FJ-62 T-case actuator solenoids

Moody · 08-19-06, 03:39 PM

I was always able to disengage my 4wd with a little pop of the vacumn lines. It will not do so now. Anyone ever replaced theirs...??? Is there a cheaper alternative than dealer? Thanks.

agent orange · 08-19-06, 07:53 PM

Do a search for mac valves, thats the option i went with. It gets away from the failure prone toyota solenoids all together.

Others have found junkyard parts that interchange, i think the a/c idle up solenoid from some cars works, again search and ye shall find.

Matt

overhanger · 08-19-06, 11:15 PM

http://tinyurl.com/r3yz2
It works. Fits stock bracket. Snip stock connector, crimp on two female spade lugs and be done with it.

Spook50 · 08-19-06, 11:57 PM

I went with probably the most reliable option you can go (same principle as the Mac Valves method, but I took it two steps further and made it look factory), but it's quite a bit of work, and my lazy ass STILL hasn't gotten the rest of the pics I need to finish the writeup I was going to post several months ago

I posted a thread about it a while back with a couple pics of the finished product, and one day here I'll get the damn writeup finished.

Ironic I did that much work and now I'm planning to install an FJ60 tcase so I can have fully mechanical shifting

Edit: Here's a thread with a bit of info on what I did and what I used. I'll try to get that writeup done and posted ASAP.
http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/73913-manual-valve-vacuum-shift-conversion.html

Moody · 08-20-06, 12:42 AM

The tiny url isn't working...I am really up for anything

Moody · 08-20-06, 09:26 AM

Thanks for the info. Overhanger, I am interested to find out what you used...

Moody · 08-22-06, 04:10 PM

mas

erfworm · 08-22-06, 04:49 PM

Junkyard source a late 80's toyota 4wd van, uses the same type of set up. Although they are larger than the stock ones (won't fit in bracket) their electrical connetions are the same so no messing with wiring.

overhanger · 08-22-06, 06:12 PM

from a 90-1 Celica for the AC idle up, list price is $17.60 part # is 88690
2B340

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moody

mas

Moody · 08-22-06, 09:38 PM

Thanks a bunch Steve...

Moody · 08-23-06, 08:13 PM

Ordered the parts up today. Overhanger- do you have a pic of the final product? Maybe I could take a few pics for the FAQ section???

overhanger · 08-24-06, 09:07 AM

I'll take one or two this afternoon and post them up. It's so easy to do the install it hurts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moody

Ordered the parts up today. Overhanger- do you have a pic of the final product? Maybe I could take a few pics for the FAQ section???

euclid · 08-24-06, 12:28 PM

Thanks Steve for the input.

Added to FAQ.

BillWms01 · 08-24-06, 01:08 PM

Excuse my 62 ignorance, but is this solenoid usually the cause for the 4WD to not engage? My son & I got a neglected 62 last week and discovered the transfer case won't disengage.

overhanger · 08-24-06, 03:28 PM

There are two solenoids used in the FJ62 T/case shifting system - one to engage and one to disengage. The disengage is on whenever you are in 2WD so it is the one that gives up the ghost first. Swap the vacuum hoses between the two solenoids for the time being to get back to 2WD. You'll have to push the 4WD button to disengage the front drive when the hoses are reversed.

overhanger · 08-24-06, 06:04 PM

Here ya go. I don't understand why some have a problem with "messing with the wiring harness" when all you have to do is crimp on two new spade lugs. For around $20, to have a Toyota part doing what it is designed to do is worth it. Mac valves? Who needs them is my thinking.

euclid · 08-24-06, 06:46 PM

bravo. Done and done.

agent orange · 08-24-06, 08:17 PM

The reason i went with the MAC valves is that its barely any more expensive (cost me $35 for 2 valves, fittings, and mufflers) and i was hoping to find an alternative that would last longer than the yota valves. If the toyota valves were all that great there wouldnt be umpteen threads about replacing them on this board.

RredFJ40 · 08-24-06, 08:27 PM

Ditto this. Big price difference from what my dealer wanted for the stock part ($412!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by overhanger

from a 90-1 Celica for the AC idle up, list price is $17.60 part # is 88690
2B340

overhanger · 08-24-06, 09:30 PM

I look forward to hearing back from you in 18 years or so how your Mac valves are holding up. In the meantime, a stock Toyota part that uses stock bracketry, hoses and requires minimum wiring rework that costs less than $20 and can be purchased at every Toyota dealers on the planet, is my choice of fix. The first one lasted 18 years or about $1 per year. I wish it lasted forever but hey....

QUOTE=agent orange]The reason i went with the MAC valves is that its barely any more expensive (cost me $35 for 2 valves, fittings, and mufflers) and i was hoping to find an alternative that would last longer than the yota valves. If the toyota valves were all that great there wouldnt be umpteen threads about replacing them on this board.[/quote]

Moody · 08-24-06, 10:02 PM

Killer. Thanks a bunch. Looks pretty straightforward. I think my local dealer told me 430 for the new solenoids. I should have them tomorrow, and I will put them in Sat. AM and let you know how it turns out.

RredFJ40 · 08-24-06, 10:44 PM

ridiculous how the virtually identical part can have such a discrepancy in price all because it says "Land Cruiser" I say we sack and pillage American Toyota and take CDan as a ransom hostage!

Moody · 08-27-06, 02:07 PM

Didn't get them in at the dealer...Should have them tomorrow night. I will post up pics. One question: Should I do both? I ordered two, but I have a feeling it is only the lower one???

hightide · 08-27-06, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by overhanger
from a 90-1 Celica for the AC idle up, list price is $17.60 part # is 88690
2B340

Is it the same part number for both valves? I dont know wich one is the "bad" one so might as well replace both.

Moody · 09-01-06, 06:52 AM

I am actually going to do this tonight after work. I will post up pics of the final product. Boy, 430 for new parts, or 20 bucks for the other Toy part, which does the same thing...wow.

Moody · 09-01-06, 05:46 PM

Done. Almost pissed me off it was so easy. 430 for the dealer assembly, 22 for the other part. Crazily rediculous. Overhanger, you are my hero.

hightide · 09-04-06, 09:06 AM

Did you replace both valves with the same part number?

overhanger · 09-04-06, 11:59 AM

I "think" so. The lower one on the firewall is the disengage solenoid and the one that goes bad since it is almost always on. Start with that one - I'd bet the upper one is just fine and will be for as long as you have the Cruiser.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hightide

Originally Posted by overhanger
from a 90-1 Celica for the AC idle up, list price is $17.60 part # is 88690
2B340

Is it the same part number for both valves? I dont know wich one is the "bad" one so might as well replace both.

Moody · 09-04-06, 03:01 PM

I only replaced the bottom one. I ordered 2, but they only ordered 1 for some reason. Works like a charm. I will

08-19-06, 03:39 PM	#1
Moody IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC, UT TLCA# 15879 Posts: 527	FJ-62 T-case actuator solenoids I was always able to disengage my 4wd with a little pop of the vacumn lines. It will not do so now. Anyone ever replaced theirs...??? Is there a cheaper alternative than dealer? Thanks. __________________ 1988 FJ-62 (Sold ) 1997 LX 450, big time beater...with some off road junk bolted on

08-19-06, 07:53 PM	#2
agent orange IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Richmond, VA TLCA# 16545 Posts: 2,069	Do a search for mac valves, thats the option i went with. It gets away from the failure prone toyota solenoids all together. Others have found junkyard parts that interchange, i think the a/c idle up solenoid from some cars works, again search and ye shall find. Matt __________________ 1988 FJ 62- SUA, 1" body, 34" trxus mudders, 2.5" exhaust, 27spl Longs/Pig Inners, 4.88s, torsen LSD/lockright, 4runner brakes, other random stuff... 1986 pickup- 2wd, 22r, 4 speed, DD oh, and custom tree damage

08-19-06, 11:15 PM	#3
overhanger IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 TLCA# 10222 Posts: 659	http://tinyurl.com/r3yz2 It works. Fits stock bracket. Snip stock connector, crimp on two female spade lugs and be done with it. __________________ Steve Crase TLCA 10222 1988 FJ62 - Bart 1997 FZJ80 40th Anniversary #3727 - Sandy

08-19-06, 11:57 PM	#4
Spook50 sp0rk sp0rk sp0rk! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,467 Blog Entries: 2	I went with probably the most reliable option you can go (same principle as the Mac Valves method, but I took it two steps further and made it look factory), but it's quite a bit of work, and my lazy ass STILL hasn't gotten the rest of the pics I need to finish the writeup I was going to post several months ago I posted a thread about it a while back with a couple pics of the finished product, and one day here I'll get the damn writeup finished. Ironic I did that much work and now I'm planning to install an FJ60 tcase so I can have fully mechanical shifting Edit: Here's a thread with a bit of info on what I did and what I used. I'll try to get that writeup done and posted ASAP. http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/73913-manual-valve-vacuum-shift-conversion.html __________________ '88 FJ62 W/ 240K miles, desmogged, stock SUA W/ full length Add-A-Leafs, Tuffy console, TaskLED domelight, Mallory ignition, four wheel discs, Aussie sliding windows Monniepoo: - Did she smoke with her pussy? Last edited by Spook50; 08-20-06 at 01:04 AM.

08-20-06, 12:42 AM	#5
Moody IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC, UT TLCA# 15879 Posts: 527	The tiny url isn't working...I am really up for anything __________________ 1988 FJ-62 (Sold ) 1997 LX 450, big time beater...with some off road junk bolted on

08-20-06, 09:26 AM	#6
Moody IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC, UT TLCA# 15879 Posts: 527	Thanks for the info. Overhanger, I am interested to find out what you used... __________________ 1988 FJ-62 (Sold ) 1997 LX 450, big time beater...with some off road junk bolted on

08-22-06, 04:10 PM	#7
Moody IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC, UT TLCA# 15879 Posts: 527	mas __________________ 1988 FJ-62 (Sold ) 1997 LX 450, big time beater...with some off road junk bolted on

08-22-06, 04:49 PM	#8
erfworm IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 291	Junkyard source a late 80's toyota 4wd van, uses the same type of set up. Although they are larger than the stock ones (won't fit in bracket) their electrical connetions are the same so no messing with wiring.

08-22-06, 09:38 PM	#10
Moody IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC, UT TLCA# 15879 Posts: 527	Thanks a bunch Steve... __________________ 1988 FJ-62 (Sold ) 1997 LX 450, big time beater...with some off road junk bolted on

08-23-06, 08:13 PM	#11
Moody IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC, UT TLCA# 15879 Posts: 527	Ordered the parts up today. Overhanger- do you have a pic of the final product? Maybe I could take a few pics for the FAQ section??? __________________ 1988 FJ-62 (Sold ) 1997 LX 450, big time beater...with some off road junk bolted on

08-24-06, 12:28 PM	#13
euclid IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jackson, MS TLCA# 13014 Posts: 2,987	Thanks Steve for the input. Added to FAQ. __________________ Greg Thompson CottonLand Cruisers 00 Camry: Stock 5SFE - 27 MPG 89 FJ62: OME 2.5, 2" BL, Superior shackles, F250 towers, 315 BFG KM2's on zj80 wheels, Extreme A440, FF,4:88,RDB,longs,ARB front,Lockright rear,Warn XD9K in Rover AL bumper, Kaymar, Wildernes Roofrack, Marlin Sliders, SROR 1/4 sliders.

08-24-06, 01:08 PM	#14
BillWms01 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Mississippi Posts: 81	Excuse my 62 ignorance, but is this solenoid usually the cause for the 4WD to not engage? My son & I got a neglected 62 last week and discovered the transfer case won't disengage. __________________ BillWms01 '08 FJ Cruiser '04 uzj100 '00 uzj100 ''88 FJ62

08-24-06, 03:28 PM	#15
overhanger IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 TLCA# 10222 Posts: 659	There are two solenoids used in the FJ62 T/case shifting system - one to engage and one to disengage. The disengage is on whenever you are in 2WD so it is the one that gives up the ghost first. Swap the vacuum hoses between the two solenoids for the time being to get back to 2WD. You'll have to push the 4WD button to disengage the front drive when the hoses are reversed. __________________ Steve Crase TLCA 10222 1988 FJ62 - Bart 1997 FZJ80 40th Anniversary #3727 - Sandy

08-24-06, 06:04 PM	#16
overhanger IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 TLCA# 10222 Posts: 659	Pics Here ya go. I don't understand why some have a problem with "messing with the wiring harness" when all you have to do is crimp on two new spade lugs. For around $20, to have a Toyota part doing what it is designed to do is worth it. Mac valves? Who needs them is my thinking. Attached Images __________________ Steve Crase TLCA 10222 1988 FJ62 - Bart 1997 FZJ80 40th Anniversary #3727 - Sandy

08-24-06, 06:46 PM	#17
euclid IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jackson, MS TLCA# 13014 Posts: 2,987	bravo. Done and done. __________________ Greg Thompson CottonLand Cruisers 00 Camry: Stock 5SFE - 27 MPG 89 FJ62: OME 2.5, 2" BL, Superior shackles, F250 towers, 315 BFG KM2's on zj80 wheels, Extreme A440, FF,4:88,RDB,longs,ARB front,Lockright rear,Warn XD9K in Rover AL bumper, Kaymar, Wildernes Roofrack, Marlin Sliders, SROR 1/4 sliders.

08-24-06, 08:17 PM	#18
agent orange IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Richmond, VA TLCA# 16545 Posts: 2,069	The reason i went with the MAC valves is that its barely any more expensive (cost me $35 for 2 valves, fittings, and mufflers) and i was hoping to find an alternative that would last longer than the yota valves. If the toyota valves were all that great there wouldnt be umpteen threads about replacing them on this board. __________________ 1988 FJ 62- SUA, 1" body, 34" trxus mudders, 2.5" exhaust, 27spl Longs/Pig Inners, 4.88s, torsen LSD/lockright, 4runner brakes, other random stuff... 1986 pickup- 2wd, 22r, 4 speed, DD oh, and custom tree damage

08-24-06, 09:30 PM	#20
overhanger IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 TLCA# 10222 Posts: 659	I look forward to hearing back from you in 18 years or so how your Mac valves are holding up. In the meantime, a stock Toyota part that uses stock bracketry, hoses and requires minimum wiring rework that costs less than $20 and can be purchased at every Toyota dealers on the planet, is my choice of fix. The first one lasted 18 years or about $1 per year. I wish it lasted forever but hey.... QUOTE=agent orange]The reason i went with the MAC valves is that its barely any more expensive (cost me $35 for 2 valves, fittings, and mufflers) and i was hoping to find an alternative that would last longer than the yota valves. If the toyota valves were all that great there wouldnt be umpteen threads about replacing them on this board.[/quote] __________________ Steve Crase TLCA 10222 1988 FJ62 - Bart 1997 FZJ80 40th Anniversary #3727 - Sandy

08-24-06, 10:02 PM	#21
Moody IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC, UT TLCA# 15879 Posts: 527	Killer. Thanks a bunch. Looks pretty straightforward. I think my local dealer told me 430 for the new solenoids. I should have them tomorrow, and I will put them in Sat. AM and let you know how it turns out. __________________ 1988 FJ-62 (Sold ) 1997 LX 450, big time beater...with some off road junk bolted on

08-24-06, 10:44 PM	#22
RredFJ40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Klamath Basin TLCA# 14992 Posts: 1,111	ridiculous how the virtually identical part can have such a discrepancy in price all because it says "Land Cruiser" I say we sack and pillage American Toyota and take CDan as a ransom hostage! __________________ Joel ----- Parting an FJ62 - PM me "Birds have nests, foxes have dens but the hope of the whole world lay on the shoulders of a homeless man." - R. Mullins 82 FJ60 - normal stuff 68 FJ40 - gone 88 FJ62 - gone Jefferson State Cruisers

08-27-06, 02:07 PM	#23
Moody IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC, UT TLCA# 15879 Posts: 527	Didn't get them in at the dealer...Should have them tomorrow night. I will post up pics. One question: Should I do both? I ordered two, but I have a feeling it is only the lower one??? __________________ 1988 FJ-62 (Sold ) 1997 LX 450, big time beater...with some off road junk bolted on

08-27-06, 08:34 PM	#24
hightide IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: deep south TX Posts: 384	Originally Posted by overhanger from a 90-1 Celica for the AC idle up, list price is $17.60 part # is 88690 2B340 Is it the same part number for both valves? I dont know wich one is the "bad" one so might as well replace both. __________________ 89 fj62, long AAL in all corners 2 in shackles rear and 1.5 in front 33 12.50 15 BFG AT "I am not cool. I am cools inspiration!" Rev. RUN

09-01-06, 06:52 AM	#25
Moody IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC, UT TLCA# 15879 Posts: 527	I am actually going to do this tonight after work. I will post up pics of the final product. Boy, 430 for new parts, or 20 bucks for the other Toy part, which does the same thing...wow. __________________ 1988 FJ-62 (Sold ) 1997 LX 450, big time beater...with some off road junk bolted on

09-01-06, 05:46 PM	#26
Moody IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC, UT TLCA# 15879 Posts: 527	Done. Almost pissed me off it was so easy. 430 for the dealer assembly, 22 for the other part. Crazily rediculous. Overhanger, you are my hero. __________________ 1988 FJ-62 (Sold ) 1997 LX 450, big time beater...with some off road junk bolted on

09-04-06, 09:06 AM	#27
hightide IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: deep south TX Posts: 384	Did you replace both valves with the same part number? __________________ 89 fj62, long AAL in all corners 2 in shackles rear and 1.5 in front 33 12.50 15 BFG AT "I am not cool. I am cools inspiration!" Rev. RUN

09-04-06, 03:01 PM	#29
Moody IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC, UT TLCA# 15879 Posts: 527	I only replaced the bottom one. I ordered 2, but they only ordered 1 for some reason. Works like a charm. I will