My bumper build - Page 2

Mountain Goat · 10-30-06, 10:50 AM

Rough total cost in materials is about $350 at present. Of course I've had to buy a bunch of tools for the build, but we all know about tools. They don't really count.

My metal purchases have been mostly of prime material at retail prices from a local metal dealer. It's really quite amazing how much a little piece of metal can cost. The one score I did get was on the main 5 x 3 tube that I used. I got that for about half since it was a remnant they had sitting around for a long time.

beatdown83fj60 · 10-30-06, 11:17 AM

That's inspiring, the man in the brown suit dropped off my welder last week, just gathering a few last tools, then materials and I will be testing out my bumper creation skills as well. That looks great, and I hear you on the $1500 bumper, ouch.

haryv · 10-30-06, 01:08 PM

I would have made the bumper supports that would be designed to split in the event of a impact. Saw this on Discovery TV where a car hit the back end of this impact trailer and it split the tubes that support the back bumper like a bannana. The idea is to abosob as much of the impact as much as possible and not have the impact be absobed by the frame of the truck pulling it. While the effectivness of this method would be substantially reduced in a build like this any design of this nature would help both the driver of the truck and the damage to his frame.

Now if a bumper is to heavy and to strong.

My brother once had a late 70s dodge pickup with a slant 6. He and a friend bolted on ship channel I beam steel onto the font of the truck. It was so heavy both of them had to heave it up onto the mounts with alot of force.
one day As I drove down I-5 in Tacoma I passed what looked like a rear end accident between a truck and a passanger car. Well it was my brothers truck. I stopped to ask him what happened and he said he rear ended that brand new convertible in stop and go traffic. His $400 dollar truck did $6,000 of damage to the convertible and he had no insurance.

The bumper was slightly bent but that was the extent of the damage. No one apeared hurt and my brother and the convertibles owners were in the back of a State trooper car giving statements.

Mountain Goat · 10-30-06, 06:26 PM

Thanks for your comments haryv.

I did consider some of your points early in the design. In the end I opted for simplicity.

I also anticipate that at some point the bumper will be supporting the weight of my truck, be it on a rock or something else. In that capacity, I want something that doesn't have any give.

2badfjs · 10-30-06, 06:50 PM

Q: I would have made the bumper supports that would be designed to split in the event of a impact. Saw this on Discovery TV where a car hit the back end of this impact trailer and it split the tubes that support the back bumper like a bannana. The idea is to abosob as much of the impact as much as possible and not have the impact be absobed by the frame of the truck pulling it. While the effectivness of this method would be substantially reduced in a build like this any design of this nature would help both the driver of the truck and the damage to his frame

can you show us a picture of this

mount

browser5031 · 11-19-06, 11:11 AM

Nice bumper. Where do you buy "Receiver Material"?

Mountain Goat · 11-29-06, 11:13 AM

Just checked this thread after a long time.

Receiver material can be bought at your local metal dealer. You just have to specify it. It looks just like 2.5 x 2.5 x .250 square tube, but it apparently doesn't have the weld in one side like normal tubes.

You pay a premium for it, but the added insurance is worth it.

Mountain Goat · 02-20-07, 12:37 AM

Time to revive this thread. I finished one of the swing-outs.

Mountain Goat · 02-20-07, 12:37 AM

One more pic.

EP60 · 02-20-07, 01:12 AM

The bumper looks great! Ever thought about making a bunch of those and selling them? I bet you could make a fortune if you have some spare time on your hands.

Mountain Goat · 02-20-07, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EP60

The bumper looks great! Ever thought about making a bunch of those and selling them? I bet you could make a fortune if you have some spare time on your hands.

Thanks for the kind words!

I've had a few requests for similar. While it might be fun, I don't have the time or the tools and space to do metal fab very efficiently. I don;t think I could really make enough per hour to make it worth while.

That being said. I'm quite proud of mine.

Dusty · 02-20-07, 03:19 PM

great bumper. those hinges are beefy.

Mountain Goat · 02-20-07, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty

great bumper. those hinges are beefy.

I gave them the 'jump on the swing-out test". They held up just fine.

AKcruiserfreak · 02-20-07, 03:36 PM

Looks very nice! You have inspired me to try out my metal fab skills.

BlueHZT60 · 03-03-07, 05:14 PM

You have to fill the gap or else rocks will bounce off the front face of the bumber and sand blast the rear of the 60. Learned the hard way.

Bob

Mountain Goat · 03-19-07, 01:54 AM

Thanks Blue. A gap filler has been in the works since the begining.

GulfShoresFJ60 · 03-20-07, 05:12 PM

Mountain Goat, What is the thickness of the main part of the bumper?

Mountain Goat · 03-21-07, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GulfShoresFJ60

Mountain Goat, What is the thickness of the main part of the bumper?

The main rectangular tube is .250". This is probably gross overkill, but that seems to be the way I do things. There is a tax in terms of weight. If you are thinking about doing the same sort of construction I would recommend .1875" (3/16).

GulfShoresFJ60 · 03-21-07, 01:28 PM

Thanks Mountain Goat. I have some 1/8" but I been thinking that is probably too thin. I'll either get some 3/16" or 1/4".

mudpaws · 03-27-07, 10:47 PM

Wicked!!! Nice bumper, I'm jealous

hks3sgte · 06-21-07, 11:46 AM

Really great work! Any overall pictures? Wider angle?

Mountain Goat · 06-23-07, 06:57 PM

Sorry I missed the previous couple of posts. I guess I didn't check this thread after my last post.

I appreciate the comments and support. It's been a great project. I've learned a lot about metal fab.

I don't have any better over-all shots, but I have a few of the jerry can carrier and completed bumper from the rear.

This officially concludes this project.

BTW - The carrier also accomodates a High-Lift jack. However someone thought that he needed mine more than I do and relieved me of it while I was camping.

Thieves suck ass.

Mountain Goat · 06-23-07, 06:58 PM

A few more for the details.

Pathfinder · 06-23-07, 07:01 PM

I like your choice of setting up two jerry cans. Very nice work!!!

InsanityIsBorn · 06-24-07, 10:25 PM

I love your design, Im thinking I might try my hand at metal fabbing, just about finished my work on half doors, so I fiure take it up a notch. Great work by the way! keep it up.

-Kiel-

ToyotaNick · 06-24-07, 10:33 PM

wow that looks awesome! im sure you have answered this question already but approximatelly how long did it take you to build all of that? im sure all of the finishing work took along time because you didnt leave any of the welds. well it looks awesome. it looks so good that if you would tell anyone that you bought it they would believe you without a doubt!

dogboy2 · 06-25-07, 01:39 AM

It's even more beautiful in person -- truely a work of fine craftmanship with a meticulous attention to detail and all from a guy who is self-taught which just makes it that much more impressive.

Can also attest to the stoutness of his build quality but that's Mountain Goat's thunder and one which I dare not steal....

-dogboy- '87 FJ60

Mountain Goat · 06-25-07, 01:03 PM

Aw, you flatter me so.

I am definitely proud of my home-built "ghetto" bumper. Many mistakes were made in building it, and much was learned. I'd say the finished product will do just fine. If I don't consider the time, I'd say I saved a couple $K compared to a Slee bumper, pimped out the way I want.

As Dogboy mentioned, the bumper earned it's keep this weekend and I'm no longer questioning my over-built approach to the project.

In answer to the previous question, I can really only guess about the number of hours into it. Total timeline, based on 'mud post dates is about nine months. Hours, maybe around 200-250.

That being said, please keep in mind that I am a very inexperience metal fabricator. Combine that with being an obsessed freak perfectionist and the hour figure makes a little more sense.

Thanks also for noticing the finish work. I spent a considerable amount of time grinding welds.

I sincerely appreciate all of the support and encouragement from the 'mud community. I hope that through sharing projects like this that I can give something back.

Sarcastro · 06-25-07, 04:33 PM

Mountain I am under the assumption that you used stick welding for all of this? what did you use to cut your .25 inch?

as a winter project I am going to copy a few of your design features, namely the .25 inch "wings" covering the rear corners and the overall shape, however in my design I think I might tuck the bumper a little closer to the body...

it really looks good... how expensive was the 12ht swap?

Mountain Goat · 06-25-07, 08:03 PM

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10-30-06, 10:50 AM	#31
Mountain Goat Maximum Yakpower Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 446	Rough total cost in materials is about $350 at present. Of course I've had to buy a bunch of tools for the build, but we all know about tools. They don't really count. My metal purchases have been mostly of prime material at retail prices from a local metal dealer. It's really quite amazing how much a little piece of metal can cost. The one score I did get was on the main 5 x 3 tube that I used. I got that for about half since it was a remnant they had sitting around for a long time. __________________ Six Sigma Black Belt in Douchebaggery Turbo Yak - 1987 F(H)J-60 12H-T, H55F, 32 x 11.5 BFG, home-built stuff, Aussie stuff, JDM stuff. Bio powered.

10-30-06, 11:17 AM	#32
beatdown83fj60 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Evergreen, Colorado TLCA# Don't have one yet, but Rising Sun CO will be my domain Posts: 614	That's inspiring, the man in the brown suit dropped off my welder last week, just gathering a few last tools, then materials and I will be testing out my bumper creation skills as well. That looks great, and I hear you on the $1500 bumper, ouch. __________________ 86 4Runner, stock, and clean......for now

10-30-06, 01:08 PM	#33
haryv IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 389	Great build but I would have done this. I would have made the bumper supports that would be designed to split in the event of a impact. Saw this on Discovery TV where a car hit the back end of this impact trailer and it split the tubes that support the back bumper like a bannana. The idea is to abosob as much of the impact as much as possible and not have the impact be absobed by the frame of the truck pulling it. While the effectivness of this method would be substantially reduced in a build like this any design of this nature would help both the driver of the truck and the damage to his frame. Now if a bumper is to heavy and to strong. My brother once had a late 70s dodge pickup with a slant 6. He and a friend bolted on ship channel I beam steel onto the font of the truck. It was so heavy both of them had to heave it up onto the mounts with alot of force. one day As I drove down I-5 in Tacoma I passed what looked like a rear end accident between a truck and a passanger car. Well it was my brothers truck. I stopped to ask him what happened and he said he rear ended that brand new convertible in stop and go traffic. His $400 dollar truck did $6,000 of damage to the convertible and he had no insurance. The bumper was slightly bent but that was the extent of the damage. No one apeared hurt and my brother and the convertibles owners were in the back of a State trooper car giving statements.

10-30-06, 06:26 PM	#34
Mountain Goat Maximum Yakpower Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 446	Thanks for your comments haryv. I did consider some of your points early in the design. In the end I opted for simplicity. I also anticipate that at some point the bumper will be supporting the weight of my truck, be it on a rock or something else. In that capacity, I want something that doesn't have any give. __________________ Six Sigma Black Belt in Douchebaggery Turbo Yak - 1987 F(H)J-60 12H-T, H55F, 32 x 11.5 BFG, home-built stuff, Aussie stuff, JDM stuff. Bio powered.

10-30-06, 06:50 PM	#35
2badfjs 80s muncher Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: HIDING!! Posts: 5,081	Q: I would have made the bumper supports that would be designed to split in the event of a impact. Saw this on Discovery TV where a car hit the back end of this impact trailer and it split the tubes that support the back bumper like a bannana. The idea is to abosob as much of the impact as much as possible and not have the impact be absobed by the frame of the truck pulling it. While the effectivness of this method would be substantially reduced in a build like this any design of this nature would help both the driver of the truck and the damage to his frame can you show us a picture of this mount __________________ SOLID ROCK OFF-ROAD http://www.solidrockoff-road.com/ 1991-92 80 series sliders available, WITH CAT PROTECTION! It's how YOU want it, i'm just here to build it for you. SLIDERS FOR 40s' 60s' and 80s' plus a little bit more

11-19-06, 11:11 AM	#36
browser5031 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seattle,WA Posts: 84	Nice bumper. Where do you buy "Receiver Material"?

11-29-06, 11:13 AM	#37
Mountain Goat Maximum Yakpower Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 446	Just checked this thread after a long time. Receiver material can be bought at your local metal dealer. You just have to specify it. It looks just like 2.5 x 2.5 x .250 square tube, but it apparently doesn't have the weld in one side like normal tubes. You pay a premium for it, but the added insurance is worth it. __________________ Six Sigma Black Belt in Douchebaggery Turbo Yak - 1987 F(H)J-60 12H-T, H55F, 32 x 11.5 BFG, home-built stuff, Aussie stuff, JDM stuff. Bio powered.

02-20-07, 12:37 AM	#38
Mountain Goat Maximum Yakpower Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 446	Time to revive this thread. I finished one of the swing-outs. Attached Images __________________ Six Sigma Black Belt in Douchebaggery Turbo Yak - 1987 F(H)J-60 12H-T, H55F, 32 x 11.5 BFG, home-built stuff, Aussie stuff, JDM stuff. Bio powered.

02-20-07, 12:37 AM	#39
Mountain Goat Maximum Yakpower Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 446	One more pic. Attached Images __________________ Six Sigma Black Belt in Douchebaggery Turbo Yak - 1987 F(H)J-60 12H-T, H55F, 32 x 11.5 BFG, home-built stuff, Aussie stuff, JDM stuff. Bio powered.

02-20-07, 01:12 AM	#40
EP60 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 124	The bumper looks great! Ever thought about making a bunch of those and selling them? I bet you could make a fortune if you have some spare time on your hands. __________________ 1987 FJ60 - 145,000 miles -

02-20-07, 03:19 PM	#42
Dusty IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,575	great bumper. those hinges are beefy. __________________ 97lx450 4" slee/j's, sliders, bumpers, 3" exhaust, custom turbo, HG pm/Valve job/seals, sweet custom skid plate, Sleeoffroad parts, Buys oe parts from Cruiser Dan used to have 37" swampers.. 1 tons and 42's pending..... Budget Blown my build http://forum.ih8mud.com/hardcore-cor...j80-build.html 98 100 series. rear locker. 2008 6.7L dodge 2500 quad cab

02-20-07, 03:36 PM	#44
AKcruiserfreak IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North Pole, Ak Posts: 674	Looks very nice! You have inspired me to try out my metal fab skills. __________________ 1971 FJ-40 2" shackle lift, 33" BFG,PTO winch, lots o' miles, con fer roof rack, safety yellow, weber 38dgas, Downey header. 1993 FZJ-80 114k, new ecu, ARB/Warn12k, Wild Country TXR 285's,Astrostart autostart, OME850J+1" Slee spacers,OME863 rear, Blue hub, 67" sliders.

03-03-07, 05:14 PM	#45
BlueHZT60 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SW OR TLCA# Yep Posts: 255	You have to fill the gap or else rocks will bounce off the front face of the bumber and sand blast the rear of the 60. Learned the hard way. Bob

03-19-07, 01:54 AM	#46
Mountain Goat Maximum Yakpower Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 446	Thanks Blue. A gap filler has been in the works since the begining. Attached Images __________________ Six Sigma Black Belt in Douchebaggery Turbo Yak - 1987 F(H)J-60 12H-T, H55F, 32 x 11.5 BFG, home-built stuff, Aussie stuff, JDM stuff. Bio powered.

03-20-07, 05:12 PM	#47
GulfShoresFJ60 War Eagle Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gulf Shores & Auburn, AL TLCA# 15437 Posts: 676	Mountain Goat, What is the thickness of the main part of the bumper? __________________ Caleb - Auburn University 1984 FJ60 - Restomod - 2F - H55F - 4.7:1 Toybox - ARB Front - Full-Floater w/Aussie Rear - Custom Rear Bumper - ARB Front Bumper w/Warn M8274 - 37 MTRs - Vinyl Floor 1983 FJ60 - Parts Rig 1966 Mustang Coupe - 289 w/ C4 My Site

03-21-07, 01:28 PM	#49
GulfShoresFJ60 War Eagle Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gulf Shores & Auburn, AL TLCA# 15437 Posts: 676	Thanks Mountain Goat. I have some 1/8" but I been thinking that is probably too thin. I'll either get some 3/16" or 1/4". __________________ Caleb - Auburn University 1984 FJ60 - Restomod - 2F - H55F - 4.7:1 Toybox - ARB Front - Full-Floater w/Aussie Rear - Custom Rear Bumper - ARB Front Bumper w/Warn M8274 - 37 MTRs - Vinyl Floor 1983 FJ60 - Parts Rig 1966 Mustang Coupe - 289 w/ C4 My Site

03-27-07, 10:47 PM	#50
mudpaws IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Long Island, NY TLCA# 3123 Posts: 113	Wicked!!! Nice bumper, I'm jealous __________________ Ralph Long Island, NY 1975 FJ40 1986 FJ60 stock

06-21-07, 11:46 AM	#51
hks3sgte IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Ángeles, CA. Posts: 1,914	Really great work! Any overall pictures? Wider angle?

06-23-07, 06:57 PM	#52
Mountain Goat Maximum Yakpower Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 446	Finally finished Sorry I missed the previous couple of posts. I guess I didn't check this thread after my last post. I appreciate the comments and support. It's been a great project. I've learned a lot about metal fab. I don't have any better over-all shots, but I have a few of the jerry can carrier and completed bumper from the rear. This officially concludes this project. BTW - The carrier also accomodates a High-Lift jack. However someone thought that he needed mine more than I do and relieved me of it while I was camping. Thieves suck ass. Attached Images __________________ Six Sigma Black Belt in Douchebaggery Turbo Yak - 1987 F(H)J-60 12H-T, H55F, 32 x 11.5 BFG, home-built stuff, Aussie stuff, JDM stuff. Bio powered. Last edited by Mountain Goat; 06-23-07 at 07:03 PM.

06-23-07, 06:58 PM	#53
Mountain Goat Maximum Yakpower Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 446	A few more for the details. Attached Images __________________ Six Sigma Black Belt in Douchebaggery Turbo Yak - 1987 F(H)J-60 12H-T, H55F, 32 x 11.5 BFG, home-built stuff, Aussie stuff, JDM stuff. Bio powered.

06-23-07, 07:01 PM	#54
Pathfinder IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ormond Beach, FL TLCA# 16560 Posts: 415	I like your choice of setting up two jerry cans. Very nice work!!! __________________ -SOLD- '84 - FJ60 188,XXX miles no cruiser now

06-24-07, 10:25 PM	#55
InsanityIsBorn IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Gunnison, CO // Highlands Ranch, CO. Posts: 316	I love your design, Im thinking I might try my hand at metal fabbing, just about finished my work on half doors, so I fiure take it up a notch. Great work by the way! keep it up. -Kiel- __________________ 1988 FJ62. Half doors! No sway bars! Confer Roof Rack! 31in BFG ATs! Summer Plans: SOA with 35s. 1951 Chevy 3100 pickup! [noparse][/noparse] :flamingo:

06-24-07, 10:33 PM	#56
ToyotaNick IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lafayette, LA Posts: 314	wow that looks awesome! im sure you have answered this question already but approximatelly how long did it take you to build all of that? im sure all of the finishing work took along time because you didnt leave any of the welds. well it looks awesome. it looks so good that if you would tell anyone that you bought it they would believe you without a doubt!

06-25-07, 01:39 AM	#57
dogboy2 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Portland, OR TLCA# 14443 Posts: 966	It's even more beautiful in person -- truely a work of fine craftmanship with a meticulous attention to detail and all from a guy who is self-taught which just makes it that much more impressive. Can also attest to the stoutness of his build quality but that's Mountain Goat's thunder and one which I dare not steal.... -dogboy- '87 FJ60 __________________ Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. - Mark Twain - '87 FJ60: http://web.mac.com/p2larowe/iWeb/The...e/Arrival.html

06-25-07, 01:03 PM	#58
Mountain Goat Maximum Yakpower Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 446	Aw, you flatter me so. I am definitely proud of my home-built "ghetto" bumper. Many mistakes were made in building it, and much was learned. I'd say the finished product will do just fine. If I don't consider the time, I'd say I saved a couple $K compared to a Slee bumper, pimped out the way I want. As Dogboy mentioned, the bumper earned it's keep this weekend and I'm no longer questioning my over-built approach to the project. In answer to the previous question, I can really only guess about the number of hours into it. Total timeline, based on 'mud post dates is about nine months. Hours, maybe around 200-250. That being said, please keep in mind that I am a very inexperience metal fabricator. Combine that with being an obsessed freak perfectionist and the hour figure makes a little more sense. Thanks also for noticing the finish work. I spent a considerable amount of time grinding welds. I sincerely appreciate all of the support and encouragement from the 'mud community. I hope that through sharing projects like this that I can give something back. __________________ Six Sigma Black Belt in Douchebaggery Turbo Yak - 1987 F(H)J-60 12H-T, H55F, 32 x 11.5 BFG, home-built stuff, Aussie stuff, JDM stuff. Bio powered.

06-25-07, 04:33 PM	#59
Sarcastro IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: N42.25492 , W-121.78743 Posts: 244	Mountain I am under the assumption that you used stick welding for all of this? what did you use to cut your .25 inch? as a winter project I am going to copy a few of your design features, namely the .25 inch "wings" covering the rear corners and the overall shape, however in my design I think I might tuck the bumper a little closer to the body... it really looks good... how expensive was the 12ht swap? __________________ "shun the non believer!!" '82 FJ60 Making Bumpers, Roof Rax and other stuff... all custom no store bought mods... just blood sweat and gears!