Got a LC stamped fiberglass bezel!

wantatlc · 05-19-06, 10:58 AM

So, I decided after all my research and efforts, the affordable, obtainable fiberglass bezel was the best route for me to go if I really wanted a stamped bezel on my FJ.

So, with the help of Tim over at Landcruiser Specialties, I ordered this bezel. The price was great and shipping fast and he was super helpful on the phone answering my questions about 'glass bezels.

here is 'the' coveted stamp

here is the front

here is the back

here is a closer view of the 'glass

since there is not much written on these forums about fiberglass bezels, I will take this thread to document the process of prepping, priming, painting, modding and mounting as they are not ready to mount as is as you see it here right out of the box.

though I like the chrome look on my current bezel as it matches some of the other chrome pieces, I think I will end up doing this one in matt black as I like it over glossy (since I cannot likely pull off a chrome look on 'glass). I will not likely paint the stamped LAND CRUISER a different color as I want it to be kind of subliminal.

FJ40 MNTCRZR · 05-19-06, 11:12 AM

Nice, How Much ????

Franky40 · 05-19-06, 11:17 AM

The finish looks a little rough in the pictures. Do you think it will take much prep work to have it ready to paint?

wantatlc · 05-19-06, 11:18 AM

MTNCRZR -

follow the link to the bezel above for most current pricing and such, but the current price at time of this post was $109 + ship and Tim waives the $10 box fee for us Mudders!

So in the end, you are looking at approx. 3-4 times less than an original, assuming you can find on. As as someone else said, I am not doing a restore so did not NEED an original, but I was partial to a metal one as I wanted it chrome like my current bezel. but, just wasn't going to happen.

wantatlc · 05-19-06, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Franky40

The finish looks a little rough in the pictures. Do you think it will take much prep work to have it ready to paint?

not really. My pictures suck as I am not photo pro and work with a decent digital, but it may seem rougher in the photos than it is. I was actually surpirised about how clean it was. (naturally, I wil not do anything to the back side unless I need to sand it down to get it to fit flush correctly).

it comes with some kind of white type primer. This will need to be scuffed up for true primer I was advised to use prior to my paint of choice. But, before that there are a few imperfection high spots that need simple 400 grit sandpaper to even out. nothing major at all.

the holes do not come drilled, so you need to drill, sand those for mounting. those areas for the holes are the roughest part of the mold for sure, so that is about as bad as it is if you can see them in the photos.

I think the toughest part will be to get the paint right from a rattle can - which is what I will use.

FJ40 MNTCRZR · 05-19-06, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wantatlc

MTNCRZR -

follow the link to the bezel above for most current pricing and such, but the current price at time of this post was $109 + ship and Tim waives the $10 box fee for us Mudders!

So in the end, you are looking at approx. 3-4 times less than an original, assuming you can find on. As as someone else said, I am not doing a restore so did not NEED an original, but I was partial to a metal one as I wanted it chrome like my current bezel. but, just wasn't going to happen.

Thanks, i think its pretty cool ...

wantatlc · 05-19-06, 04:55 PM

so I just spent about 45 minutes prepping the bezel. I sanded it down using 400 grit paper. took out some high spots from the mold and buffed it all out for the primer. 45 minutes seems plenty enough to prep the bezel.

next, I took about 30 minutes drilling holes and laying up for mock-up. I used a dremmel tool on the highest RPM's to drill a starter hole and then used a reaming bit to expand out each hole 1 at a time to get to the right size... lay it up... drill and ream the next. then, sanded and reprepped around the holes.

BUT, I did notice 1 thing that caught me off guard with this bezel. when I laid it up to mock-up, I noticed it did not cover as much space. in the end I measured and the old stock bezel is 10.25"x39.25" and this one is 9.75"x39". .5" in difference on tall side. not sure why as it is made from a mold, so I will call Tim to check on that issue. It still covers everything, but still....

photos to come...

wantatlc · 05-19-06, 05:07 PM

prepping

size difference

mock-up on rig

prime/paint is next.....

wesintl · 05-19-06, 10:01 PM

Does anyone have a close up of the red paint in the stamped sectionof a very stock bezel? I'm painting mine and I want to get it as close to stock as I can.. I need to see how far the red goes up on the side of the letters. Thanks!

AZkick-n40 · 05-20-06, 10:39 AM

Congrats! I know that you have been looking for one for quite some time.

Overall, are you pleased with the delivered product?

Looking forward to seeing the finished product!

Brian

wantatlc · 05-22-06, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesintl

Does anyone have a close up of the red paint in the stamped sectionof a very stock bezel? I'm painting mine and I want to get it as close to stock as I can.. I need to see how far the red goes up on the side of the letters. Thanks!

I bet Steve is the only person you might get a photo of that from since he has a black bezel with red lettering. did you PM him? if you get one, post it up. I am curious also.

wantatlc · 05-22-06, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZkick-n40

Congrats! I know that you have been looking for one for quite some time.

Overall, are you pleased with the delivered product?

Looking forward to seeing the finished product!

Brian

final

I so suck at painting, I had to do it 2x as my first coat ran a bit. In the end, turned out pretty nice I would say. I used a flat matt black rattle can enamel.

All in all, I am happy with the product, quality, price, etc. My only issue is that wierd size descrepency... not bad, but it needs to be larger and taller mold made to make a bezel that covers more as the original does. I would reccomend it, just be aware of that. it is actually stronger and more firm and stout than I expected. nicer as well as I expected it to be much more raw than it was.

pbgbottle · 05-22-06, 09:51 AM

looks great ! my bezel came up a bit on the short side also . kinda was a bummer at first ,but i'm used to it now .. did yours just fit or is there a bit of a space on the top and bottom ? i still love this stamped bezel though . i got mine used ,i may be able to mess with it a bit for fitment . but i got lazy

wantatlc · 05-22-06, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbgbottle

looks great ! my bezel came up a bit on the short side also . kinda was a bummer at first ,but i'm used to it now .. did yours just fit or is there a bit of a space on the top and bottom ? i still love this stamped bezel though . i got mine used ,i may be able to mess with it a bit for fitment . but i got lazy

we have a similar setup - I also have the stone guards. in the end, I would say it "just fit". yours looks to have a bit more space than mine, but not by much. I ended up elongating the holes on the vertical plane so I could pull up the bezel as much as possible to cover the possible gap on the top as that is seen more than any gap on the bottom. my picture does show it as well as yours.

where did you get yours from?

what is that paint? looks like metal? dig that look.

pbgbottle · 05-22-06, 11:08 AM

found it on ebay . i just sprayed it with gloss black rust paint . thats what i had on the shelf at the time .

wantatlc · 05-22-06, 11:56 AM

would be cool, useful if others posted up their fiberglass bezel photos here.

show variations in paint and such.

65swb45 · 05-23-06, 11:21 AM

Pic of my 'glass bezel here:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...90#post1083190

Also bought off of Ebay, from Tim!

Mine has a fair amount of variation in thickness, and distance from the bib. Really hasn't changed shape much in the two years it's been on tho.

Rusty Shackleford · 05-23-06, 02:19 PM

Flip that bezel 360 degrees...

PScottBx · 05-24-06, 09:44 PM

It looks good.. Nice job. I'm just glad you mounted it thick side up

Enjoy

Scott

Poser · 05-24-06, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesintl

Does anyone have a close up of the red paint in the stamped sectionof a very stock bezel? I'm painting mine and I want to get it as close to stock as I can.. I need to see how far the red goes up on the side of the letters. Thanks!

Original paint was on the flat section of the letter only....

wesintl · 05-24-06, 10:52 PM

Excellent, Thank you steve

wantatlc · 05-25-06, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poser

Original paint was on the flat section of the letter only....

Steve - would you have a close up photo of this.. maybe of just a few letters? How did you do it? By hand with a brush?

Junk · 02-08-07, 11:23 AM

Are the LCS bezels ones they made or ones they got from Gozzard?

05-19-06, 10:58 AM	#1
wantatlc IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SoCal - westsiiiide Posts: 1,441	Got a LC stamped fiberglass bezel! So, I decided after all my research and efforts, the affordable, obtainable fiberglass bezel was the best route for me to go if I really wanted a stamped bezel on my FJ. So, with the help of Tim over at Landcruiser Specialties, I ordered this bezel. The price was great and shipping fast and he was super helpful on the phone answering my questions about 'glass bezels. here is 'the' coveted stamp here is the front here is the back here is a closer view of the 'glass since there is not much written on these forums about fiberglass bezels, I will take this thread to document the process of prepping, priming, painting, modding and mounting as they are not ready to mount as is as you see it here right out of the box. though I like the chrome look on my current bezel as it matches some of the other chrome pieces, I think I will end up doing this one in matt black as I like it over glossy (since I cannot likely pull off a chrome look on 'glass). I will not likely paint the stamped LAND CRUISER a different color as I want it to be kind of subliminal. __________________ SoCal FJ - 1974 FJ40 \| Trail Photos \| Parts Wanted & 4Sale My FJ is better than your honor student SPECS: SBC 350 \| 4spd \| Front discs \| Saginaw \| 33's \| 3" lift SUA \| Rancho 9000's \| Detroit rear \| Dual gas tanks \| BeCool aux fan \| Sliders \| Onboard air \| Stamped Bezel

05-19-06, 11:12 AM	#2
FJ40 MNTCRZR IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cali TLCA# 16256 Posts: 537	Nice, How Much ???? __________________ " IF I HAD TO EXPLAIN,YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND " 2008 Sandstorm FJC FJ40 LEXUS HARLEY THE GOOD LIFE !

05-19-06, 11:17 AM	#3
Franky40 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 269	The finish looks a little rough in the pictures. Do you think it will take much prep work to have it ready to paint? __________________ 6/72 fj40 tlca#10212 Oh my god it's a monster!!! No,... it's just my Frank. http://www.flickr.com/photos/9460528@N02/

05-19-06, 11:18 AM	#4
wantatlc IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SoCal - westsiiiide Posts: 1,441	MTNCRZR - follow the link to the bezel above for most current pricing and such, but the current price at time of this post was $109 + ship and Tim waives the $10 box fee for us Mudders! So in the end, you are looking at approx. 3-4 times less than an original, assuming you can find on. As as someone else said, I am not doing a restore so did not NEED an original, but I was partial to a metal one as I wanted it chrome like my current bezel. but, just wasn't going to happen. __________________ SoCal FJ - 1974 FJ40 \| Trail Photos \| Parts Wanted & 4Sale My FJ is better than your honor student SPECS: SBC 350 \| 4spd \| Front discs \| Saginaw \| 33's \| 3" lift SUA \| Rancho 9000's \| Detroit rear \| Dual gas tanks \| BeCool aux fan \| Sliders \| Onboard air \| Stamped Bezel

05-19-06, 04:55 PM	#7
wantatlc IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SoCal - westsiiiide Posts: 1,441	so I just spent about 45 minutes prepping the bezel. I sanded it down using 400 grit paper. took out some high spots from the mold and buffed it all out for the primer. 45 minutes seems plenty enough to prep the bezel. next, I took about 30 minutes drilling holes and laying up for mock-up. I used a dremmel tool on the highest RPM's to drill a starter hole and then used a reaming bit to expand out each hole 1 at a time to get to the right size... lay it up... drill and ream the next. then, sanded and reprepped around the holes. BUT, I did notice 1 thing that caught me off guard with this bezel. when I laid it up to mock-up, I noticed it did not cover as much space. in the end I measured and the old stock bezel is 10.25"x39.25" and this one is 9.75"x39". .5" in difference on tall side. not sure why as it is made from a mold, so I will call Tim to check on that issue. It still covers everything, but still.... photos to come... __________________ SoCal FJ - 1974 FJ40 \| Trail Photos \| Parts Wanted & 4Sale My FJ is better than your honor student SPECS: SBC 350 \| 4spd \| Front discs \| Saginaw \| 33's \| 3" lift SUA \| Rancho 9000's \| Detroit rear \| Dual gas tanks \| BeCool aux fan \| Sliders \| Onboard air \| Stamped Bezel

05-19-06, 05:07 PM	#8
wantatlc IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SoCal - westsiiiide Posts: 1,441	some photos prepping size difference mock-up on rig prime/paint is next..... __________________ SoCal FJ - 1974 FJ40 \| Trail Photos \| Parts Wanted & 4Sale My FJ is better than your honor student SPECS: SBC 350 \| 4spd \| Front discs \| Saginaw \| 33's \| 3" lift SUA \| Rancho 9000's \| Detroit rear \| Dual gas tanks \| BeCool aux fan \| Sliders \| Onboard air \| Stamped Bezel

05-19-06, 10:01 PM	#9
wesintl IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver TLCA# 4180 Posts: 3,489	Does anyone have a close up of the red paint in the stamped sectionof a very stock bezel? I'm painting mine and I want to get it as close to stock as I can.. I need to see how far the red goes up on the side of the letters. Thanks! __________________ 1964 FJ40 \| 1966 M416 \| 1976 FJ40 \| 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power\| 1997 FZJ80 \| TDI commuter car Rising Sun; Former CLCC You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound

05-20-06, 10:39 AM	#10
AZkick-n40 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Flagstaff, AZ TLCA# 15760 Posts: 586	Congrats! I know that you have been looking for one for quite some time. Overall, are you pleased with the delivered product? Looking forward to seeing the finished product! Brian __________________ 1971 FJ40 - 4 wheel disc brakes, 4" skyjacker, 33x9.50x15 BFG's. 1978 FJ45 - stock. 1972 FJ55 - 4 wheel disc brakes, 2F 1973 FJ55 - donor to the '72.

05-22-06, 09:51 AM	#13
pbgbottle IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cloverdale B.C. Canada TLCA# 14678 Posts: 2,054	looks great ! my bezel came up a bit on the short side also . kinda was a bummer at first ,but i'm used to it now .. did yours just fit or is there a bit of a space on the top and bottom ? i still love this stamped bezel though . i got mine used ,i may be able to mess with it a bit for fitment . but i got lazy Attached Images __________________ Jake S. FJ40,small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,Warn 8274 ...ROTW:PBGBOTTLE .... ...Cardomain Pics ... EPC anybody

05-22-06, 11:08 AM	#15
pbgbottle IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cloverdale B.C. Canada TLCA# 14678 Posts: 2,054	found it on ebay . i just sprayed it with gloss black rust paint . thats what i had on the shelf at the time . __________________ Jake S. FJ40,small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,Warn 8274 ...ROTW:PBGBOTTLE .... ...Cardomain Pics ... EPC anybody

05-22-06, 11:56 AM	#16
wantatlc IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SoCal - westsiiiide Posts: 1,441	would be cool, useful if others posted up their fiberglass bezel photos here. show variations in paint and such. __________________ SoCal FJ - 1974 FJ40 \| Trail Photos \| Parts Wanted & 4Sale My FJ is better than your honor student SPECS: SBC 350 \| 4spd \| Front discs \| Saginaw \| 33's \| 3" lift SUA \| Rancho 9000's \| Detroit rear \| Dual gas tanks \| BeCool aux fan \| Sliders \| Onboard air \| Stamped Bezel

05-23-06, 11:21 AM	#17
65swb45 elder statesman Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: so cal, going 45 TLCA# 1086 Posts: 6,542	Pic of my 'glass bezel here: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...90#post1083190 Also bought off of Ebay, from Tim! Mine has a fair amount of variation in thickness, and distance from the bib. Really hasn't changed shape much in the two years it's been on tho. __________________ A carbureted man in a fuel injected world. 65SWB45, 64LWB45, 68FJ40,72V840, 76HJ45[going],84FJ60[gone], 76K5, 73Sub454, 89Sub7.4[gone], 97Sub5.7 TLCA delegate, Trail Crew-LAC TLCA, The White Trash of the Elwood Chapter my website: http://www.marksoffroad.net

05-23-06, 02:19 PM	#18
Rusty Shackleford IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Arlen, Texas TLCA# 15220 Posts: 124	Flip that bezel 360 degrees... __________________ "Yep"

05-24-06, 09:44 PM	#19
PScottBx IH8Mud4Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: LA...the muddy LA...no movie stars here TLCA# 16251 Posts: 3,956	It looks good.. Nice job. I'm just glad you mounted it thick side up Enjoy Scott __________________ 1982 FJ45 Troop Carrier "Matilda" - - 1996 LX450 "80 in drag" *Bayou State Land Cruiser Association* - www.BSLCA.com - Good friends, a few cruisers, alot of laughs and a bunch of wives making this face --> "If I'm off (which is rare)... I'm in!"

05-24-06, 10:52 PM	#21
wesintl IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver TLCA# 4180 Posts: 3,489	Excellent, Thank you steve __________________ 1964 FJ40 \| 1966 M416 \| 1976 FJ40 \| 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power\| 1997 FZJ80 \| TDI commuter car Rising Sun; Former CLCC You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound

02-08-07, 11:23 AM	#23
Junk IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: buggerville nj Posts: 5,890 Blog Entries: 1	Are the LCS bezels ones they made or ones they got from Gozzard?