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IH8MUD Lifer
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question about co2 on your 40
looking for some info on setting up a co2 on board air system , i got ahold of a co2 bottle ,i just need the reg . was wondering what any of you have used for a reg ,and where did you mount your bottle ,i can get a beverage regulator for free , but i have read that they will freeze up , any info or links to a reasonably priced regulator would be great . thanks
__________________ Jake S. FJ40,small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,Warn 8274 ![]() ...ROTW:PBGBOTTLE.... ...Cardomain Pics ... EPC anybody
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 102
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regulator
As to the location for mounting, anywhere that it is safe and secure. I used a co2 regulator that I got at a welding shop and have no problems freezing up. Great system. Good luck, Bill
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Tougher'n a $2 steak
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Yeah, good question, and how small of a cylinder would be considered big enough?
__________________ 1975 FJ40, it's like having a second job. 2000 UZJ100, what a truck! President: Fort Rucker Wheelers Ih8mud Veterans
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IH8MUD Lifer
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I have a cheap regulator, It gets cold but hasnt froze yet, Then again I havent aired up more than 12 tires in one stint or run an air tool, 2 club snow runs and all is well, Im sure there are reasons for getting a good high flow reg. but I can live with what I have.
I still need to find a good mounting place, With the possablility of having kids in the back seat I need to find a better place than where it is now. Good luck __________________ Enjoy Brian Passey KE7TGH wasatchcruisers 71 FJ40 Stinky 94 FZJ80 Ryoku Ryu Cruiser ring's anyone Stuff I've done... My 40 work in progress |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,209
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I have a 20 pnd tank mounted to my rear rack, next to my jerry can and spare. I bought a regulator that I got from williamsballoon.com, cheap. Never had a problem with it. Unless you need the "super" fill valves that some vendors sell then just get a standard one with a quick release. I figured I could wait the additional 30 seconds to have my tire fill up. The tank also powers an air block in the engine compartment which I run my arb's off of from pneumatic switches. No electrical or solenoids to go bad, all mechanical and air driven.
On a side note, I have about 50 of these switches I need to get rid of. I bought them with a good friend when at one time we were going to be putting a company and kits together. Never materialized. That being said, if anyone wants a pair of switches, let me know. I will be doing the ROTW later this week and will include more info on the switches setup, cost, etc. __________________ Front disc brakes: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...+brake+dummies 1973 FJ40 - Finished! Vortec/NV4500/ARB's/SOA FJ40 ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...uppie%27s+fj40 1970 FJ55 - Restoration Project in the works /2F/AC/PS FJ55 Restoration Thread: http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/102079-guppies-fj55-build-thread.html Last edited by 1973Guppie; 02-20-06 at 10:33 PM. |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,209
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nother.....
__________________ Front disc brakes: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...+brake+dummies 1973 FJ40 - Finished! Vortec/NV4500/ARB's/SOA FJ40 ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...uppie%27s+fj40 1970 FJ55 - Restoration Project in the works /2F/AC/PS FJ55 Restoration Thread: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=102079 Last edited by 1973Guppie; 02-20-06 at 10:36 PM. |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,209
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and nother.......
__________________ Front disc brakes: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...+brake+dummies 1973 FJ40 - Finished! Vortec/NV4500/ARB's/SOA FJ40 ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...uppie%27s+fj40 1970 FJ55 - Restoration Project in the works /2F/AC/PS FJ55 Restoration Thread: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=102079 Last edited by 1973Guppie; 02-20-06 at 10:36 PM. |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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awsome that was what i was looking for how much for the reg at williams balloon supply which one did you buy 150 or 103
http://www.williamsballoons.com/html...n_dioxide.html __________________ Jake S. FJ40,small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,Warn 8274 ![]() ...ROTW:PBGBOTTLE.... ...Cardomain Pics ... EPC anybody
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IH8MUD Lifer
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these guys have one for $40 i've been searching all night or these guys
http://www.offroadair.net/products.html http://www.offroadtuff.com/CO2Regulators.htm will probably get one these , thanks for the reply's __________________ Jake S. FJ40,small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,Warn 8274 ![]() ...ROTW:PBGBOTTLE.... ...Cardomain Pics ... EPC anybody
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,209
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can't quite remember, I think mine pushes around 100 psi, don't run air tools so no problems, static pressure is different than rated pressure so make sure you ask about this when you buy it, if you care that much about the exact output, pressure will drop I think around 20 psi from the rated pressure. Not sure if I go this right, just ask the place about it. Only really a prob if you are running tools and want a specific top pressure, filling tires you are golden.
Noah __________________ Front disc brakes: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...+brake+dummies 1973 FJ40 - Finished! Vortec/NV4500/ARB's/SOA FJ40 ROTW: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...uppie%27s+fj40 1970 FJ55 - Restoration Project in the works /2F/AC/PS FJ55 Restoration Thread: http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=102079 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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mostly gonna be using it for filling tires another question ,how do i know which numbers are for the hydro date ?? theres numbers all over the place
__________________ Jake S. FJ40,small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,Warn 8274 ![]() ...ROTW:PBGBOTTLE.... ...Cardomain Pics ... EPC anybody
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IH8MUD Lifer
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If you are just using it to fill tires, you don't really need a regulator. Just use a lock on chuck and make sure it is on the tire stem before you crack the valve. Shut the valve off before you disconnect the chuck. It just takes a few seconds to air up a tire.
I carry a five pound bottle. I actually have two. They are small and easy to stow and carry around. By having two it is not a problem if a bottle goes empty on me as I am filling the tires. I just crack the second and refill the empty when I get back to town. The partial bottle goes in position one, and the now full one becoems the backup. It has been a long time since I was filling 35 inch tires, but IIRC I was getting 3 sets of 35x12.50s from 10 to 25+ psi out of a single five pound bottle. Or one set of 42x15s and one set of 35x12.50s with the same pressure numbers. Mark... |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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I got my reg from a fire extinguisher supply place in town. They also refill my 10# bottle for me for $12, when they charge me at all.
__________________ Flat Nasty with TAC 2008 event info. "Sit tall in the saddle, hold y'ur head up high. Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky... and live like you ain't affraid to die. Don't be scared, just enjoy y'ur ride." |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: White Mtns. AZ
Posts: 262
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So you need a 20# tank for 35s or bigger?
__________________ 1974 FJ40 SOA ON 37S TBI350/700R 4WDB OBA 99"WB 1998 Dodge CTD 12V 4x4 5sp (pulls my junk around) 2006 Dodge 24V CR (wife's dd) |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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i have a #20 bottle , i may want to use some air tools who knows so i thought i would try to get a reg , thanks for all the input people , but i also may have another problem the bottle i have may need to be hydro tested so my project is on hold , it is stamped luxfur 7 @ 98 20# CO2 TW23*8
DOT-3AL1800 what does a new hydro date stamp look like ?? whats a lock on chuck ??? __________________ Jake S. FJ40,small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,Warn 8274 ![]() ...ROTW:PBGBOTTLE.... ...Cardomain Pics ... EPC anybody
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lincoln, CA
Posts: 58
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Now I need some for my current project. Let me know ... Thanks! __________________ - Dave '72 FJ55, 350/TH350/205, SOA, Scout PS, 4-wheel discs, blah, blah. TLCA# 11799 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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another question about the coil hose
nylon or polyurethane nylon max working pressure 200 psi (black nylon) poly max 125 psi (blue poly) both -40 F to +180 F also which hose diameter 1/4 i.d. or 3/8 i.d. my local parts place has both just not sure which to get __________________ Jake S. FJ40,small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,Warn 8274 ![]() ...ROTW:PBGBOTTLE.... ...Cardomain Pics ... EPC anybody
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IH8MUD Lifer
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My buddy has a 20lb setup that he uses. He got the reg off ebay and it is adjustable for CO2 and hasnt frozen up yet, and he is generous at the end of the day in filling up others tires. He runs air tools too. It is a cool toy. We were messing around with it one day and with the right (meaning safe) mounting brakets, like Nuclearlemon, it will fit right onto the rear roll bar (stock) and fit in the rounded area of the tub with or without the hard top. It looked sweet too sitting right in the corner window. Where did you get your bottle? Just another .02 Rezarf <>< __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread. |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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i can AH! sorta get them through work pbgbottle PBG is short for pepsi bottling group .
__________________ Jake S. FJ40,small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,Warn 8274 ![]() ...ROTW:PBGBOTTLE.... ...Cardomain Pics ... EPC anybody
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: high desert, ca
Posts: 853
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I use a beverage regulator on my 5# tank. I'm not too sure about how well it could seat a bead and it won't run air tools (output of only 40psi), but it will fill up my little 33" tires 3 times around with some left over. If you are working for a bev company, snatch an aluminum tank next time one slips through. Hose shouldn't matter much unless you really need much more than 125 psi.
__________________ Clean your filthy Wok! 1969 fj55 1977 fj55 1981 Toy 4x4 Pickup 2007 Tacoma TeRD Nourishing Earth Body Care and Candle Company |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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???? Nope. As I mentioned above I can fill up to three sets of 35x12.5s from on 5 pound bottle. If you don't air down extremely and don't insist on maxing out the pressure listed on the sidewall, you might be able to get two sets of 42x15s out of a 5 pound bottle. For the past couple of years the areas where I have been doing my serious wheeling happen to have roadhouses located within 10 miles of the trailheads. So I usually just run down the shoulder of the highway to the rodhouse and fill up there instead. SO it has been a while since I had a completely fresh bottle that I ran empty airing up when we got back to the road. SO my memory may be fuzzy. I know that you can get at least as much as I mention above from a 5 pound bottle. You might get more. Mark... |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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A tire chuck with a trigger like lever sticking out at the head. You squeeze the lever to put the chuck on the valve stem and then release it. This locks the chuck on the stem until you squeeze the lever again to release it. Mark... |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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to add to this thread ,there also is ultimate air , i will be going with a reg from them , he's offering free shipping right now , and discount for MUD members
http://www.ultimate-air.com/ __________________ Jake S. FJ40,small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,Warn 8274 ![]() ...ROTW:PBGBOTTLE.... ...Cardomain Pics ... EPC anybody
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IH8MUD Lifer
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__________________ Jake S. FJ40,small block ,sm465 ,spring over ,cut-N-turn,shackle reversal, 38.5 superswampers, 4 wheel disc brakes, OBA=CO2 ,Warn 8274 ![]() ...ROTW:PBGBOTTLE.... ...Cardomain Pics ... EPC anybody
Last edited by pbgbottle; 06-30-07 at 04:39 PM. |
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What's broken now?
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I've been running a Co2 bottle for quite a while. My original mount had it in the back passenger corner right next to the tailgate. A mishap, at Tellico, had me going backward down "school-bus" and another rig m |