Ultimate SUA Suspension??

65swb45 · 05-17-06, 10:51 PM

I just picked up a used set of Ross's U-Bolt plates last week, but I'm more than likely gonna hang onto them for the 45. Should have thought of that before I sold off the old kit.

The design is a simple upside down tophat shape that wraps around the spring pack, bringing the u-bolt nuts alongside the leafs. Ross' parts look like they could have been made a little beefier, but I never had one fail on me for the years that I ran them on the 40.

The Astro stuff that showed up on Pirate looked promising, but I didn't follow up on it so I can't really comment on that.

And as far as flex goes, I've got the same problem as treeroot:

niblik · 05-17-06, 11:59 PM

if ya lookin for flex, especially at the rear, check this site out...

http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/shackles.htm

these things are gonna be on my 40 when completed...

front and back (only with 60# steering on the front though).. they'll give ya extra droop..

killer...

brisveganbj42 · 05-18-06, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bretty

is your cruiser remote controled. every pic theres nobody in the drivers seat................... loooks good

HAH! not quite.. dont forget we have RHD's over here. its hard to take pics of your vehicle if your the only one with the camera, you often get everyone elses car but yours.

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Originally Posted by 4x4Poet

brisveganbj42, that's some detailed history! (the good Aussie type)

THanks 4x4Poet, i hope its been of some use to you and others. i learnt a lot from here so it was an opportunity to give something back to the ih8mud community.

for those interested here is a quick vid of my setup flexing a few ruts n stuff.

http://ironpaw.dopegoat.com/clips/ormeau_flexin.avi (8mb divx)
(you will need the divx codec from download.divx.com - download and install the free player bundle and your ready to go) with more trip vids available here http://ironpaw.dopegoat.com/clips/

2badfjs · 05-18-06, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by niblik

if ya lookin for flex, especially at the rear, check this site out...

http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/shackles.htm

these things are gonna be on my 40 when completed...

front and back (only with 60# steering on the front though).. they'll give ya extra droop..

killer...

ONLY $499. FOR A PAIR!!!!

why spend that kinda $$ on a shackle that will unload on inclines?

a good spring mod will get you where you want to be.

FJBen · 05-18-06, 09:27 AM

Alcan 4" springs, longer shackles...all I was running on my piggie...

not bad flex...better shackle angles would have helped. definitely reccomend them.

CruisinGA · 05-18-06, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 2badfjs

ONLY $499. FOR A PAIR!!!!

why spend that kinda $$ on a shackle that will unload on inclines?

a good spring mod will get you where you want to be.

I've handled them and driven a truck with them installed. (DD113's FJ62)

They are top notch, and not like any other "revolver"shackles out here.

That said, i still don't know if I would spend the money on them.

2badfjs · 05-18-06, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CruisinGA

I've handled them and driven a truck with them installed. (DD113's FJ62)

They are top notch, and not like any other "revolver"shackles out here.

That said, i still don't know if I would spend the money on them.

they looked like the revolvers, thats why i said that. (i'll recant my statement)

pricey fo sure!!!

slickrock · 05-18-06, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by treerootCO

I can't get any flex out of my SUA

it looked better in print

treerootCO · 05-18-06, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by slickrock

it looked better in print

where did you see that?

4x4Poet · 05-18-06, 10:09 PM

Superior's website info does not mention their shackles' behavior on inclines. I can't see how their not like Revolvers off road.

I do like the lock-out pins for on road travel stability, though I'd like to know if the shackles rattle around their pins while driving with them locked for road use.

77TLCFJ40 · 05-19-06, 10:32 PM

Bump

Anyone else want to chime in?

Please do!

65swb45 · 05-19-06, 10:58 PM

The ConFerr-type U bolt skidplates really aren't a bad way to go. They take a heap of abuse and rarely are the cause of getting hung up. Once you get used to using them for their intended purpose [and stop getting freaked out by the smack and grind] you'll be alright.

I might consider putting a set on my 45 instead of the Advance Handling ones, since the 45 isn't gonna do any 'Con-level wheelin anyways.

AND, I have an update on the MAF flip kit. Problems! Look for a post soon.

msahr · 05-20-06, 12:39 AM

I have a 4" M-A-F "Safari" lift on my 71 '40.

The front flexes GREAT, But I HATE the rear flex...

I started a thread a while back on this same subject...

Rear Spring Flex (or lack thereof) with SUA - pics

77TLCFJ40 · 05-24-06, 05:06 AM

Please read the original post again and give your first hand experience - with pictures if possible. Decisions need to be made soon.

Hoping for experience with the Man-A-Fre U-Bolt Flip Kit - Anyone?

If considering longer springs, how much longer for the front and for the rear for best shackle angle?

Thanks again

Almost forgot: Got my F-250 shock towers yesterday at the dealership for $28. All grade8 hardware was another $12. That part is checked off my list!

petescoffee · 05-24-06, 07:12 AM

Hoping for experience with the Man-A-Fre U-Bolt Flip Kit - Anyone?

I have the Man-A-fre U-bolt Flip Kit by 4-Plus and like it a a lot. Extremely Stout and well thought out. I see were Mark had some issues with it and will be curious to see what they are. My only real issue was no instructions on the install but I called them and was straightened out in a matter of minutes.

slickrock · 05-24-06, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by treerootCO

where did you see that?

TLC Mag months ago. The cruiser was on some hill. I noticed it b/c it has the same winch as I and I started to pay more attention to the picture here and noticed they were the same rig.

Ian Rogers · 05-24-06, 07:42 AM

i have the 4+ U bolt flip kit the front is great, but the rear is where you will run in to trouble, i have talked to mark as we both are having the same problem. I think that im going to let him chim in on this because he is a better with words then myself.

msahr · 05-24-06, 08:57 AM

I have the 4+ Flip Kit too... I like them. They are very stout

I think 5/8" thick material! I have had to re-torque the front ones twice... I think they are OK now (that's in a couple months of occasional driving and wheeling). Not sure of a problem with the rears, I ordered mine with the rear shock pin attached (I have a 71 and the shocks would have BARELY fit on the stock pins otherwise).

Cruiseralive · 05-24-06, 07:07 PM

I used the 4+ flip kit and liked it. I had the rear plates with the shock mounts which I did manage to bend and scrape a little. My SUA rear used a 4 inch lift 55 spring with a 3 inch longer than stock shackle all mounted in the stock hangers. The angle worked very well and the springs flexed great. The angle made the lift something less than 4 inches which became an issue matching the front ride height.

77TLCFJ40 · 05-24-06, 08:35 PM

Cruiseralive,

How much longer is a 55 4 inch lift spring than a 40 4 in lift spring? If I understand you right, the longer 55 springs are not holding their lift? I'm considering a longer rear spring, but I'm not sure how much longer it should be. Any ideas??