Reading 3FE engine codes at home

euclid · 10-18-06, 08:40 AM

I couldn't find this on Mud. Thanks to Aaron (Mr 2FE), he put this together some time back. I have had several questions about reading the check engine light on a 3FE lately, so here it is. I'll be adding it to the FAQ.

Get a Haynes, Chilton’s, or a Factory Service Manual (FSM)
For the FSM call Toyota Publications @ (800) 622-2033

How do you retrieve the codes?

It’s easier than you think. Follow the following steps to find out how your engine is running.

Initial Conditions:
- Battery voltage 11 volts or more
- Throttle valve fully closed (TPS IDL points closed)
- Transmission in neutral
- Accessories switched “OFF”
- Engine at normal operating temperature
Turn the ignition switch “ON”. DO NOT START ENGINE
Using a jumper wire, connect terminals TE1 and E1 of the check connector.
Read the diagnostic code as indicated by the number of flashes of the “Check Engine” warning light.

There will be a series of flashes. For example, if your ECU showed an error code 13 you would see one flash a pause and then three more flashes. Then a pause of 2.5 seconds and you would see the single flash again then a short pause then the three flashes again. Have a pen a paper ready to write when the light starts to flash.

The codes are in your manual.

tonkota · 10-18-06, 12:34 PM

I should probly put the pictures up there huh? I'll get those tonight for everyone. Sorry.

theside00 · 10-18-06, 01:29 PM

Pictures of were the jump wire goes would be the best so I know exaclty were to put it. I need to do this and figure out why my light is on and get it fixed

tonkota · 10-18-06, 01:42 PM

I'll take a picture of the wire in the connections. It's really easy to do. Make a short wire with some spade connectors.

import silvia · 10-18-06, 05:23 PM

a bent paper clip will also work.

Mark W · 10-18-06, 08:05 PM

This is really about as simple a process as you can find. Jump Te1 and E1. They're labeled. Trust me, pictures really aren't necessary.

Mark...

JBBenson · 10-18-06, 08:07 PM

Are the codes the end word in diagnosis? I mean, are they always right?

notagp_afj55 · 10-18-06, 08:14 PM

I found the pictures and the whole works
and descriptions on birfield.com it is really
easy to do. It is all spelled out for you there

Mark W · 10-18-06, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBBenson

Are the codes the end word in diagnosis? I mean, are they always right?

They're always right. But they are not the sort of thing that lets you fix an exact problem after seeing a code. More like very helpful hints to know where to start, or know that youc an rule something out.

SOmetimes the code will tell you of a problem you didn't even know existed.

In some cases the code will tell you exactly which part needs to be replaced, or which circuit has failed. But don't assume it will be that simple.

Mark...

theside00 · 10-18-06, 11:38 PM

Were at on birfield was looking on there I couldnt find it. I must not be as good of a searcher as you. I am a member to so that shouldnt be a reason. I am still looking though.

theside00 · 10-18-06, 11:51 PM

Never mind on that one I think I figured it out. How can you tell if there is more then one code tripped. Will it just go right on to the next number after it is done with the first one? There could be multiple ones wrong with mine, I sure hope not though.

Mark W · 10-19-06, 12:17 AM

The first code will flash first. Then a pause and the second will start. It will cycle through all the codes and then start over.

Mark...

Advent · 10-19-06, 08:38 AM

Why not wire a toggle switch into the circuit?

That'd sure simplify things long term.

euclid · 10-19-06, 08:59 AM

No, that would complicate the already very simple.

This is the easiest thing to do, ever. If you can fill your gas tank you can read the codes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advent

Why not wire a toggle switch into the circuit?

That'd sure simplify things long term.

Advent · 10-19-06, 09:46 AM

If you swapped a 3FE (or 2FE) into something else, the plug might not be anywhere near the check engine light. By wiring a simple toggle into the circuit, you could just flick a switch and read the codes.

Even on a '62, it'd be easy to do. Splice into the wires before the plug.

Mark W · 10-19-06, 11:58 AM

The plug is nowhere near the check engine light anyway.

It is under the hood one the passenger side of the firewall.

A switch would not be a bad idea. But at the same time it is not something you need to do often, and as mentioned it is pretty simple, so...

Mark...

tonkota · 10-19-06, 02:44 PM

Now the picture is up there.

Link: TE1 & E1

Picture:

And also with the wire in:
With Wire

theside00 · 10-19-06, 05:11 PM

The thing lit up like a christmas tree. There are three codes that were tripped 25, 26, and 28. Anybody have any good suggestions on how to fix these. I am not thinking it is as easy as replacing the oxygen sensor but I hope it is.

theside00 · 10-19-06, 06:14 PM

I am getting this thing figured out. There was a ground that was tucked away under the intake so I bolted up and it got rid of those. Now it is just code 28. Would that be the cat or the oxygen sensor.

theside00 · 10-19-06, 06:30 PM

Correction the hole is after the cats and right before the connection that goes to the muffler. I am thinking I need to fix the hole for everything to be cleared.

theside00 · 10-19-06, 06:31 PM

TonKota were do wheel around spokane maybe we can hook up for a trail run or something. I am down here in moscow for school.

tonkota · 10-19-06, 10:02 PM

When I get the Pig running I can go wheel then, but I need the 62 to stay clean since I rely on it. Vandal huh? I go to school at EWU. If you are up this way let me know and we can get together.

Mark W · 10-19-06, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theside00

Correction the hole is after the cats and right before the connection that goes to the muffler. I am thinking I need to fix the hole for everything to be cleared.

Nope. nothing after the O2 sensor matters. Well, assuming that the cat is not clogged anyway. But holes after the cat never matter.

Mark...

tonkota · 10-19-06, 10:21 PM

you said but holes! he he he!

oh, and I don't know if you saw this:
http://www.steelnthings.com/3fetrouble.htm

theside00 · 10-19-06, 10:50 PM

We dont have to go that hard wheeling since mine is my DD also and the only way I can get home. I did mine in park and it seemed to work but I will try it in neutral and see if it is different. And I am thinking that I need some new O2 sensors (that is going to hurt the old wallet).

10-18-06, 08:40 AM	#1
euclid IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jackson, MS TLCA# 13014 Posts: 2,966	Reading 3FE engine codes at home I couldn't find this on Mud. Thanks to Aaron (Mr 2FE), he put this together some time back. I have had several questions about reading the check engine light on a 3FE lately, so here it is. I'll be adding it to the FAQ. Get a Haynes, Chilton’s, or a Factory Service Manual (FSM) For the FSM call Toyota Publications @ (800) 622-2033 How do you retrieve the codes? It’s easier than you think. Follow the following steps to find out how your engine is running. Initial Conditions: Battery voltage 11 volts or more Throttle valve fully closed (TPS IDL points closed) Transmission in neutral Accessories switched “OFF” Engine at normal operating temperature Turn the ignition switch “ON”. DO NOT START ENGINE Using a jumper wire, connect terminals TE1 and E1 of the check connector. Read the diagnostic code as indicated by the number of flashes of the “Check Engine” warning light. There will be a series of flashes. For example, if your ECU showed an error code 13 you would see one flash a pause and then three more flashes. Then a pause of 2.5 seconds and you would see the single flash again then a short pause then the three flashes again. Have a pen a paper ready to write when the light starts to flash. The codes are in your manual. __________________ Greg Thompson CottonLand Cruisers 00 Camry: Stock 5SFE - 27 MPG 89 FJ62: OME 2.5, 2" BL, Superior shackles, F250 towers, 315 BFG KM2's on zj80 wheels, Extreme A440, FF,4:88,RDB,longs,ARB front,Lockright rear,Warn XD9K in Rover AL bumper, Kaymar, Wildernes Roofrack, Marlin Sliders, SROR 1/4 sliders. Last edited by euclid; 10-18-06 at 08:58 AM.

10-18-06, 12:34 PM	#2
tonkota IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Spokane, WA TLCA# 14154 Posts: 1,257 Blog Entries: 4	I should probly put the pictures up there huh? I'll get those tonight for everyone. Sorry. __________________ A Ron Using one cruiser to go mountain biking, and the other to collect dust. 2F-E Article McNamara gear writeup

10-18-06, 01:42 PM	#4
tonkota IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Spokane, WA TLCA# 14154 Posts: 1,257 Blog Entries: 4	I'll take a picture of the wire in the connections. It's really easy to do. Make a short wire with some spade connectors. __________________ A Ron Using one cruiser to go mountain biking, and the other to collect dust. 2F-E Article McNamara gear writeup

10-18-06, 08:14 PM	#8
notagp_afj55 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Portland Oregon TLCA# wgaf Posts: 858	I found the pictures and the whole works and descriptions on birfield.com it is really easy to do. It is all spelled out for you there __________________ 10/85 FJ-60 new legs coming "The beatings will continue until the morale improves"

10-19-06, 08:38 AM	#13
Advent IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Juneau, Ak; Fairbanks, AK TLCA# 12717 Posts: 546	Why not wire a toggle switch into the circuit? That'd sure simplify things long term. __________________ '76 FJ40, "GIR". A bigger money pit than my tuition!

10-18-06, 01:29 PM	#3
theside00 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA Posts: 611	Pictures of were the jump wire goes would be the best so I know exaclty were to put it. I need to do this and figure out why my light is on and get it fixed

10-18-06, 05:23 PM	#5
import silvia IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tucson Posts: 431	a bent paper clip will also work.

10-18-06, 08:05 PM	#6
Mark W IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Greatland TLCA# 6303 Posts: 3,525	This is really about as simple a process as you can find. Jump Te1 and E1. They're labeled. Trust me, pictures really aren't necessary. Mark...

10-18-06, 08:07 PM	#7
JBBenson IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 178	Are the codes the end word in diagnosis? I mean, are they always right?

10-18-06, 11:38 PM	#10
theside00 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA Posts: 611	Were at on birfield was looking on there I couldnt find it. I must not be as good of a searcher as you. I am a member to so that shouldnt be a reason. I am still looking though.

10-18-06, 11:51 PM	#11
theside00 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA Posts: 611	Never mind on that one I think I figured it out. How can you tell if there is more then one code tripped. Will it just go right on to the next number after it is done with the first one? There could be multiple ones wrong with mine, I sure hope not though.

10-19-06, 12:17 AM	#12
Mark W IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Greatland TLCA# 6303 Posts: 3,525	The first code will flash first. Then a pause and the second will start. It will cycle through all the codes and then start over. Mark...

10-19-06, 09:46 AM	#15
Advent IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Juneau, Ak; Fairbanks, AK TLCA# 12717 Posts: 546	If you swapped a 3FE (or 2FE) into something else, the plug might not be anywhere near the check engine light. By wiring a simple toggle into the circuit, you could just flick a switch and read the codes. Even on a '62, it'd be easy to do. Splice into the wires before the plug. __________________ '76 FJ40, "GIR". A bigger money pit than my tuition!

10-19-06, 11:58 AM	#16
Mark W IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Greatland TLCA# 6303 Posts: 3,525	The plug is nowhere near the check engine light anyway. It is under the hood one the passenger side of the firewall. A switch would not be a bad idea. But at the same time it is not something you need to do often, and as mentioned it is pretty simple, so... Mark...

10-19-06, 02:44 PM	#17
tonkota IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Spokane, WA TLCA# 14154 Posts: 1,257 Blog Entries: 4	Pictures are Up Now the picture is up there. Link: TE1 & E1 Picture: And also with the wire in: With Wire __________________ A Ron Using one cruiser to go mountain biking, and the other to collect dust. 2F-E Article McNamara gear writeup Last edited by tonkota; 10-19-06 at 02:51 PM. Reason: Added picture

10-19-06, 05:11 PM	#18
theside00 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA Posts: 611	The thing lit up like a christmas tree. There are three codes that were tripped 25, 26, and 28. Anybody have any good suggestions on how to fix these. I am not thinking it is as easy as replacing the oxygen sensor but I hope it is.

10-19-06, 06:14 PM	#19
theside00 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA Posts: 611	I am getting this thing figured out. There was a ground that was tucked away under the intake so I bolted up and it got rid of those. Now it is just code 28. Would that be the cat or the oxygen sensor.

10-19-06, 06:30 PM	#20
theside00 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA Posts: 611	Correction the hole is after the cats and right before the connection that goes to the muffler. I am thinking I need to fix the hole for everything to be cleared.

10-19-06, 06:31 PM	#21
theside00 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA Posts: 611	TonKota were do wheel around spokane maybe we can hook up for a trail run or something. I am down here in moscow for school.

10-19-06, 10:02 PM	#22
tonkota IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Spokane, WA TLCA# 14154 Posts: 1,257 Blog Entries: 4	When I get the Pig running I can go wheel then, but I need the 62 to stay clean since I rely on it. Vandal huh? I go to school at EWU. If you are up this way let me know and we can get together. __________________ A Ron Using one cruiser to go mountain biking, and the other to collect dust. 2F-E Article McNamara gear writeup

10-19-06, 10:21 PM	#24
tonkota IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Spokane, WA TLCA# 14154 Posts: 1,257 Blog Entries: 4	you said but holes! he he he! oh, and I don't know if you saw this: http://www.steelnthings.com/3fetrouble.htm __________________ A Ron Using one cruiser to go mountain biking, and the other to collect dust. 2F-E Article McNamara gear writeup

10-19-06, 10:50 PM	#25
theside00 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA Posts: 611	We dont have to go that hard wheeling since mine is my DD also and the only way I can get home. I did mine in park and it seemed to work but I will try it in neutral and see if it is different. And I am thinking that I need some new O2 sensors (that is going to hurt the old wallet).

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