pilot bearing removal...

74fj40 · 11-04-05, 01:57 PM

ok been trying all morning to get this damn bearing out. weve tried the "hydrolic" method, filling the cavity up with grease and sticcking a dowel in the whole and whackin it. it work, but it took the front of the bearing off the rest is still in the crank. treid using the wall anchor, it just broke off so now its stuck behind bearing. weve tried heating it up didnt work. what other options are there?

So PLEEAASSEE HELP!!!!

wesintl · 11-04-05, 02:03 PM

LOL.. Sorry to hear that. Maybe PM perry (bh4rnnr?) and see if he has a snap on pilot bearing remover he could stop by and pop it out in a min or two..

forgot it's a teacher workday

carfully cut out with dremel?

wesintl · 11-04-05, 02:22 PM

call around and see if checker or someone rents one.. could always buy a cheap one from napa etc.

mel lowe · 11-04-05, 02:57 PM

max,

trust me on this one.......

I tried for hrs using 2 different pullers w/o sucess (one was a SNAP ON)

here is how to get it out in 3 minutes using hydralic (sp) pressure:

1. get out your grease gun and hose

2. FILL cavity behind pilot bearing with grease

3. make tool from old bolt and electrical tape

4. place bolt into pilot bearing (must be sealed all the way around)

5. using hammer bang bolt one good time into old pilot

6. the grease will push out the bearing

you will get it out this way

mine came out 2nd try

THE key is having a bolt almost as big as the pilot bearing and a good seal with

the electrical tape. I wrapped more tape on the end to create a tapper.

good luck!!!!!

mel lowe · 11-04-05, 02:58 PM

if you need a pic of the tool lemme know

mel

camcruiser13 · 11-04-05, 03:01 PM

i thought he tried that method already/ get a dremel and cut the sucker

mel lowe · 11-04-05, 03:20 PM

oops only read title not content of post

sorry max

oldman · 11-04-05, 03:27 PM

I have had mixed success with teh hydraulic method. I finally said th ehell with it and bought a puller. They pop right out and there's no greasy mess!

74fj40 · 11-05-05, 03:48 PM

Pilot bearing.....

...DONE!!!!!

we finnaly just said screw it. and started drilling the hell out of it and took the dremel to it. and finally it came out. also got the new one installed

wesintl · 11-05-05, 03:51 PM

Glad you got that sucker out... They can be a PITA. Easier now than later on

Poser · 11-05-05, 07:09 PM

slide hammer with special ground attachment just for this...works great.

glad you got it.

Cruiserdrew · 11-05-05, 10:29 PM

I bought a pilot bearing puller from Harbor Freight. It's too big. If you carefully grind the business end to just fit inside the bearing, it pops it out with NO EFFORT. I'm about to mail my modified tool to Toadhopper to use in his H55 install.

CruisinGA · 11-05-05, 10:52 PM

Two ways have worked flawlessly for me-

What Poser said, and,

a carraige bolt ground to "hook" the bearing, and a large socket and apropriate nut.

Pin_Head · 11-06-05, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CruisinGA

Two ways have worked flawlessly for me-

What Poser said, and,

a carraige bolt ground to "hook" the bearing, and a large socket and apropriate nut.

The 39 cent carriage bolt puller gets most of them out before you can even start wiping all the grease off of your face.

A carbide burr in a pneumatic die grinder will cut through the race fast if it resists all other methods.

IDave · 11-06-05, 08:31 AM

So, how do the socket, nut and bolt combine to pull the bearing, exactly? A picture would be great!

Poser · 01-18-06, 07:19 PM

Dave-

Sorry no pic..

Insert modified puller bolt, pass socket larger than the OD of the bearing over the threaded section, if you need a washer put one on, and then the nut. Tighten the nut against the socket, and it will pull the bearing out.

I have not used this method, as I have a different tool for this, but it should work fine.

khaugland · 01-18-06, 07:32 PM

It's crazy, I thought I was the only one with this problem.

IDave · 01-18-06, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poser

Dave-

Sorry no pic..

Insert modified puller bolt, pass socket larger than the OD of the bearing over the threaded section, if you need a washer put one on, and then the nut. Tighten the nut against the socket, and it will pull the bearing out.

I have not used this method, as I have a different tool for this, but it should work fine.

I got it.

cruiserdoc · 03-24-06, 03:11 PM

when all else fails, put a rim of weld around the inside diameter of the bearing being careful not to weld the bearing in. the weld will make the bearing contract allowing one of the above methods to pull it out. do not do this if there is grease in the crank end unless you want super hot grease splatter in your face

mel lowe · 03-24-06, 08:29 PM

I wore gloves and made lil to no mess

No grease in the face only the cavity, which wiped clean

ranger · 03-24-06, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pin_Head

The 39 cent carriage bolt puller gets most of them out before you can even start wiping all the grease off of your face.

A carbide burr in a pneumatic die grinder will cut through the race fast if it resists all other methods.

This method has worked flawlessly many times over. The hydraulic method was hit and miss, and was usually another mess to clean up!

Ian Rogers · 03-24-06, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranger

This method has worked flawlessly many times over. The hydraulic method was hit and miss, and was usually another mess to clean up!

x2 pin head is the man with this one

wesintl · 07-02-06, 03:03 PM

I just like to say I used the carrige bolt method on a VERY pesky pilot bearing and it got it out. It took several passes to get it out but it did what a pilot bearing rental tool couldn't

Thanks again for the tip. now on to rebuilding my 3 speed tranny

SHREG · 12-02-06, 10:14 AM

I spent about 30 min this morning trying to get that blasted pilot bearing out. a quick search on mud saved me a ton of frustration...... .73 cents later and I had my Mud-Pilot bearing puller...

Mud search = FREE
Long bolt washer and nut.... .73
5 min removal of pesky pilot bearing....PRICELESS!

Thanks guys. Here is a pick of my puller

Pin_Head · 12-02-06, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHREG

I spent about 30 min this morning trying to get that blasted pilot bearing out. a quick search on mud saved me a ton of frustration...... .73 cents later and I had my Mud-Pilot bearing puller...

Mud search = FREE
Long bolt washer and nut.... .73
5 min removal of pesky pilot bearing....PRICELESS!

73 cents? You got ripped off. Mine was just 39 cents.

IDave · 12-02-06, 12:35 PM

Doncha love it? So sweet.

SHREG · 12-02-06, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pin_Head

73 cents? You got ripped off. Mine was just 39 cents.

Im gunna bring the bolt back for a refund!

Fuzzy Logic · 12-02-06, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHREG

Im gunna bring the bolt back for a refund!

Hey,SHREG! I think this one has more of a bite

Blue77FJ40 · 12-02-06, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pin_Head

The 39 cent carriage bolt puller gets most of them out before you can even start wiping all the grease off of your face.

A carbide burr in a pneumatic die grinder will cut through the race fast if it resists all other methods.

This was what I was gonna suggest. I have the OTC puller, so no worries, but for those that don't, this or the slap hammer as Poser mentions with similar end works fine. The slap hammer and same edge also work wonders on my hardtop rain gutter when a tree pushes it in. A few light taps and the gutter is good as new (well almost).

Forget the grease method. I've never seen that work. Every time I've done that or seen it tried, all it did was blow out the bearing cover, and splat grease on my glasses.

11-04-05, 01:57 PM	#1
74fj40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Highlands Ranch, Colorado Posts: 2,065	pilot bearing removal... ok been trying all morning to get this damn bearing out. weve tried the "hydrolic" method, filling the cavity up with grease and sticcking a dowel in the whole and whackin it. it work, but it took the front of the bearing off the rest is still in the crank. treid using the wall anchor, it just broke off so now its stuck behind bearing. weve tried heating it up didnt work. what other options are there? So PLEEAASSEE HELP!!!! __________________ Max Parkinson 72' FJ40-4" lift, FJ60 axles, FJ60 4speed with split case, 35's, detroit locker, 96"WB, saginaw with GM tilt column. badass.

11-04-05, 02:03 PM	#2
wesintl IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver TLCA# 4180 Posts: 3,586	LOL.. Sorry to hear that. Maybe PM perry (bh4rnnr?) and see if he has a snap on pilot bearing remover he could stop by and pop it out in a min or two.. forgot it's a teacher workday carfully cut out with dremel? __________________ 1964 FJ40 \| 1966 M416 \| 1976 FJ40 \| 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power\| 1997 FZJ80 \| TDI commuter car Rising Sun; Former CLCC You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound Real Change is here --> Cato Institute

11-04-05, 02:22 PM	#3
wesintl IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver TLCA# 4180 Posts: 3,586	call around and see if checker or someone rents one.. could always buy a cheap one from napa etc. __________________ 1964 FJ40 \| 1966 M416 \| 1976 FJ40 \| 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power\| 1997 FZJ80 \| TDI commuter car Rising Sun; Former CLCC You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound Real Change is here --> Cato Institute

11-04-05, 02:57 PM	#4
mel lowe IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 1,674	pilot removal max, trust me on this one....... I tried for hrs using 2 different pullers w/o sucess (one was a SNAP ON) here is how to get it out in 3 minutes using hydralic (sp) pressure: 1. get out your grease gun and hose 2. FILL cavity behind pilot bearing with grease 3. make tool from old bolt and electrical tape 4. place bolt into pilot bearing (must be sealed all the way around) 5. using hammer bang bolt one good time into old pilot 6. the grease will push out the bearing you will get it out this way mine came out 2nd try THE key is having a bolt almost as big as the pilot bearing and a good seal with the electrical tape. I wrapped more tape on the end to create a tapper. good luck!!!!! __________________ "if the asparagus is over 4 inches in height then you have to go for the broccoli spring over roll with oppressive shackle reversal" - PhilC64

11-04-05, 02:58 PM	#5
mel lowe IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 1,674	if you need a pic of the tool lemme know mel __________________ "if the asparagus is over 4 inches in height then you have to go for the broccoli spring over roll with oppressive shackle reversal" - PhilC64

11-04-05, 03:01 PM	#6
camcruiser13 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: in the garage after dark in UT Posts: 5,133	i thought he tried that method already/ get a dremel and cut the sucker __________________ cc ------------- 76' fj40 camcrusier13 build threads the following are links, just click, go on try it Traction Bar Sliders Ram Assist Bumper Poison Spider Style Shackle Reversal Half Doors if your doing it im sure ive done it, need help just ask.......

11-04-05, 03:20 PM	#7
mel lowe IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 1,674	oops only read title not content of post sorry max __________________ "if the asparagus is over 4 inches in height then you have to go for the broccoli spring over roll with oppressive shackle reversal" - PhilC64

11-04-05, 03:27 PM	#8
oldman IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: right here TLCA# 3156 Posts: 31	I have had mixed success with teh hydraulic method. I finally said th ehell with it and bought a puller. They pop right out and there's no greasy mess!

11-05-05, 03:48 PM	#9
74fj40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Highlands Ranch, Colorado Posts: 2,065	Pilot bearing..... ...DONE!!!!! we finnaly just said screw it. and started drilling the hell out of it and took the dremel to it. and finally it came out. also got the new one installed __________________ Max Parkinson 72' FJ40-4" lift, FJ60 axles, FJ60 4speed with split case, 35's, detroit locker, 96"WB, saginaw with GM tilt column. badass.

11-05-05, 03:51 PM	#10
wesintl IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver TLCA# 4180 Posts: 3,586	Glad you got that sucker out... They can be a PITA. Easier now than later on __________________ 1964 FJ40 \| 1966 M416 \| 1976 FJ40 \| 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power\| 1997 FZJ80 \| TDI commuter car Rising Sun; Former CLCC You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound Real Change is here --> Cato Institute

11-05-05, 07:09 PM	#11
Poser Oh...Durka Durka Durka. Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: in the shop TLCA# 1856 Posts: 14,278	slide hammer with special ground attachment just for this...works great. glad you got it.

11-05-05, 10:29 PM	#12
Cruiserdrew IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA TLCA# 11734 Posts: 7,241	I bought a pilot bearing puller from Harbor Freight. It's too big. If you carefully grind the business end to just fit inside the bearing, it pops it out with NO EFFORT. I'm about to mail my modified tool to Toadhopper to use in his H55 install. __________________ Andrew 1971 FJ-40 Rubicon tested, 2F powered, some mods 1976 FJ40 Rusting slowly in the back yard 1984 FJ-60 H55f, 4.11, Now SOA! 1989 FJ-62 117k-son's driver for now-low and slow 1997 FZJ-80 Driveway queen

11-05-05, 10:52 PM	#13
CruisinGA Ramblin Wreck Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Georgia Tech Posts: 5,437	Two ways have worked flawlessly for me- What Poser said, and, a carraige bolt ground to "hook" the bearing, and a large socket and apropriate nut. __________________ Bailey Quintrell '74 FJ40--37 Irocks-32 Bolt 'Locks-SM420-ARB-XD9000i-FJ60 PS-MetalTech Cage '93 FZJ80-DD-Part Time 4wd-locked-5" lifted-snorkel-bullbar-315 AT's '97 FZJ80 '98 UZJ100-OEM RR locker ΣΧ

11-06-05, 08:31 AM	#15
IDave IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: McCall, ID TLCA# 13705 Posts: 6,259	So, how do the socket, nut and bolt combine to pull the bearing, exactly? A picture would be great! __________________ 9/70 FJ40 +Rollbar 9/64 FJ45 (L) P-B with restored wiring 4/84 Toy 4x4 Mini PU "The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed: but, swol'n with wind, and the rank mist they draw, rot inwardly and foul contagion spread."--Milton

01-18-06, 07:19 PM	#16
Poser Oh...Durka Durka Durka. Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: in the shop TLCA# 1856 Posts: 14,278	Dave- Sorry no pic.. Insert modified puller bolt, pass socket larger than the OD of the bearing over the threaded section, if you need a washer put one on, and then the nut. Tighten the nut against the socket, and it will pull the bearing out. I have not used this method, as I have a different tool for this, but it should work fine.

01-18-06, 07:32 PM	#17
khaugland IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Missoula MT Posts: 31	It's crazy, I thought I was the only one with this problem.

03-24-06, 03:11 PM	#19
cruiserdoc IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tulsa OK Posts: 132	when all else fails, put a rim of weld around the inside diameter of the bearing being careful not to weld the bearing in. the weld will make the bearing contract allowing one of the above methods to pull it out. do not do this if there is grease in the crank end unless you want super hot grease splatter in your face

03-24-06, 08:29 PM	#20
mel lowe IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 1,674	I wore gloves and made lil to no mess No grease in the face only the cavity, which wiped clean __________________ "if the asparagus is over 4 inches in height then you have to go for the broccoli spring over roll with oppressive shackle reversal" - PhilC64

07-02-06, 03:03 PM	#23
wesintl IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Denver TLCA# 4180 Posts: 3,586	I just like to say I used the carrige bolt method on a VERY pesky pilot bearing and it got it out. It took several passes to get it out but it did what a pilot bearing rental tool couldn't Thanks again for the tip. now on to rebuilding my 3 speed tranny __________________ 1964 FJ40 \| 1966 M416 \| 1976 FJ40 \| 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power\| 1997 FZJ80 \| TDI commuter car Rising Sun; Former CLCC You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound Real Change is here --> Cato Institute

12-02-06, 10:14 AM	#24
SHREG IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 814	I spent about 30 min this morning trying to get that blasted pilot bearing out. a quick search on mud saved me a ton of frustration...... .73 cents later and I had my Mud-Pilot bearing puller... Mud search = FREE Long bolt washer and nut.... .73 5 min removal of pesky pilot bearing....PRICELESS! Thanks guys. Here is a pick of my puller __________________ Stuff ALL HALE THE F/2F 1994 FZJ80 Every Day GG 1965 FJ40 Stock, DQ Sunday fun truck 1984 FJ60 Cabin Cruzer 2005 XL Big Green Egg. www.biggreenegg.com

12-02-06, 12:35 PM	#26
IDave IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: McCall, ID TLCA# 13705 Posts: 6,259	Doncha love it? So sweet. __________________ 9/70 FJ40 +Rollbar 9/64 FJ45 (L) P-B with restored wiring 4/84 Toy 4x4 Mini PU "The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed: but, swol'n with wind, and the rank mist they draw, rot inwardly and foul contagion spread."--Milton

05-21-07, 07:37 PM	#30
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