Nuts and Bolts

[1973Guppie]

you got it, sending one your way on the big brown truck...

[Coolerman]

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[1973Guppie]

so I ordered a boatload of bolts from mcmasster carr and let me say it is a VERY NICE thing to have an assortment of new bolts on hand. I was not concerned with JIS and the bolts are silver in color but plated for wear resistance. For a few items I will need to get the OEM bolts but overall I think this will save me mucho bucks in the long run. I basically used the reccomendations from this thread.

Noah

[igotta40]

I spent a few hundred $$ on fasteners. Looking at what I took off, and looking at what is on the truck now....it was worth it.

[WaAkFJ]

1973 Guppie

Are you keeping a list of nuts / bolts on your FJ55? I'd like to see how sizes compare. Plus I'll need a list of FJ55 bolts one day!

I will hopefully get the bolt list updated in a couple of weeks with new sizes for alot of the bolts for the body.

[cruiserloser123]

Guppie-------

Do you have a list of the ones you did end up ordering?

How much did it cost you?

Any pictures of what Mcmaster carr bolts look like

Thanks

[Coolerman]

I have some additions for your list.

Battery tray to battery pedestal mount

4 8mm x 1.25 x 20mm split washer

Battery pedestal to frame

4 8mm x 1.25 x 30mm split washer only

Under Seat Tool Box Jack Holder Mount

2 6mm x 1.0x 16mm split washer + flat

Trans Tunnel Bolts

16 6mm x 1.0 x 20mm split washer + flat

Soft Top Tub Rail Rear Bow Bracket

4 6mm x 1.0 x 20mm split washer + flat

Soft Top Wheel Well Bow Bracket

4 8mm 1.25 x 16mm Split washer + flat

Rear Lift Gate Hinge Bolts

6 8 mm x 1.25 x 20mm split washer +flat

Lift Gate Cross Member (ties hard top sides together)

4 8mm x 1.25 x 18mm split washer + flat (side bolts)
4 6mm x 1.0 x 16mm split washer + flat (top bolts)

Lift gate support anchors to hard top sides

4 6mm x 1.0 x 16mm phillips head split washer + flat

Fiberglass top to hard top side panels

24 6mm x 1.0 x 16mm

Hard Top side panels to Tub rail

12 6mm x 1.0 x 20mm

Fiberglass top door bows above front doors

8 6mm x 1.0 x 12mm phillips head split washer + flat

That's all for tonight!

[1973Guppie]

no pics, nothing fancy, they are just silver zinc plated, nice looking I think. I could not find the cadium plating so I went this route. They are not JIS heads either, but this was not important to me as much as others. I tend to do rebuilds nicely but not perfect restorations so not concerned about bolt details. I basically just took the reccomended bolt sizes from this thread and ordered a bunch of bolts, washers, lock washers, and nuts. I basically stuck to M6, M8 and M10. So far it has worked well for me. I don't plan to record every bolt size I use on the 55 rebuild as I am guessing that most of them should be similar sizes. I spent about $200 and got a boatload of hardware. Hope this helps.

Noah

[WaAkFJ]

Thanks coolerman.... I'll put those into the first part ! !

[Coolerman]

If you have that XLS spreadsheet started I would like to get a copy of it. I'm interested in seeing the totals for some of these bolts!

[PScottBx]

I'm really interested in anything you guys have as I'm about to start down the restoration path after the Gilmer, Tx gathering.

I'll be glad to contribute to the list when we're done and thanks for your work making this list

Scott

[thecrazygreek]

I have searched hi and low for the best deal on nuts and bolts, and believe I found the place.

http://www.allensfasteners.com/

Check it out...

Here's an example for 10 pieces. $2.80 TOTAL. And shipping is cheap... (one price for 10 or 500, so the more you buy the cheaper)

ALL STAINLESS
6mm- 1.00 X HEX HEAD (STAINLESS)
6mm-1.00 X 20 HEX CS (SS)
$0.17 x10= $1.70

METRIC STAINLESS LOCK WASHER
M6 (STAINLESS) LOCK WASHER
$0.06 x10= $0.60

METRIC STAINLESS FLAT WASHER
M6 (STAINLESS) FLAT WASHER
$0.05 x10= $0.50

[AlaskanHerbs]

WOW, great work.

id like a copy of the spread sheet if you dont mind.
alaskanherbs@yahoo.com
thanks,
herb

[Coolerman]

OK here is two list of bolts from the Allen Fastener place posted by thecrazygreek.

Stainless Vs Zinc. Bottom line: For the amount listed there is only $63.50 difference between them!

I have an email into them asking if these are JIS. I don't think they will be.

Bolts
Size x pitch x length $(SS) $(Zinc) Qty
6mm x 1.0 x 10mm .12 .07 50
6mm x 1.0 x 20mm .17 .11 100
6mm x 1.0 x 25mm .17 .12 50

8mm x 1.25 x 16mm .24 .31 50
8mm x 1.25 x 20mm .25 .35 100
8mm x 1.25 x 25mm .28 .36 150
8mm x 1.25 x 30mm .29 .37 50
8mm x 1.25 x 35mm .30 .48 100

Flat Washers
Size $(SS) $(Zinc) Qty

6mm .05 .02 200
8mm .08 .03 450
10mm .14 .05 75
12mm .22 .08 25

Lock Washers

Size $(SS) $(Zinc) Qty

6mm .06 .02 200
8mm .12 .03 450
10mm .18 .06 75
12mm .22 .07 25

Total for all Stainless = $302
Total for all Zinc = $238.50

Not bad for 2150 pieces! Great find there `thecrazygreek!

[thecrazygreek]

NOT GEEK!!! hehe...

I still havent found a better deal anywhere on the net. And to top it off, they are quick to ship, and quality seems to be top notch.

[mikealeus]

Just a question about Zinc vs. stainless. Is there a difference in the strength of the bolt due to the difference in alloy? Any metalurgists out there?

[Coolerman]

Originally Posted by thecrazygreek

NOT GEEK!!! hehe...

I still havent found a better deal anywhere on the net. And to top it off, they are quick to ship, and quality seems to be top notch.

pardon me! Guess I need to get better bi-focals? I have fixed the post!

I'm placing an order tomorrow. I'm tired of all the searching and don't think anyone will best that price soon.

[Coolerman]

Originally Posted by mikealeus

Just a question about Zinc vs. stainless. Is there a difference in the strength of the bolt due to the difference in alloy? Any metalurgists out there?

Yes there is, the zinc bolts are stronger and should be used where critical strength is an issue.

[lc69hunter]

I didn't see a listing for the bolts to hook the engine to the engine stand.

They are 12X1.75 80 - 100 mm, depending on the configuration of your stand.

Also, they should be hardened, not your standard off the shelf bolt.

[Coolerman]

Few more I got tonight:

Dimmer switch mount

(2) 6 x 1.0 x 12mm split +flat washer


Flasher Relay mounting bolts

(2) 6 x 1.0 x 16mm split +flat washer


Fuse Block mounting bolts

(2) 6 x 1.0 x 12mm split washer only

Gas Pedal mounting bolts

(2) 6 x 1.0 x 16mm split washer only

+12V Power Outlet mounting screws
(2) 4mm x .7 x 10mm phillips head screw w/internal toothed washer

[Coolerman]

Couple more from last nights work.

Passenger side Engine Lift Hook/ 2F Alternator bracket mounting bolts

(3) 10mm x 1.25 x 30mm split plus flat washers 14mm head if JIS but 17mm fits with no clearance problems

Carb Cable retainer on firewall

(2) 6mm x 1.0 x 20mm split washer only

[Coolerman]

Few more from yesterday.

Steering Column to dash mounting bolts

2 8mm X 1.25 X 30mm Captured flat washer

Glove Box Door GearShift Plate

4 3mm X 0.5mm X 8mm Split,Flat + 5.5mm nut

Glove Box to Dash Mounting Screw

3 5mm X 10mm Sheet metal screws Split, FLat

Glove Box Limit strap (wire) rope) Mounting

2 5mm X 0.8mm X 10mm split only + 8mm nut

Glove Box Knob

1 4mm X 0.7mm X 20mm Molded in stud Split, flat + 7mm nut

Brake Pedal Pivot Bolt

1 10mm X 1.25 X 80mm with 60mm shoulder. Bolt is .485 diameter 12mm head

Clutch Pedal Pivot Bolt

1 10mm X 1.25 X 80mm with 60mm shoulder. Bolt is .485 diameter 12mm head

Brake/Clutch Pedal Pivot Sleeve

1 0.510 outside diameter X 1.975 length Inside diameter= 0.397

Brake/Clutch Pedal Nylon Bearing

2 ea

Cowl Vent lift sleeve anchor screws

4 6mm X 1.0 X 12mm Split, Flat Phillips Head

Cowl Vent Door mount Nuts

2 4mm X 0.7mm X NA 7mm nut size

Radiator U Frame to cross member Nuts

2 8mm X 1.25mm X 25mm studs welded to bottom
2 nuts 14mm heads Split, flat

Fan Shroud to Radiator U Frame bolts

6 8mm X 1.25 X 20 mm Split, Flat captured

Radiator U Frame top Cross member bolts

2 8mm X 1.25mm X 20 mm Split, Flat

Small front shroud to Radiator U Frame screws

6 5mm X 0.8mm X 10mm Split Only Phillips screw

Bib Hinge Mounting Bolts

2 8mm X 1.25mm X 30mm Shoulder = 15mm Split, Flat. 12mm bolt head

That's all for now...

[PScottBx]

Thanks CM.. .all this much appreciated. I have to do some ordering soon so I need to go back to Melissa's excel file.

I think she mentioned a place (maybe on this thread..I'll have to check) that charged no shipping????!!!! If so.. wonder if there is a limit to weight... b/c I'm gonna give them one, very large, order.



Much appreciated.

Scott

[Coolerman]

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Come on folks lets finish this!

Remember we need ALL the information about the fastener! Use metric!

Year and model of truck
# used
thread diameter (3, 4, 5, 5.5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12mm)
thread pitch (0.5, 0.7, 1.0, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75mm)
total length of bolt (8-100mm)
length of shoulder (no thread area) if bolt has one
washers used (split,flat, internal toothed)
Head diameter (wrench size) if larger head will fit say so. That way one knows if a non JIS bolt will work
nut size (wrench size) if nut used

By the way the US is one of only 5 countries in the world that still use English measurments!

NASA recently stated that an international commitee has declared that any future mission or base on the MOON be metric.

Land Cruiser Moon Buggy?