anything, you are bypassing the stock harness and takin power for the lights right off the batt/alt, so more volts. When instaled(and its plug and play) everythinig works like before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ in California

Exactly what part or how much of the wiring harness are we talking about replacing?
Russ

bryancald · 09-23-04, 07:38 PM

Hey beachedFJ62,

Try the Lightforce lights, Polycarbonate housings and lenses.....but for the best part, you rotate the lens body, and it changes the focus from a pencil to a wide beam!

Very high quality, but still lightweight. They also include a breather system for submersing, not good with 130W and glass lenses.

You can also get all colors for filters, including infra-red for the stealth missions!

No aff

03-11-04, 06:55 PM	#1
nymbert IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 93	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? Does anyone know of brighter replacement headlights for a 60? I am sure mine are working fine but am now used to the more modern, brighter lights. Thanks

03-11-04, 07:03 PM	#2
Landpimp IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gig Harbor WA TLCA# 5506 Posts: 11,422	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? Hella, IPF, Cibie all make a H-4 E-code headlight with a much better beam pattern. you can upgrade the bulbs from 55/60 to higher ONLY if you upgrade the wiring harness. But I bet you would be very pleased with a pair of H-4's even with 55/60watts. I run IPF's myself in 5 Cruisers......I LOVE em. John H

03-11-04, 07:04 PM	#3
TonkaC IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Watertown, NY Posts: 339	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? I've got SilverStars from AutoZone on my pu, they make them in the round headlight like on my FJ and if it was my daily driver I would have to get them for it. There $20 a piece. I know APC makes some as well that are brighter than the SilverStars but not sure in the round sealed beams. Chris

03-11-04, 07:08 PM	#4
nymbert IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 93	Re:Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? Great!! Thanks for the info

03-11-04, 09:49 PM	#5
Mike S IH8MUD Lifer - No Appeal Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,497	Re:Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? I recently replaced my stock headlights with Hella Vision Plus replacement headlights. Popped then in in 10 minutes, adjusted them, and there is a BIG improvement. These are available for about $35 each, and pump out a lot more light than the stock numbers. Mike S

03-12-04, 09:05 AM	#6
2mbb IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: WC, CA TLCA# 6404 Posts: 1,941	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? I got a set up from www.suvlights.com. The 7" headlight shell, halogen bulbs and heavy duty wiring harness. Very simple install. Now I can see at night!

03-12-04, 09:45 AM	#7
Brussell IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 53	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? http://danielsternlighting.com/ New lights with replaceable bulbs and new wires with relays

03-12-04, 10:03 AM	#8
jwest IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 681	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? I've got the e code hella's with 55/60's. I don't dispute that you need to upgrade the wiring or get a harness to up the wattage beyond 55/60. But I see from the fj60 wiring diagram that a relay system from the factory is already in place. True or False? ...so would it still be necessary to upgrade the wiring..

03-12-04, 02:04 PM	#9
Mike S IH8MUD Lifer - No Appeal Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,497	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? [quote author=jwest link=board=1;threadid=12973;start=msg120035#msg120 035 date=1079111030] I've got the e code hella's with 55/60's. I don't dispute that you need to upgrade the wiring or get a harness to up the wattage beyond 55/60. But I see from the fj60 wiring diagram that a relay system from the factory is already in place. True or False? ...so would it still be necessary to upgrade the wiring.. [/quote] Since I insatlled the 55/60's from Hella, I did not replace any wiring. When I put the aux. drving lights on, I will use Hellas kit with relays. Mike S

03-12-04, 04:50 PM	#10
Landpimp IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gig Harbor WA TLCA# 5506 Posts: 11,422	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? yes there is a relay, but the power runs back thru the switch and the wiring is undersized for much more than 55/60. WHen you upgrade the harness you run right off the battery, the switch just trips the relay, no real power goes thru it now. [quote author=jwest link=board=1;threadid=12973;start=msg120035#msg120 035 date=1079111030] I've got the e code hella's with 55/60's. I don't dispute that you need to upgrade the wiring or get a harness to up the wattage beyond 55/60. But I see from the fj60 wiring diagram that a relay system from the factory is already in place. True or False? ...so would it still be necessary to upgrade the wiring.. [/quote]

04-23-04, 02:15 PM	#11
stinkyfj60 ¡Del uno! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Beneath her feet TLCA# 3014 Posts: 1,069	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? I am currently running 55/100w in my 60 with no upgraded wiring harness (not sure why I would need that... But I havent had any problems. Now granted, I typically only use brights in offroad situations and have never had them on for hours and hours straight. But still, no problems and I love the wide and white blast of light. Jason

04-24-04, 02:20 AM	#12
crawlin60 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 135	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? I've the Cibie e-code H4s with the suvlights harness and the difference is unf#%&ing-believable, to someone that toiled in the f#$%ing dark by comparison before. But then I also have since put in the Blitz240s and there is no night to speak of now....

06-03-04, 09:17 AM	#13
HZJ60 Guy Tank Buster Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Seattle area TLCA# 13102 Posts: 2,335	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? Im going to replace mine too. I think I'll go Hella. TB

06-03-04, 09:45 AM	#14
Doc Still Lookin' Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Iowa TLCA# 17266 Posts: 4,446	Re:Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? I just bought Hella euro type headlights and the Hella FF1000 7" aux driving lights. Also bought the Hella horns... but that's a different story. I'm looking forward to being able to see!

06-03-04, 05:26 PM	#15
Fourrunner IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Rigby, ID Posts: 541	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? Here is where I bought my H4's. This is about the cheapest I could find. They are Hella too.. http://www.rallylights.com/hella/7in.asp Seemed like I got them cheaper, but maybe not. Good luck...

09-22-04, 10:09 PM	#24
wildman4wheeler IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 244	i have some 6" explorer procomps on my brushgard and i like them alot. __________________ I H8 JEEPS 1983 FJ 60 SOA underway 2003 7.3 Excursion w/4.5" Donahoe,35 toyo's JJ lawless 8s 2001 7.3 F350 4x4 quadcab 44ft. gooseneck enclosed 27ft. gooseneck deckover 20ft. tagalong enclosed 16ft. tagalong deckover

06-03-04, 05:44 PM	#16
HZJ60 Guy Tank Buster Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Seattle area TLCA# 13102 Posts: 2,335	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? Army tanks for the link. TB

06-03-04, 08:51 PM	#17
Landpimp IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gig Harbor WA TLCA# 5506 Posts: 11,422	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? I will mention it again, the Hella's are very nice but the IPF(warning they might have changed the pattern in the last few months) with a Hella bulb is MUCH nicer, the pattern of the IPF is just better IMOP. I would like to get ahold of a set of Cibie's, had a set 15+ years ago and LOVED em

06-03-04, 08:53 PM	#18
Landpimp IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gig Harbor WA TLCA# 5506 Posts: 11,422	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? also, for the fj60 get the SUV lights Toyota only H-4 harness. For a fj40 get the normal H-4 harness. If you use the normal in the 60 the highbeam indicator doens't work.

06-03-04, 09:00 PM	#19
HZJ60 Guy Tank Buster Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Seattle area TLCA# 13102 Posts: 2,335	Brighter Headlights for FJ60??? You Pimpster, it's hard for me to believe that a German product (Hella) are inferior to IPF lights!~ I have IPF head lights and driving lights on my diesel samurai. They are bright. TB

09-22-04, 06:21 PM	#20
WALoeIII IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 450	Where can I get the wiring harness? I would like to get the Cibies - 7" H4 E's right? __________________ -- Andrew Journal - FJ60 - Wheeling 84' FJ60

09-22-04, 08:29 PM	#22
Razor IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Berthoud Colorado Posts: 885	I have the 920H Headlamp 7" Round IPF's with the optional C41B Whitemax H4 55/60 Blue after Burners. Not Cheap 7"round $62 pair Afterburners $40.00 pair H.D. wiring harness $82.00 (don't need) Came along with my FJ60.........awesome !! best light I have had on road less driven. Make sure you get the Bling Bling Blue After Burners to go with em....They glow blue for 15-20 min after you shut your lights off.............these rule ! IPF uses a high pressue exotic gas mix in the bulb. This new process gives illumination equal to 80W on low beam 110W on high beam, with no added load to the factory wiring harness. The bulb has a phosphorescent ring at the base that stores light energy. When the lights are turned off, it will continue to glow for about ten minutes with enough light to find your way around in an average garage. Used with the IPF headlamp replacements, they'll make the Hella, PIAA, and every other competitor's H4s look dim. These H-4 headlamps replace your factory headlight with a double coated lens 3/8" hardened polished glass for extreme strength against rocks and chips and against high heat situations. The lens is prism and column cut. Other H4 lights exist on the market, and we've experimented with a few different brands, the IPF lights are by far the best light pattern and chip resistant of the bunch. These are no better H4 lights than IPF. These incredible lights turn the night into day when you are driving and provides a sharp cutoff which means these lights shine less into the eye of oncoming drivers than your factory lights, while providing a dramatic increase in nightime visibility on the highway, and off to the shoulder. The very best H4 light available. __________________ TLCA#12161 Since 2001 Buncha 'OL Toyota Cars & Trucks "Some very fast, some very slow" Last edited by Razor; 09-22-04 at 08:41 PM.

09-22-04, 09:37 PM	#23
beachedFJ62 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: St. Augustine, Florida Posts: 233	what would be some good lights to put on my rack on my 62 and on the arb __________________ '88 FJ62 Mostly stock for now ARB and Kaymar

09-22-04, 10:28 PM	#25
dogboy2 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Portland, OR TLCA# 14443 Posts: 966	Hella H-4's....big improvement over OEM....try them, you'll like them -db- __________________ Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. - Mark Twain - '87 FJ60: http://web.mac.com/p2larowe/iWeb/The...e/Arrival.html

09-23-04, 12:28 PM	#27
Russ in California IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Coastal Upstate California The Redwood Coast TLCA# 13306 Posts: 486	Exactly what part or how much of the wiring harness are we talking about replacing? Russ __________________ Russ in California 1993 FZJ80 not quite stock Clam Beach PICS VIDS