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FJ-62 T-case actuator solenoids
I was always able to disengage my 4wd with a little pop of the vacumn lines. It will not do so now. Anyone ever replaced theirs...??? Is there a cheaper alternative than dealer? Thanks.
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Do a search for mac valves, thats the option i went with. It gets away from the failure prone toyota solenoids all together.
Others have found junkyard parts that interchange, i think the a/c idle up solenoid from some cars works, again search and ye shall find.
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http://tinyurl.com/r3yz2
It works. Fits stock bracket. Snip stock connector, crimp on two female spade lugs and be done with it.
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I went with probably the most reliable option you can go (same principle as the Mac Valves method, but I took it two steps further and made it look factory), but it's quite a bit of work, and my lazy ass STILL hasn't gotten the rest of the pics I need to finish the writeup I was going to post several months ago
I posted a thread about it a while back with a couple pics of the finished product, and one day here I'll get the damn writeup finished.
Ironic I did that much work and now I'm planning to install an FJ60 tcase so I can have fully mechanical shifting
Edit: Here's a thread with a bit of info on what I did and what I used. I'll try to get that writeup done and posted ASAP.
http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/73913-manual-valve-vacuum-shift-conversion.html
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08-20-06, 12:42 AM
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The tiny url isn't working...I am really up for anything
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08-20-06, 09:26 AM
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Thanks for the info. Overhanger, I am interested to find out what you used...
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08-22-06, 04:10 PM
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Junkyard source a late 80's toyota 4wd van, uses the same type of set up. Although they are larger than the stock ones (won't fit in bracket) their electrical connetions are the same so no messing with wiring.
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from a 90-1 Celica for the AC idle up, list price is $17.60 part # is 88690
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08-22-06, 09:38 PM
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Thanks a bunch Steve...
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08-23-06, 08:13 PM
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Ordered the parts up today. Overhanger- do you have a pic of the final product? Maybe I could take a few pics for the FAQ section???
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I'll take one or two this afternoon and post them up. It's so easy to do the install it hurts.
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Ordered the parts up today. Overhanger- do you have a pic of the final product? Maybe I could take a few pics for the FAQ section???
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Thanks Steve for the input.
Added to FAQ.
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Excuse my 62 ignorance, but is this solenoid usually the cause for the 4WD to not engage? My son & I got a neglected 62 last week and discovered the transfer case won't disengage.
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There are two solenoids used in the FJ62 T/case shifting system - one to engage and one to disengage. The disengage is on whenever you are in 2WD so it is the one that gives up the ghost first. Swap the vacuum hoses between the two solenoids for the time being to get back to 2WD. You'll have to push the 4WD button to disengage the front drive when the hoses are reversed.
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Here ya go. I don't understand why some have a problem with "messing with the wiring harness" when all you have to do is crimp on two new spade lugs. For around $20, to have a Toyota part doing what it is designed to do is worth it. Mac valves? Who needs them is my thinking.
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bravo. Done and done.
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The reason i went with the MAC valves is that its barely any more expensive (cost me $35 for 2 valves, fittings, and mufflers) and i was hoping to find an alternative that would last longer than the yota valves. If the toyota valves were all that great there wouldnt be umpteen threads about replacing them on this board.
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Ditto this. Big price difference from what my dealer wanted for the stock part ($412!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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from a 90-1 Celica for the AC idle up, list price is $17.60 part # is 88690
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I look forward to hearing back from you in 18 years or so how your Mac valves are holding up. In the meantime, a stock Toyota part that uses stock bracketry, hoses and requires minimum wiring rework that costs less than $20 and can be purchased at every Toyota dealers on the planet, is my choice of fix. The first one lasted 18 years or about $1 per year. I wish it lasted forever but hey....
QUOTE=agent orange]The reason i went with the MAC valves is that its barely any more expensive (cost me $35 for 2 valves, fittings, and mufflers) and i was hoping to find an alternative that would last longer than the yota valves. If the toyota valves were all that great there wouldnt be umpteen threads about replacing them on this board.[/QUOTE]
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Killer. Thanks a bunch. Looks pretty straightforward. I think my local dealer told me 430 for the new solenoids. I should have them tomorrow, and I will put them in Sat. AM and let you know how it turns out.
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ridiculous how the virtually identical part can have such a discrepancy in price all because it says "Land Cruiser" I say we sack and pillage American Toyota and take CDan as a ransom hostage!
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Didn't get them in at the dealer...Should have them tomorrow night. I will post up pics. One question: Should I do both? I ordered two, but I have a feeling it is only the lower one???
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Originally Posted by overhanger
from a 90-1 Celica for the AC idle up, list price is $17.60 part # is 88690
2B340
Is it the same part number for both valves? I dont know wich one is the "bad" one so might as well replace both.
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I am actually going to do this tonight after work. I will post up pics of the final product. Boy, 430 for new parts, or 20 bucks for the other Toy part, which does the same thing...wow.
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Done. Almost pissed me off it was so easy. 430 for the dealer assembly, 22 for the other part. Crazily rediculous. Overhanger, you are my hero.
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Did you replace both valves with the same part number?
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I "think" so. The lower one on the firewall is the disengage solenoid and the one that goes bad since it is almost always on. Start with that one - I'd bet the upper one is just fine and will be for as long as you have the Cruiser.
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from a 90-1 Celica for the AC idle up, list price is $17.60 part # is 88690
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Is it the same part number for both valves? I dont know wich one is the "bad" one so might as well replace both.
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I only replaced the bottom one. I ordered 2, but they only ordered 1 for some reason. Works like a charm. I will be ordering another in the next little bit here as a backup...
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called dealer with part number. they told me part was discontinued. bummer!!
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